Obama's Ideal Soldiers

[Orignal Earl]

I can't see why those guys are Obama's ideal soldiers?
But I do get a hint of repressed homosexuality from your posts

 

[woolfe9999]

Flame baiting and intentional trollish antagonistic posts are against the rules maybe?

That may be, but it isn't what Texashiker wrote. What he wrote was that he should be banned merely for the act of posting that particular photograph. I'm curious why posting that photograph should be a bannable offense regardless of context.

 

[Infohawk]

DADT was working and there was nothing that needed to be fixed.

That is a weird position to have if you don't like the picture in the OP. Is it really better to have a closeted gay person in your unit than an openly gay one?

 

[Nebor]

Flamebait, and banworthy.

Nothing wrong with the picture, it's great that we're making progress in that regard. I posted that picture up on facebook on Saturday and got a lot of positive feedback from friends in the Air Force, Marines, Navy, Army & other nation's defense forces.

FWIW I'm in the Army and very few people give a damn about anyone elses sexual orientation. You know what we do care about? Our brother in arms getting blown to shit in Afghanistan, then laying in a hospital room and not being able to see the person they love the most in the world because of ridiculous regulations and discrimination against same sex couples.

 

[Siddhartha]

Oh no!!!!

Marines I know at Camp Lejeune tell me that they don't want blacks in their units and if they could speak out about it, would. Fear of court-martial or other non-judicial punishment is the reason why they are not speaking out in mass. Speaking out is the scarlet letter for future advancement. Segregation was working and there was nothing that needed to be fixed.

Feel free to substitute any other bigoted fear in.

This is what I was thinking.

 

[thraashman]

Flamebait, and banworthy.

Nothing wrong with the picture, it's great that we're making progress in that regard. I posted that picture up on facebook on Saturday and got a lot of positive feedback from friends in the Air Force, Marines, Navy, Army & other nation's defense forces.

FWIW I'm in the Army and very few people give a damn about anyone elses sexual orientation. You know what we do care about? Our brother in arms getting blown to shit in Afghanistan, then laying in a hospital room and not being able to see the person they love the most in the world because of ridiculous regulations and discrimination against same sex couples.

Now that is something that needs to be explained to every discriminating asshole that has a problem with ending DADT. Because a soldier who's risking their life shouldn't have to worry about hiding their loved ones away from their military leadership for fear of being discharged.

 

[shadow9d9]

You are in the wrong forum buddy. Half of the threads here are intended to provoke retaliative responses. I guess I just found a nerve with you. I am conservative and you are liberal.... Shit you say might offend me and shit I say might offend you, but that's life and that is America.

You are a bigot an he isn't. it has nothing to do with being "conservative" or "liberal."

 

[Ausm]

Do you want this guy watching your ass?

I think when you are in a combat situation you wouldn't care what sexual orientation your comrades are. The only thing that matters is that they got your back and can shoot straight.

 

[irishScott]

I have a question.

Is there anything wrong with finding one guy kissing another guy repulsive? Is that all it takes to make somebody homophobic?

No, I find it repulsive as well. Frankly I find gay men who take the femininity too far (faeries) repulsive in general. But its their right to do it if they want.

 

[Orignal Earl]

No, I find it repulsive as well. Frankly I find gay men who take the femininity too far (faeries) repulsive in general. But its their right to do it if they want.

Where I come from. real men don't hang out on message boards and talk about computers and japanese cartoons. Thats what little skinny and or fat geeks and nerds do.

 

[irishScott]

Where I come from. real men don't hang out on message boards and talk about computers and japanese cartoons. Thats what little skinny and or fat geeks and nerds do.

Where I come from, real men don't give a shit.

 

[shadow9d9]

No, I find it repulsive as well. Frankly I find gay men who take the femininity too far (faeries) repulsive in general. But its their right to do it if they want.

I find bigots more repulsive.

 

[irishScott]

I find bigots more repulsive.

Read what you just posted and tell me how you feel about idiots.

You're calling me a bigot because I have a natural repulsion to gay faeries? After I've said it's their right to be faeries in public if they so wish? I think you need some time with reality.

Watching a gay faerie is, to me like watching a dog meow. Sure it may be a nice, loyal dog with all the traits of the most awesome dog ever, and it's not the dog's fault, but it still looks and feels out of order and wrong. Likewise I have a natural revulsion to looking at other guys' junk in the locker room. Can I do it? Certainly. Do I want to? Of course not. I guess I'm bigoted against all men, seeing as how I don't want to look at their junk.

