Obama's plan supported by economists

[Juddog]

Examining the candidates.

I agree with the gist of the article. McCain's budget plans ends up putting the country in even more national debt, when we've already hit ten trillion dollars. When it comes to economy, Obama's plan simply makes more sense.

 

[bdude]

The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

 

[Eeezee]

:thumbsup: for getting the economists on Obama's side. And since the scientists are mostly voting his way as well, that gives us a majority of the experts telling us that Obama will run the nation better than McCain.

Edit: Aww there were 4x more Democrats than Republicans in the poll. Still, given that they're economists I'm going to trust them on this issue. I think it also reflects the fact that more PhDs and professionals are Democrat than Republican. I'm going to assume that they're unbiased when it comes to whose economic plan is better.

Full set of data from that article with comments is available here
http://www.economist.com/ecsurvey/

A good quote:
"A candidate?s economic expertise may matter rather less if he surrounds himself with clever advisers. Unfortunately for Mr McCain, 81% of all respondents reckon Mr Obama is more likely to do that; among unaffiliated respondents, 71% say so. That is despite praise across party lines for the excellent Doug Holtz-Eakin, Mr McCain?s most prominent economic adviser and a former head of the Congressional Budget Office. 'Although I have tended to vote Republican,' one reply says, 'the Democrats have a deep pool of talented, moderate economists.'"

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Examining the candidates.

I agree with the gist of the article. McCain's budget plans ends up putting the country in even more national debt, when we've already hit ten trillion dollars. When it comes to economy, Obama's plan simply makes more sense.

Don't analyze the promises, analyze the results. We'll see where we are in 4 years under Obama.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
:thumbsup: for getting the economists on Obama's side. And since the scientists are mostly voting his way as well, that gives us a majority of the experts telling us that Obama will run the nation better than McCain.

Well to me the vote right now boils down to this: Do we want more war, and more spending on war, or do we want to start bringing troops back and fixing our economy? To me the answer is clear: we need to fix the economy ASAP. We cannot afford another 4 years of this, especially when McCain's economic plan already is estimated to put us several hundred billion dollars more in debt each year. It simply doesn't balance out.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Juddog
Examining the candidates.

I agree with the gist of the article. McCain's budget plans ends up putting the country in even more national debt, when we've already hit ten trillion dollars. When it comes to economy, Obama's plan simply makes more sense.

Don't analyze the promises, analyze the results. We'll see where we are in 4 years under Obama.

Great, let me just get out my crystal ball :roll:

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

I agree, the Economist tends to lean to the right, but in this case they were very objective in their analysis, which showed Obama as the far stronger candidate for our economy.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center.

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center. [b/]

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

the economist has traditionally been center right.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center.

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

the economist has traditionally been center right.

no, it has not

 

[sandorski]

Everything leans "Left" to some unfortunate few.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's easy to condemn anybody as "leftist" when the pov being espoused is, itself, only slightly "Left" of outright fascists and monarchists...

Simple answers for simple minds. If you don't agree, then it's "leftist"- see? Life is so simple in black and white...

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Juddog
Examining the candidates.

I agree with the gist of the article. McCain's budget plans ends up putting the country in even more national debt, when we've already hit ten trillion dollars. When it comes to economy, Obama's plan simply makes more sense.

Don't analyze the promises, analyze the results. We'll see where we are in 4 years under Obama.

Thank God for that!!

 

[Viditor]

2 things...

1. I agree (as do most I know) that the Economist is to the right of center usually
2. Just because it's not a scientific poll, doesn't mean it's meaningless...just not scientifically significant.

 

[Moonbeam]

Interesting. Even the money changers support Obama this time round.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Interesting. Even the money changers support Obama this time round.

Don't get your hopes up.

The Money changers don't have the keys to the Electoral Vote.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center.

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

roflcopter

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Interesting. Even the money changers support Obama this time round.

Hmmm, he must support their agenda, in which case Obama can't be trusted.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Everything leans "Left" to some unfortunate few.

On November 5th when Fox News must inevitably declare Obama the winner, JS80 will declare Fox as center left :laugh:

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

I agree, the Economist tends to lean to the right, but in this case they were very objective in their analysis, which showed Obama as the far stronger candidate for our economy.

46% of respondents admit to be Democrats vs. 10% who are Republican. How can you pretend that they were objective??

Maybe the headline should read "Democratic Economists Pick Obama"

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

I agree, the Economist tends to lean to the right, but in this case they were very objective in their analysis, which showed Obama as the far stronger candidate for our economy.

46% of respondents admit to be Democrats vs. 10% who are Republican. How can you pretend that they were objective??

Maybe the headline should read "Democratic Economists Pick Obama"

Maybe 46% are Democrats BECAUSE they're economists who know what they are talking about.

It's a fallacy that in the center of Republicans and Democrats is some ultimate truth and neutrality.
What if it was a poll between McCain and Ron Paul? Would you complain if only 1% of them were Ron Paul supporters?

When Obama wins the election, are you going to complain because the electorate wasn't an even split?

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center.

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

Ha... you've obviously never read The Economist. That thing is definitely not left-leaning.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

I agree, the Economist tends to lean to the right, but in this case they were very objective in their analysis, which showed Obama as the far stronger candidate for our economy.

46% of respondents admit to be Democrats vs. 10% who are Republican. How can you pretend that they were objective??

Maybe the headline should read "Democratic Economists Pick Obama"

Because Pro-Jo, in short not everyone is like you, this is something that you never seem to be able to understand. These people are professionals, asked for their professional opinion and they gave it. I was in the military, I thought the Iraq war was illegal (hey look I was right!), and yet I still went out and did my job. People can separate their personal and professional views. Once you figure this out you'll be able to understand the world much better.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: bdude
The Economist is generally sound in it's advice. Definitely leans towards the right, but in this case they are correct.

The Economist does not lean toward the right...it's is definitely left of center.

That is a meaningless poll. Of course academics will support him.

edit: the magazine even admits it's meaninglessness

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists.

Ha... you've obviously never read The Economist. That thing is definitely not left-leaning.

Well it depends. They are pretty libertarian... which means they would be social liberals, but economic conservatives. As far as economics go, and this is an economic issue, yes they are pretty heavily right wing.