shira
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This is partly correct, but mostly wrong:Exactly, it's the underlying HC costs that are the problem.PJABBER said:Continue your research by examining the interposition of State (mostly, at the moment) and Federal requirements, the impact of provider liabilities, the covered group record, changes in coverage choices and coinsurability.
Nothing happens in isolation or with any great degree of arbitrariness in a competitive environment.
And I bet you will also find no real change in average profitability percentages at your chosen provider. It is all a pass through and a reflection of issues beyond the power of the insurer to affect directly.
Edit: And for people who understand that, Obama is being a jackass lately for railing about increases in premiums and demonizing HI companies. Since the underlying HC costs drive the premium increase, what does he want the HI companies to do, deny coverage?
Fern
It's the underlying STRUCTURE of health insurance in the U.S. that is the main problem, and if you think that ANY "no mandate" structure (in which anyone who wants to can opt-out of insurance) can control costs you are sadly mistaken.
The startling increases reported this year were clearly explained: More and more of the healthy are opting out of health insurance (including group health insurance) because premiums have gotten too expensive. That leaves a higher and higher percentage of those who remain insured as higher-risk customers. That, in turn, causes the per-insured cost to increase, leading to new rounds of premium increases, and new rounds of the healthy bailing out. And so on. This process is absolutely unsustainable, and anyone who says costs can be meaningfully controlled without a mandate is a fool or a fraud.
And the necessity of a mandate is just the beginning.
As a further measure to fight the cost spiral, MEANINGFUL cost-benefit analyses must be performed, and they must be binding. Last year's fiasco where the well-researched mammogram recommendations of a health panel (appointed under Bush) were shouted down from both sides of the aisle is a clear example of how ignorance and demagoguery rule our political discourse. Costs will be controlled only when demand for health services is controlled, and for those not in special high-risk groups, health services whose marginal benefit isn't worth their marginal cost must be placed fully on the patient.
I don't want to spend hours writing about all that's wrong with our current system. But mere tweaks to the status quo - which seems to be what the right wants - are a surefire recipe for more of the disaster that our health care system has become.