And before you start calling me a homophobe or a repressed homosexual (the apparent default response of the more politically correct among us), I would like to point out that revulsion != fear.

 

[shadow9d9]

Read what you just posted and tell me how you feel about idiots.

You're calling me a bigot because I have a natural repulsion to gay faeries? After I've said it's their right to be faeries in public if they so wish? I think you need some time with reality.

Watching a gay faerie is, to me like watching a dog meow. Sure it may be a nice, loyal dog with all the traits of the most awesome dog ever, and it's not the dog's fault, but it still looks and feels out of order and wrong. Likewise I have a natural revulsion to looking at other guys' junk in the locker room. Can I do it? Certainly. Do I want to? Of course not. I guess I'm bigoted against all men, seeing as how I don't want to look at their junk.

And before you start calling me a homophobe or a repressed homosexual (the apparent default response of the more politically correct among us), I would like to point out that revulsion != fear.

My response was to your response of "No, I find it repulsive as well." Is this not in regards to the picture?

Bigot- "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."
You show animosity with your choice of words: repulsive, faery, etc.

Repulsive- "2. To rebuff or reject with rudeness, coldness, or denial."

I wasn't even commenting on the rest of your commentary. But a quick look on urban dictionary shows:

An offensive word toward a homosexual. Supposedly British context.

A male homosexual (rude and derogatory)




Your comparison to looking at people's genitals is an extremely poor analogy. You wouldn't say you are repulsed by it, just that you wouldn't go out of your way to look at it. Repulsion is a strong word. You then admittedly describe it as "out of order and wrong." This shows how extreme and out of whack your reaction is to something prevalent in nature(ever have a same sex dog try to hump you?), media, etc.

 

[irishScott]

My response was to your response of "No, I find it repulsive as well." Is this not in regards to the picture?



I wasn't even commenting on the rest of your commentary. But a quick look on urban dictionary shows:

An offensive word toward a homosexual. Supposedly British context.

A male homosexual (rude and derogatory)

Are we even talking about the same thing? You quoted my entire post and implied that I was a bigot... because I used the term fairy? It's a commonly accepted term for the more overtly feminine gay men. I've heard gays refer to other gays as fairies, or is it like the n word? (if black people use it it's fine, but if a white guy says the exact same thing in the exact same context it's racist).

 

[shadow9d9]

Are we even talking about the same thing? You quoted my entire post and implied that I was a bigot... because I used the term fairy? It's a commonly accepted term for the more overtly feminine gay men. I've heard gays refer to other gays as fairies, or is it like the n word? (if black people use it it's fine, but if a white guy says the exact same thing in the exact same context it's racist).

I quoted 2 sentences and responded to the first one specifically, but it also semi applies to the second.

I've edited my response a whole bunch of times. Go back and check out my clarifications.


Also, imo, the N word is NOT fine when black people use it. I don't care if they fool themselves into thinking so out of ignorance or peer pressure, but they demean themselves.

 

[irishScott]

My response was to your response of "No, I find it repulsive as well." Is this not in regards to the picture?

Bigot- "A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."
You show animosity with your choice of words: repulsive, faery, etc.

Repulsive- "2. To rebuff or reject with rudeness, coldness, or denial."

I wasn't even commenting on the rest of your commentary. But a quick look on urban dictionary shows:

An offensive word toward a homosexual. Supposedly British context.

A male homosexual (rude and derogatory)




Your comparison to looking at people's genitals is an extremely poor analogy. You wouldn't say you are repulsed by it, just that you wouldn't go out of your way to look at it. Repulsion is a strong word. You then admittedly describe it as "out of order and wrong." This shows how extreme and out of whack your reaction is to something prevalent in nature(ever have a same sex dog try to hump you?), media, etc.

Well since we have Mr. Dictionary here:

Animosity: a feeling of strong dislike, ill will, or enmity that tends to display itself in action.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/animosity

Intolerance: incapacity or indisposition to bear or endure
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Intolerance

I do have feelings of strong dislike towards gay fairies, or "overtly feminine gay males" if your sensibilities would prefer me to use a softer synonym, but they have yet to display themselves in any action other than avoidance when practical. I have also stated that I have the capacity and disposition to bear and endure gay fairies, I simply lack the desire and maintain an impulse to bear them for as little as necessary.

Therefore by your definition I am not a bigot.


As for repulsive, I would challenge your definition with my own: causing repugnance or aversion, tending to drive away or keep at a distance; cold; forbidding
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Repulsive

I find gay faeries and their overt femininity to be quite repugnant, and I am quite averse to their presence. As previously stated, I tend to keep my distance when practical. But as previously stated, I can when necessary endure their presence and I do morally believe that they have a right to act however they please in that regard, regardless of my feelings. I also morally believe that I have the right to find it repulsive if I so feel.

