OBAMARAMA: Clean Sweep Of Potomac Primaries

Pabster

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Story here.

Obama performs another clean sweep.

He is now leading in delegates (elected), and in overall delegates (even with Hillary's advantage in Super Delegates.)
 

Wreckem

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According to CBS, who had him leading after Sunday, Obama no wleads by 62 delegates.

He leads her by 148 elected/pledged delegates. He'll lead her by around 85 overall and 171 elected by March 4. Clinton cannot win by margins to over come 85 delegates, let alone the 171.
 

jonks

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It was obnoxious when Techs did it, it's still obnoxious. There's almost a month till Tx/Oh/Pn.

And Bama's speeches are getting old. Turn the page, past vs the future, wheels fell of the straight talk express, Bush won't be on the ticket. Even I used to be inspired by the speeches, but he needs to turn the page on his script.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Great, so we get to vote between CFR #1, CFR #2 and CFR #3. Stacked deck.

Oh noes! Teh Lizard people!
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
It was obnoxious when Techs did it, it's still obnoxious. There's almost a month till Tx/Oh/Pn.

And Bama's speeches are getting old. Turn the page, past vs the future, wheels fell of the straight talk express, Bush won't be on the ticket. Even I used to be inspired by the speeches, but he needs to turn the page on his script.

Have you listened to Clinton much? Hers hasnt changed a lick either.

See, Obamas message works, he doesn't need to change it. Clintons on the other hand doesn't work, and she needed to change awhile ago.

Its 3 weeks until TX, OH, RI, and VE.

Clinton cannot win by margins large enough to overcome Obama. Hell, she might not win the delegate race in Texas. Texas looks more and more like a split. Ohio, has some demographics favorable to Obama. Rhode Island and Vermont are ripe for the picking.

Lets face it 10- over the last races going into March 4 HURTS Clinton A LOT.

March 4 is her last stand. If she doesnt BLOW OUT Obama, April 22 won't matter. She needs a HUGE net gain on March 4, or she wont get the nomination. Odds are way agaisnt her to have any sort of blow out or a huge net gain in delegates.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
It was obnoxious when Techs did it, it's still obnoxious. There's almost a month till Tx/Oh/Pn.

And Bama's speeches are getting old. Turn the page, past vs the future, wheels fell of the straight talk express, Bush won't be on the ticket. Even I used to be inspired by the speeches, but he needs to turn the page on his script.

I was being pointedly sarcastic. Hence the little winky smiley thingy ;)

And you need to keep in mind that most people don't follow the political scene as closely as we do. In fact, most are probably seeing him speak for the first time. This race is only a couple months old after all.
 

Pabster

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Look at the margins. DC 76 to 24. Maryland 68 to 30 (currently), Virginia 63 to 36.

It's a ROUT!
 

trenchfoot

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dime to a dollar the clinton's are taking a good hard look at karl rove's playbook by now. should be soon that the gloves come off and the clinton's show their true colors.

let's see if they can choose between what's good for the party and country vs. what's good for them and their corporate backers. let's see how much of their campaign funds trace all the way back to wally world and the nafta profiteers.

obama must at the moment be suffering from smile cramps.
 

FoBoT

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i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz
 

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz

I can't imagine Obama offering or Hillary accepting, but hope she isn't tapped for VP.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz

I can't imagine Obama offering or Hillary accepting, but hope she isn't tapped for VP.

i have not heard any good reason for him to make her VP
that will only lose him Independents that don't like the Clintons
there is only downside to including Clinton

all the TV stuff says "democrats like both of them" , so if that is true, then if Obama wins fair/square, then the Dems will support Obama without Clinton as VP
 

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz

If Clinton doesnt win by large numbers(votes and delegates), the math just isnt there for her to win the most elected delegates. She doesn't win the most elected delegates, she doesn't get the nomination. The Democratic Leadership isn't going to let the party committ political suicide. You already have Dem leadership "leaking" they are leaning towards Obama.
 

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Obama and McCain running without VP, loser becomes the VP imho

I think McCain would rather go back to the hanoi hilton than be VP.

edit: likewise, I don't see what Hillary would gain by going from a powerful senator to being a symbolic VP... I wouldn't be surprised if she arranged for a chairmanship or something high profile in the senate in exchange for stepping down, though.
 

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Obama and McCain running without VP, loser becomes the VP imho

Well that would be unusual.

Edwards for VP maybe? I don't see Lieberman getting tapped :p
 
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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz

I can't imagine Obama offering or Hillary accepting, but hope she isn't tapped for VP.
Obama would completely obliterate his message of change in DC by having Hillary as VP. It would hand the presidency on a silver platter to McCain too.
 

Wreckem

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Obama needs a governor and one that has national security/foreign policy experiance.

I said it long ago(in Dec). If Richardson would accept, hes the best possible VP for Obama.

Hes a moderate.
He has strong national security/foreign policy experiance.
He helps Obama amongst hispanic.

Some on here said, it would be too "brown", but that is a ticket that cannot lose if the Democratic base stays this mobilized.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i will take Mar. 5 off from work, that way i can stay up late watching the Ohio and Texas results
with this momentum, if Obama can take those key states, she'll have to bow out 'for the good of the party' and all that jazz

I can't imagine Obama offering or Hillary accepting, but hope she isn't tapped for VP.
Obama would completely obliterate his message of change in DC by having Hillary as VP. It would hand the presidency on a silver platter to McCain too.

That's why I even when I typed it, I didn't believe it was likely at all but over the years I've seen some supposed bright candidates shoot themselves in the foot with bizarre moves.

When it comes to politics, most anyone can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Obama needs a governor and one that has national security/foreign policy experiance.

I said it long ago(in Dec). If Richardson would accept, hes the best possible VP for Obama.

Hes a moderate.
He has strong national security/foreign policy experiance.
He helps Obama amongst hispanic.

Some on here said, it would be too "brown", but that is a ticket that cannot lose if the Democratic base stays this mobilized.

Very good points