Obama's 12/6 Kansas speech

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xBiffx

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Jon Favreau is the Director of Speechwriting for the administration of President Barack Obama.

Which explains why Obama's speeches are constantly filled with fantasy. From Cowboys and Aliens to Liberals and Ideas.
 

spidey07

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All I heard was him stoking the flames of class warfare like he always does and the reason people are suffering is because of somebody else and it isn't fair. It's what he is, this is what he believes to the core - he is and remains a hard core marxist.

And may great fuck be upon him for trying to lump tea party patriots in with occupy communists, great fuck upon him for that. I wouldn't be surprised if this fucker tries to preach some new bill of rights to appeal to his hard left base.
 

Craig234

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All I heard was him stoking the flames of class warfare

When he says 'good evening' you hear him call for the torture of all 'real patriots' who want to make this a fascist country. I don't think what 'you hear' is useful.
 

BoberFett

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All I heard was him stoking the flames of class warfare like he always does and the reason people are suffering is because of somebody else and it isn't fair. It's what he is, this is what he believes to the core - he is and remains a hard core marxist.

And may great fuck be upon him for trying to lump tea party patriots in with occupy communists, great fuck upon him for that. I wouldn't be surprised if this fucker tries to preach some new bill of rights to appeal to his hard left base.

Do you really not understand the difference between Marxism and crony capitalism?

Both are bad (IMO) but for completely different reasons.
 

feralkid

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All I heard was him stoking the flames of class warfare like he always does and the reason people are suffering is because of somebody else and it isn't fair. It's what he is, this is what he believes to the core - he is and remains a hard core marxist.



Tea Party Nutjob calls the President of the U.S. a Marxist!


Set your faces to stun!


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Paul98

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So you want to see action taken, so do I, but why not put that on the guy who just made the speech instead of, in the very next sentence, immediately blaming Republicans for what Obama said he would do. Obama has said all this before, and you can say Congress has not made it possible, but that argument only works if the President actually led and tried to do the things he preaches instead of doing nothing and sitting back and complaining about none of his ideas happening. You want something done, do it yourself. Many outside of Washington have figured this out, its a pity that he hasn't.

Because you can't, which is the very point. If he were able to do things himself he would. But when you need these people to support who won't no matter what, trying to do it on your own won't get you anywhere. This won't happen till the republicans start living in the real world, which I don't expect to happen for a very long time. Right now they are so entrenched into ideas that have already proven to not work and when shown over and over still doesn't change their minds. Every once in a while I hear them say something that is supported in reality, and most of the time they retract those statements and go into stupid mode so they can get emotional support that has nothing to do with reality.
 

xBiffx

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Because you can't, which is the very point. If he were able to do things himself he would. But when you need these people to support who won't no matter what, trying to do it on your own won't get you anywhere. This won't happen till the republicans start living in the real world, which I don't expect to happen for a very long time. Right now they are so entrenched into ideas that have already proven to not work and when shown over and over still doesn't change their minds. Every once in a while I hear them say something that is supported in reality, and most of the time they retract those statements and go into stupid mode so they can get emotional support that has nothing to do with reality.

The exact same thing can be said for the other side. Sorry you don't realize that. But throwing hands in the air saying "what't the point in trying" has gotten us to where we are today. Someone needs to grow a pair and start trying new ideas regardless of the political dangers in doing so. Too many are worried about keeping their jobs and not actually doing them. Too bad you keep voting for more of the same.
 

spidey07

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Because you can't, which is the very point. If he were able to do things himself he would. But when you need these people to support who won't no matter what, trying to do it on your own won't get you anywhere. This won't happen till the republicans start living in the real world, which I don't expect to happen for a very long time. Right now they are so entrenched into ideas that have already proven to not work and when shown over and over still doesn't change their minds. Every once in a while I hear them say something that is supported in reality, and most of the time they retract those statements and go into stupid mode so they can get emotional support that has nothing to do with reality.

Do you forget the first two years he had near super majorities in the house and senate? It's hilarious to watch democrats try to blame republicans when they had super majorities.

Talk about somebody not connected to reality...
 

Paul98

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All I heard was him stoking the flames of class warfare like he always does and the reason people are suffering is because of somebody else and it isn't fair. It's what he is, this is what he believes to the core - he is and remains a hard core marxist.

And may great fuck be upon him for trying to lump tea party patriots in with occupy communists, great fuck upon him for that. I wouldn't be surprised if this fucker tries to preach some new bill of rights to appeal to his hard left base.

Wait were you listening to the republicans talking about the top 1%? The republicans have been championing class warfare for a long time and winning. When the vast majority is getting screwed and want a fair chance it's class warfare. LOL

Yeah there are mad people in tea party and occupy, the only difference is that the message of the tea party is stupid, and occupy makes sense.

