Obama's average approval rating lower than Nixon's or G.W. Bush

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Thank you, I know that living in Canada you're pretty hard up this time of year for amusement. I'm glad I could bring a little sunshine into your life.

truly hell on earth

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HomerJS

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Ewwww. No thanks, not my cup of tea, so to speak, but thanks for proving my point about trolling and lefties to MrPickins. It's always nice to be proved honest and accurate once again.
You've been doing it since this guy proved himself unfit for office. You're just not smart enough to know it.
 

MongGrel

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The Kunduz airlift and Bush's ignoring intelligence on Bin Laden's whereabouts, and the flights out of the U.S. on 9/12 with FBI escorts which included people that the Bush admin knew by then were involved in 9/11 funding pretty much shows Afganistan was never about Al Qaeda to start with, but an excuse to push the long-standing neoconservative agenda since the 1980s of invading multiple middle eastern countries an effort to "secure the next American Century".

I wouldn't call it "taking his eye off Afganistan". More like "his strategic objective was already met at that point".

Bush was busy reading a book to toddlers att, the Saudis received a free pass to bug out when everything was grounded.

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Thump553

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Yes, because George W. Bush was NEVER subjected to a partisan political environment and neither was Richard M. Nixon. Those all happened only in the last 8 years and only by the Evil Republicans and Evil Tea Party conservatives. Everyone knows that Democrats and liberals are all sweetness and light .........right? Right?

Having lived through that era (was in college and subject to the Vietnam era draft then), you are dead wrong in your assumption that there was hyper-partisanship at time. There was huge turmoil, but it was more the rest of us against Nixon and his fellow travelers. For example, this country and the GOP would be totally different if George Romney (Mitt's dad) beat out Nixon in the 1968 primaries. After Bobby Kennedy was killed Romney was my second choice-and then Nelson Rockefeller (also GOP). And I'm what you would classify as a die-hard Dem these days.

Please remember that the daddy and patron saint of hyper-partisanship is Newt Gingrich and his GOP of the nineties, which has only been getting worse and worse as time goes on. Heck now we are into the "alternate facts" stage when our leaders (really rulers) choose to believe what they want, reality be damned. No country will be able to survive long under such a charade.

Back on your main point, I think how history treats a President is a whole lot more important than popularity polls. Truman's popularity was mediocre at best, and Britain voted out Churchill at the end of WWII. It's too early to tell, but my gut says history will treat Obama as the last great president of the USA, crippled by a dysfunctional legislative branch.
 

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His average job approval rating was 47.9%. Nixon's was 49% and G.W. Bush was 49.4% Although Obama's approval rating was higher late in his 2nd term it's probably just the relief citizens felt to get rid of the idiot.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...d-lower-average-approval-rating-nixon-or-bush

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/o...e=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles
Yeah, Obama was the worst president in history, lucky we didn't let history repeat itself with Hillary.
 

vampirefo

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Obama has a pretty high approval rating from me, after all he single handedly gave us a Republican House, Senate and Presidency.
Well Hillary helped, such an evil disgraceful human.

Obama and Hillary combo turned not only the president office over to us but pretty much the entire government.

One's party really must suck when they lose everything.
 
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Having lived through that era (was in college and subject to the Vietnam era draft then), you are dead wrong in your assumption that there was hyper-partisanship at time. There was huge turmoil, but it was more the rest of us against Nixon and his fellow travelers. For example, this country and the GOP would be totally different if George Romney (Mitt's dad) beat out Nixon in the 1968 primaries. After Bobby Kennedy was killed Romney was my second choice-and then Nelson Rockefeller (also GOP). And I'm what you would classify as a die-hard Dem these days.

Please remember that the daddy and patron saint of hyper-partisanship is Newt Gingrich and his GOP of the nineties, which has only been getting worse and worse as time goes on. Heck now we are into the "alternate facts" stage when our leaders (really rulers) choose to believe what they want, reality be damned. No country will be able to survive long under such a charade.

Back on your main point, I think how history treats a President is a whole lot more important than popularity polls. Truman's popularity was mediocre at best, and Britain voted out Churchill at the end of WWII. It's too early to tell, but my gut says history will treat Obama as the last great president of the USA, crippled by a dysfunctional legislative branch.
Having also lived through the era of Watergate and George W. Bush I can categorically state what you say is bullshit. Remember the 1968 Democratic convention? Remember the violent protests against Nixon? Remember the SDS? Remember the bank bombings and police officers being assassinated? You don't even mention McGovern.
 

fskimospy

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His average job approval rating was 47.9%. Nixon's was 49% and G.W. Bush was 49.4% Although Obama's approval rating was higher late in his 2nd term it's probably just the relief citizens felt to get rid of the idiot.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...d-lower-average-approval-rating-nixon-or-bush

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/o...e=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

This is some next level wishful thinking. I was wondering the other day how conservatives were going to convince themselves that despite Obama leaving office as a very popular president that secretly America didn't really like him.

