Obama's health policy may give a booster dose to Indian generics

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Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Rainsford
So your in favor of protectionism at the cost of peoples' health? Obama's plan sounds like a pretty good idea to me, and honestly I don't think we'll lose many pharma jobs in the US. Drugs in the US are so ridiculously overpriced that I have a hard time believing JOBS will be the first thing cut if competition heats up. I just don't buy that big pharma companies are the ones we need to be protecting against the hordes of sick people who need to choose between food and medicine.

Not at all. I'm curious as to the liberal theory that protectionism is somehow great when it protects the job of labor unions and unskilled workers, but not in this scenario. They have constantly whined about President Bush's trade agreements.

I do believe we have to honor our constitutional responsibility to protect our patents, though.

Interesting. I thought you righties claimed that the Constitution does not apply to foreign countries and peoples, because that's how you support torture, permanent detention, etc. But now you're saying our Constitutional laws do in fact apply internationally? Can't have it both ways, so which is it?

No, I'm saying that while other countries may or may not freely violate our patents, we should not be allowed to import these cheaper products into this country as that would shift the patent violation from foreign soil to domestic soil.

It's no different than Chinese pirated movies. Stop it at the borders. Just like Guantanemo is outside our borders.

What part of generics don't you get? These are off patent drugs. If someone is making fake patented restless leg syndrome pills, then yeah, stop them at the border. But if someone is making off patent generics, as long as they meet FDA standards, I don't really care where they come from. It's just a molecule, not Indian or American molecule.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Rainsford
So your in favor of protectionism at the cost of peoples' health? Obama's plan sounds like a pretty good idea to me, and honestly I don't think we'll lose many pharma jobs in the US. Drugs in the US are so ridiculously overpriced that I have a hard time believing JOBS will be the first thing cut if competition heats up. I just don't buy that big pharma companies are the ones we need to be protecting against the hordes of sick people who need to choose between food and medicine.

Not at all. I'm curious as to the liberal theory that protectionism is somehow great when it protects the job of labor unions and unskilled workers, but not in this scenario. They have constantly whined about President Bush's trade agreements.

I do believe we have to honor our constitutional responsibility to protect our patents, though.

Interesting. I thought you righties claimed that the Constitution does not apply to foreign countries and peoples, because that's how you support torture, permanent detention, etc. But now you're saying our Constitutional laws do in fact apply internationally? Can't have it both ways, so which is it?

No, I'm saying that while other countries may or may not freely violate our patents, we should not be allowed to import these cheaper products into this country as that would shift the patent violation from foreign soil to domestic soil.

It's no different than Chinese pirated movies. Stop it at the borders. Just like Guantanemo is outside our borders.

What part of generics don't you get? These are off patent drugs. If someone is making fake patented restless leg syndrome pills, then yeah, stop them at the border. But if someone is making off patent generics, as long as they meet FDA standards, I don't really care where they come from. It's just a molecule, not Indian or American molecule.

Uh, some countries don't recognize our patents and simply copy the molecule. India was doing that with Spiriva. Cipla, actually. So, some "generics" aren't fakes in the molecular sense, and aren't illegal where produced.

If I'm not understanding what you are saying, your comments above are unclear. So, it's your fault. j/k

-Robert