Tea party is taxed enough already while we have the lowest taxes we have had in a long time. That makes no sense....

Occupy against corporate and government corruption at a time when the majority of american is in a recession, while the top is not and making record profits.
 

Paul98

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Do you forget the first two years he had near super majorities in the house and senate? It's hilarious to watch democrats try to blame republicans when they had super majorities.

Talk about somebody not connected to reality...

Yeah and they should have actually rammed through what they wanted to do instead of trying to make the republicans happy at all. We would be in much better shape right now had that happened. I think Obama was delusional when he thought that republicans would work in a rational way. Till you see how the otherside thinks you won't be able to make correct decisions.
 

Paul98

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The exact same thing can be said for the other side. Sorry you don't realize that. But throwing hands in the air saying "what't the point in trying" has gotten us to where we are today. Someone needs to grow a pair and start trying new ideas regardless of the political dangers in doing so. Too many are worried about keeping their jobs and not actually doing them. Too bad you keep voting for more of the same.

He has tried to work with the other side, over and over with the same result. He is trying different approaches, if he kept on doing what he started doing we would continue to get the same result. But right now the right is soo far from reality it's going to be very hard for anyone to change anything they think.
 

xBiffx

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He has tried to work with the other side, over and over with the same result. He is trying different approaches, if he kept on doing what he started doing we would continue to get the same result. But right now the right is soo far from reality it's going to be very hard for anyone to change anything they think.

A la Obamacare? That's what you call working with the other side? You wreak.
 

feralkid

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Do you forget the first two years he had near super majorities in the house and senate? It's hilarious to watch democrats try to blame republicans when they had super majorities.

Talk about somebody not connected to reality...

They never had a super majority in the senate.
 

spidey07

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They never had a super majority in the senate.

They had 60 (3/5ths) until karma caught up to kennedy and the scott heard around the world happened.

And then the elections of 2010 showed exactly what America thought of Obama and his constant attack on our very way of life. Obama made a crucial mistake - he showed what the liberal agenda really was instead of keeping it hidden. This is the mind of a liberal, they believe folks actually want what they're pushing and if socialism doesn't work it's only because they didn't go full commie. You see this in this thread and the views of the left - the only reason for obama's failures is because he didn't go far enough and he deserves 4 more years to finish the job of fundamentally transforming this country. It's those darn republicans stopping him (thank god for those patriots).

No, fuck be upon him and any who support him.
 
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Paul98

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They had 60 (3/5ths) until karma caught up to kennedy and the scott heard around the world happened.

And then the elections of 2010 showed exactly what America thought of Obama and his constant attack on our very way of life. Obama made a crucial mistake - he showed what the liberal agenda really was instead of keeping it hidden. This is the mind of a liberal, they believe folks actually want what they're pushing and if socialism doesn't work it's only because they didn't go full commie. You see this in this thread and the views of the left - the only reason for obama's failures is because he didn't go far enough and he deserves 4 more years to finish the job of fundamentally transforming this country. It's those darn republicans stopping him (thank god for those patriots).

No, fuck be upon him and any who support him.

It was just idiots who were angry about the recession and since weren't smart enough to figure out the problem and instead blamed Obama and the democrats. Republicans should be very happy that Bush didn't have 2 more years in office. If he did the republicans wouldn't have much of a party left right now.
 

wayliff

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Do you forget the first two years he had near super majorities in the house and senate? It's hilarious to watch democrats try to blame republicans when they had super majorities.

Talk about somebody not connected to reality...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress

Near supermajority does not make it impossible to block something...ever heard of filibusters or senate secret holds?
 

spidey07

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They had 60 until Scott Brown, a fillibuster proof majority. Why do you think Brown got elected? It was to make sure we could stop the democrats and Obama.

A republican won the senate seat in Massachusetts. Say that again to realize how historic an event that was.
 

wayliff

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They had 60 until Scott Brown, a fillibuster proof majority. Why do you think Brown got elected? It was to make sure we could stop the democrats and Obama.

A republican won the senate seat in Massachusetts. Say that again to realize how historic an event that was.

I can't count 60 anywhere...at most I count 58 democrats with 2 independents...is a majority with a party leaning caucus considered a supermajority? I don't know so I am asking.
 
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feralkid

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They had 60 until Scott Brown, a fillibuster proof majority. Why do you think Brown got elected? It was to make sure we could stop the democrats and Obama.

A republican won the senate seat in Massachusetts. Say that again to realize how historic an event that was.

Are you insane?

Every link you posted proves you wrong.