 

[shadow9d9]

Well since we have Mr. Dictionary here:

Animosity: a feeling of strong dislike, ill will, or enmity that tends to display itself in action.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/animosity

Intolerance: incapacity or indisposition to bear or endure
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Intolerance

I do have feelings of strong dislike towards gay fairies, or "overtly feminine gay males" if your sensibilities would prefer me to use a softer synonym, but they have yet to display themselves in any action other than avoidance when practical. I have also stated that I have the capacity and disposition to bear and endure gay fairies, I simply lack the desire and maintain an impulse to bear them for as little as necessary.

Therefore by your definition I am not a bigot.


As for repulsive, I would challenge your definition with my own: causing repugnance or aversion, tending to drive away or keep at a distance; cold; forbidding
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Repulsive

I find gay faeries and their overt femininity to be quite repugnant, and I am quite averse to their presence. As previously stated, I tend to keep my distance when practical. But as previously stated, I can when necessary endure their presence and I do morally believe that they have a right to act however they please in that regard, regardless of my feelings. I also morally believe that I have the right to find it repulsive if I so feel.

How does that disprove me? As I said, that fits the definition...

You can believe that you have the right to be a bigot... believe it or not, that is how most bigots feel... Do you think they feel bad about it?

If you feel the need to keep your distance from people that are acting a certain way because of how they are born, I don't see how that can be interpreted as being anything but bigoted.


Bigoted or not, I encourage you to watched episode 6 of season one of Extras with Ricky Gervais. It deals with this very subject and is hilarious.

 

[irishScott]

How does that disprove me? As I said, that fits the definition...

You can believe that you have the right to be a bigot... believe it or not, that is how most bigots feel... Do you think they feel bad about it?

If you feel the need to keep your distance from people that are acting a certain way because of how they are born, I don't see how that can be interpreted as being anything but bigoted.


Bigoted or not, I encourage you to watched episode 6 of season one of Extras with Ricky Gervais. It deals with this very subject and is hilarious.

If I'm a bigot, I'm the most infinitely mild bigot on the face of this planet. I think you're trying to pigeon-hole me so can build me into something I'm not.

I feel the need to keep my distance from things that disgust me yes. Or is it because we're talking about human beings that I'm not allowed to be disgusted by them?

I'm not disgusted by the fact that they're gay, I'm disgusted by how some gay people display it. Likewise I am not disgusted by the fact that men have penises, but I will be disgusted by a man walking around naked, regardless of sexual orientation.

 

[zanejohnson]

what's fucked up is the people who use this as a tool, like the op..

sure the pic is offensive... but a pic of a girl wrapped around a guy if it's not porno, is too, to some people...

people are gay, its truth... i dont wanna see it.. but other than that it's not my problem, i can look away....

 

[Jaskalas]

Serious question, but how do we know those are two men? The one being held is not clear.

Far as that picture goes it could simply mean we want a bunch of kissy washy let's make peace soldiers. The kind that apologies if we step on the wrong piece of paper. The kind that then apologies when our men are killed over that piece of paper.

 

[trenchfoot]

If I'm a bigot, I'm the most infinitely mild bigot on the face of this planet. I think you're trying to pigeon-hole me so can build me into something I'm not.

I feel the need to keep my distance from things that disgust me yes. Or is it because we're talking about human beings that I'm not allowed to be disgusted by them?

I'm not disgusted by the fact that they're gay, I'm disgusted by how some gay people display it. Likewise I am not disgusted by the fact that men have penises, but I will be disgusted by a man walking around naked, regardless of sexual orientation.

My sentiments as well. My knee-jerk reaction was "geez fella's, get a room!." And after a couple of seconds, I chuckled at the pic and said to myself "Well, there ya go. They were so happy to reunite, they forgot their situational awareness and probably got embarrassed at the heightened display of affection they found themselves in."

MIght be interesting to find out what happened to the returnee after his commander got a copy of the pic emailed to him/her.

 

[biostud]

#404, problem not found.

 

[biostud]

If I were a soldier I would like my buddies to be able to think for them self. So I would like the OP to explain why homosexuals should be worse soldiers than heterosexuals.

 

[halik]

This is the most anticlimactic title->thread resolution ever. Even worse than Brokeback Mountain, where I was somehow conned into watching a 2 hours chick flick with dudes.