Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

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Oct 27, 2007
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Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl, who is a master of the obvious god bless her liberal soul, said it perfectly tonight - "How the fuck can you win a nobel peace prize when engaged in full fledged wars in Iraq and Afganistan!!!??? What the fuck!"

The committee decided that the pursuit of peace was a quality, at this juncture, more important than the realization of peace.

Also, unlike your girl, the committee distinguishes between Obama the man (earnestly pursuing peace) and Obama the president (commander in chief of two wars and constrained by realpolitik). The award goes to the man, not the president.

Controversial? Yes. Justifiable? In my humble opinion I believe so.

With that kind of cognitive dissonance is there anything he couldn't get away with in your view? You're a pathetic weasel. Obama is presiding over two wars, both invasions in foreign lands, and for that he is not a peaceful man, he is a warmongering POS no different from Professor Shit-for-brains he took over from.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: zinfamous
if anything, Reagan should have been thrown in jail for that, and having set in motion the collapse of the US (and world) economy.

1. He believed AIDS was a gay disease, and thought it was a clever solution to the "gay problem"
2. He took the power from the people and turned this country over to the banks--he hated poor people as much as, if not more, than the Soviets hated the wealthy.

Reagan was one of the worst presidents this country endured, and the post-presidency image restoration that the neo cons have achieved is nothing short of a miracle.



The propaganda (and delusion) is strong with this one.

fact, delusion, whatever you want to call it, I guess.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl, who is a master of the obvious god bless her liberal soul, said it perfectly tonight - "How the fuck can you win a nobel peace prize when engaged in full fledged wars in Iraq and Afganistan!!!??? What the fuck!"

The committee decided that the pursuit of peace was a quality, at this juncture, more important than the realization of peace.

Also, unlike your girl, the committee distinguishes between Obama the man (earnestly pursuing peace) and Obama the president (commander in chief of two wars and constrained by realpolitik). The award goes to the man, not the president.

Controversial? Yes. Justifiable? In my humble opinion I believe so.

With that kind of cognitive dissonance is there anything he couldn't get away with in your view? You're a pathetic weasel. Obama is presiding over two wars, both invasions in foreign lands, and for that he is not a peaceful man, he is a warmongering POS no different from Professor Shit-for-brains he took over from.


oh my, i think that is the first ive seen him called that on here. funny how the foaming at the mouth obamabots cant come to terms with that little gem of truth.

where is eskimopie?? i cant believe he hasn't squeaked his nonsense in this thread yet.

 

mjrpes3

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl, who is a master of the obvious god bless her liberal soul, said it perfectly tonight - "How the fuck can you win a nobel peace prize when engaged in full fledged wars in Iraq and Afganistan!!!??? What the fuck!"

The committee decided that the pursuit of peace was a quality, at this juncture, more important than the realization of peace.

Also, unlike your girl, the committee distinguishes between Obama the man (earnestly pursuing peace) and Obama the president (commander in chief of two wars and constrained by realpolitik). The award goes to the man, not the president.

Controversial? Yes. Justifiable? In my humble opinion I believe so.

With that kind of cognitive dissonance is there anything he couldn't get away with in your view? You're a pathetic weasel. Obama is presiding over two wars, both invasions in foreign lands, and for that he is not a peaceful man, he is a warmongering POS no different from Professor Shit-for-brains he took over from.

Going straight for the ad hominem is fail. At least the poster above was kind enough to say he "strongly disagreed" with me before bringing up Hilter.

My point was that it is still too early (IMHO) in the Obama presidency to judge his character, given what he inherited coming in and the conservative Washington adviser mindset (on both the left and right) that makes it stubbornly difficult to get any sort of change done in Washington. I do still believe Obama wants a swift withdrawal from war but is constrained by political realities at home. I still distinguish between the man and the nature of the job. I hope Obama feels frustrated right now. Hopefully as time progresses he was become smarter to the process and can bring about some of that change.

If this doesn't come about (sooner rather than later) then yes my opinion of Obama will change. But unlike you I will not think it is because Obama was all this time a warmonger. Rather it will be because of what we are seeing right now: although strong in eloquence, he is a weak leader who doesn't carry around a big enough stick and doubts his own vision. I'm still giving him time to find his voice (without the teleprompt).
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl, who is a master of the obvious god bless her liberal soul, said it perfectly tonight - "How the fuck can you win a nobel peace prize when engaged in full fledged wars in Iraq and Afganistan!!!??? What the fuck!"

The committee decided that the pursuit of peace was a quality, at this juncture, more important than the realization of peace.

Also, unlike your girl, the committee distinguishes between Obama the man (earnestly pursuing peace) and Obama the president (commander in chief of two wars and constrained by realpolitik). The award goes to the man, not the president.

Controversial? Yes. Justifiable? In my humble opinion I believe so.

I completely disagree with everything you posted. You can't separate a man into parts. That's like saying Hitler (uh oh, Godwin's law invoked), the man, was peace loving, but Hitler, the dictator, was the one who committed atrocities and war against most of Europe.

A leader is the man, the man is the leader. We're not talking about actors roles here, we are talking about the Presidency of the United States.

Never read Mein Kampf? Hitler was not peace loving. He frequently talks disparagingly toward what he considered the cowardice of pacifism.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl, who is a master of the obvious god bless her liberal soul, said it perfectly tonight - "How the fuck can you win a nobel peace prize when engaged in full fledged wars in Iraq and Afganistan!!!??? What the fuck!"

The committee decided that the pursuit of peace was a quality, at this juncture, more important than the realization of peace.

Also, unlike your girl, the committee distinguishes between Obama the man (earnestly pursuing peace) and Obama the president (commander in chief of two wars and constrained by realpolitik). The award goes to the man, not the president.

Controversial? Yes. Justifiable? In my humble opinion I believe so.

With that kind of cognitive dissonance is there anything he couldn't get away with in your view? You're a pathetic weasel. Obama is presiding over two wars, both invasions in foreign lands, and for that he is not a peaceful man, he is a warmongering POS no different from Professor Shit-for-brains he took over from.


oh my, i think that is the first ive seen him called that on here. funny how the foaming at the mouth obamabots cant come to terms with that little gem of truth.

where is eskimopie?? i cant believe he hasn't squeaked his nonsense in this thread yet.

Obama has taken on celebrity status in the USA (and outside of it, I've seen people at my university in NZ wearing Obama t-shirts :roll:). People are so enamored with the man that they can't see him for what he is - more of the same.

Originally posted by: mjrpes3
My point was that it is still too early (IMHO) in the Obama presidency to judge his character, given what he inherited coming in and the conservative Washington adviser mindset (on both the left and right) that makes it stubbornly difficult to get any sort of change done in Washington. I do still believe Obama wants a swift withdrawal from war but is constrained by political realities at home.

Bullshit, he is sending more troops into Afghanistan. He is sending more American soldiers to kill and die for a war that is unjustified and possibly illegal.
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::|:|:thumbsdown::thumbsdown: etc.
 

NesuD

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He must be the antichrist! It is the only explanation that makes sense.:confused:
 

Crono

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Originally posted by: NesuD
He must be the antichrist! It is the only explanation that makes sense.:confused:

Oddly enough, the antichrist is supposed to gain control of the world (most of it) peacefully, but Obama hasn't done squat in that regard.
 

kalster

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What is the difference between a Google Wave invite and a Nobel prize? Correct. Anyone can get a Nobel