Here's a suggestion for deluding yourself in the future: don't pick people who exited office with a 22% approval rating or whatever as your examples of people who were more liked. It's embarrassing.

Maybe you guys just need to accept that Obama did a good job and in the end people liked him for it. It's pretty funny that even after he's out of office the ODS is so strong that you can't admit that.
 

Thump553

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Having also lived through the era of Watergate and George W. Bush I can categorically state what you say is bullshit. Remember the 1968 Democratic convention? Remember the violent protests against Nixon? Remember the SDS? Remember the bank bombings and police officers being assassinated? You don't even mention McGovern.
Nonsense. Do you think everyone opposed to Nixon and/or the Vietnam War was SDS or the equivalent? There were hundreds, thousands of marches and protests that were nonviolent.

And as far as the 1968 Dem Convention goes, that was a police riot, where the police essentially went berserk on those who had the gall to assemble and protest. There were an awful lot of us nonpartisans who strongly opposed nearly all of what Nixon stood for.

McGovern didn't run until 1972-a great WWII hero who was a very weak, one issue candidate. His platform was essentially I'm not Nixon and I'll end the war now, whereas Nixon had a large chunk of the population bamboozled that he was the peace president, he wanted "peace with honor."

There was turmoil then, moreso than now-but it was based on real issues and real differences. Today was are living with a gulf of us versus them intentionally created and fostered by the modern GOP.
 
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Serious question to the OP: @imported_tajmahal what is the point you're trying to make with this thread?
Exactly what it states, Obama had a lower average approval rating than Nixon or Bush. We were inundated with Obama's approval rating as his term was ending as if it validated the lefts and the medias opinion of him, but the fact is that the American people had a pretty low opinion of him throughout his term. It was a pretty simple little news story that caught my eye and the anger/hatred/outrage exhibited by you and the other lefties in this forum really means that the story struck a nerve for you guys. It's a story about a popularity contest, big whoopee.
 

fskimospy

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Exactly what it states, Obama had a lower average approval rating than Nixon or Bush. We were inundated with Obama's approval rating as his term was ending as if it validated the lefts and the medias opinion of him, but the fact is that the American people had a pretty low opinion of him throughout his term. It was a pretty simple little news story that caught my eye and the anger/hatred/outrage exhibited by you and the other lefties in this forum really means that the story struck a nerve for you guys. It's a story about a popularity contest, big whoopee.

The guy still desperately posting stories to try and convince other people and himself that Obama isn't popular thinks other people were triggered.

lol.
 
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Nonsense. Do you think everyone opposed to Nixon and/or the Vietnam War was SDS or the equivalent? There were hundreds, thousands of marches and protests that were nonviolent.

And as far as the 1968 Dem Convention goes, that was a police riot, where the police essentially went berserk on those who had the gall to assemble and protest. There were an awful lot of us nonpartisans who strongly opposed nearly all of what Nixon stood for.

McGovern didn't run until 1972-a great WWII hero who was a very weak, one issue candidate. His platform was essentially I'm not Nixon and I'll end the war now, whereas Nixon had a large chunk of the population bamboozled that he was the peace president, he wanted "peace with honor."

There was turmoil then, moreso than now-but it was based on real issues and real differences. Today was are living with a gulf of us versus them intentionally created and fostered by the modern GOP.
No, but if you think that partisanship in those days wasn't the same as in Obama's 2 terms you are sadly mistaken. If you think that partisanship is only displayed by the conservatives or Republicans you're an woefully ignorant.
 

fskimospy

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No, but if you think that partisanship in those days wasn't the same as in Obama's 2 terms you are sadly mistaken. If you think that partisanship is only displayed by the conservatives or Republicans you're an woefully ignorant.

It wasn't even close. This chart doesn't go all the way back to 1972 but unless you're going to try and claim some massive downswing between then and the 90's you're full of shit. Again.

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Homerboy

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Exactly what it states, Obama had a lower average approval rating than Nixon or Bush. We were inundated with Obama's approval rating as his term was ending as if it validated the lefts and the medias opinion of him, but the fact is that the American people had a pretty low opinion of him throughout his term. It was a pretty simple little news story that caught my eye and the anger/hatred/outrage exhibited by you and the other lefties in this forum really means that the story struck a nerve for you guys. It's a story about a popularity contest, big whoopee.

You got anger from my post? That's a shame. I just asked a question :(