Obama will use executive order to make it EASIER to deport illegal children

[michal1980]

Odds are probably good since deportations are higher under Obama vs Bush.

when you use different/made up numbers anything is possible

 

[nehalem256]

They're fighting back in California. Blocking buses and turning them away.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...n-back-dhs-buses-carrying-illegal-immigrants/

So they are interfering with the detainment of illegal foreign invaders...

How is that not treason?

 

[sportage]

Don't get Fox-ed News-ed brain damage over this.
What Obama is doing is simply freeing up funds to take care of the situation.
And the shifting around of security people to better handle the situation.
Plus, fast tracking and return of these illegals safely back to their own country.

One would not imagine that any president would need to take executive action to do this simple no brainer task. But one would never imagine a republican party so super glued face to ass member to member and completely incompetent to handle even the simplest of matters. Which need we be reminded IS THEIR ELECTED JOB!!!

So blame Obama? Duh. Blame republicans. YES!
Anyone out there finding themselves in this situation would do the very same as this president is doing. YES, even YOU!

I just want to know... what the fuck is wrong with these republicans elected to do the peoples business?
And, how soon can we KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES OUT OF OFFICE ???

 

[dank69]

The first assumption on anything Obama says is that he is lying. It's entirely reasonable to believe that an habitual pathological liar is not telling the truth.

Meanwhile, the GOP breaks the needle off the bullshit meter on a daily basis. You are in no position to call anyone a liar.

 

[HomerJS]

And we've pointed out time after time that that is a lie. You are the voter this regime absolutely loves. Totally devoted, unable to discern the truth and uninterested in facing it. You, are Hope and Change personified.

Cause Steve Duchey told you it is??

 

[HomerJS]

when you use different/made up numbers anything is possible

Made up numbers??

 

[boomerang]

Cause Steve Duchey told you it is??

I have no clue who that is. I don't know why I am even posting this because I think it is beyond your capability to read and process but here goes.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...me-mostly-from-border-dhs-chief-say/?page=all

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson acknowledged Tuesday that his department’s deportation numbers are now mostly made up of illegal immigrants caught at the border, not just those from the interior, which means they can’t be compared one-to-one with deportations under President Bush or other prior administrations.

The administration has argued it is tougher on illegal immigration than previous presidents, and immigrant-rights groups have excoriated President Obama, calling him the “deporter-in-chief” for having kicked out nearly 2 million immigrants during his five-year tenure.

But Republican critics have argued those deportation numbers are artificially inflated because more than half of those being deported were new arrivals, caught at the border by the U.S. Border Patrol. Previous administrations primarily counted only those caught in the interior of the U.S. by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“Under the Obama administration, more than half of those removals that were attributed to ICE are actually a result of Border Patrol arrests that wouldn’t have been counted in prior administrations,” said Rep. John Culberson, Texas Republican.

“Correct,” Mr. Johnson confirmed.

That would mean that in a one-to-one comparison with the final years of the Bush administration, deportations of those same people under Mr. Obama had actually fallen, according to immigration analysts who have studied the data.

 

[PokerGuy]

Odds are probably good since deportations are higher under Obama vs Bush.

Sorry, that's incorrect, you've been duped again by your dear leader and his minions. Deportations are NOT higher. The way they count deportations was changed to make the number higher to the dumb and gullible (that's you), but actual deportations are not up.

 

[PokerGuy]

Plus, fast tracking and return of these illegals safely back to their own country.

Yah, surely that's going to happen. In other news, it's getting awfully cold in hell Get real for a moment, these illegals are not going anywhere. We've made it clear to them that if they can get here they are good to go, we will neither kick them out nor inhibit their ability to stay and work here, and they've responded exactly as you'd expect them to: they come in droves.

 

[BUnit1701]

Do you have any clue how our government works? Do you have any idea where the money would come from to "seal" the border (whatever the fuck that means)? Do you know who is responsible for telling the president what to spend money on?

Amnesty is an issue that would return this nation to a civil war? Just like it did in the 80's right? Just like it did in (pick anytime in our history)? The only people thinking that are old white guys with a small penis syndrome. Now go play around with your guns and see how long it takes you and buds to cause an accident.

Lol! Typical righty, argues a straw man because he can't address the question asked.

Don't worry Matt, I already know that you have no fucking clue how our government works, you've shown your ignorance time and time again. Now run away with your tail between your legs before someone starts calling you names and you have to tell your mom.

You mean like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006 works? The law was passed, money appropriated, and we have barely anything done. But don't worry, King Barry is here with his pen and his phone, and by golly, all our problems will be solved.

 

[nehalem256]

Made up numbers??

Even using your numbers it would appear that the number deported rose throughout the second half of the Bush administration and then plateaued once Obama took office.

So it seems pretty obvious Obama hasn't done anything to increase border security, but merely continued Bush policies.

 

[PokerGuy]

Even using your numbers it would appear that the number deported rose throughout the second half of the Bush administration and then plateaued once Obama took office.

So it seems pretty obvious Obama hasn't done anything to increase border security, but merely continued Bush policies.

Keep in mind that his numbers are complete bogus BS. They are essentially overstated by about half, the number of people actually deported (ie, using the same measure that was used prior to the dear leader changing what was reported) is actually much lower now than it was.

 

[Jhhnn]

Sorry, that's incorrect, you've been duped again by your dear leader and his minions. Deportations are NOT higher. The way they count deportations was changed to make the number higher to the dumb and gullible (that's you), but actual deportations are not up.

Link that up.

It's true that a higher % of deportations are returns rather than removals, a streamlining of process that Righties have long advocated. Well, unless Obama is doing it- then it's different-

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/obama-administration-record-deportations

Deportation is deportation whether it's removal or return.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Obama is too immigrant friendly!!

Obama is a monster for deporting immigrant children!!

 

[PokerGuy]

Deportation is deportation whether it's removal or return.

I don't care if you want to argue for including the ones seized at the border and call those "deportations" or not, but if they were not previously counted and then you add them and pretend your actual deportations have gone up is just pure lies, lapped up only by the gullible and the stupid.

If you want to include the border stops, I have no problem with it, but don't feed me this "look, deportations are up!! (but only because we changed how we count)" crap. If you look at the number of deportations, and realize that roughly half of them are the kind that previously would not have been included in the numbers, then it has to mean that deportations based on the old method of counting are down from where they were.

 

[ivwshane]

You mean like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006 works? The law was passed, money appropriated, and we have barely anything done. But don't worry, King Barry is here with his pen and his phone, and by golly, all our problems will be solved.

Lol! Did you read your own link? Not only has it been completed, congress authorized more fences to be built, guess how effective it was?

 

[BUnit1701]

Did you?

"... by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers."
"Since construction of the wall began “apprehensions, a rough proxy for measuring illegal crossings, were down 18% at the southern border in 2008 and Border Patrol attributes some of that to the fence. But a report in May 2009 by the Congressional Research Service found "strong indication" that illegal crossers had simply found new routes.”
"...Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers..."

So, A) 613 < 700
B) they didn't cross where we had fence/walls. Amazing. One could reasonably conclude that if we had fence/wall along the entire length, there would be a significant effect.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't care if you want to argue for including the ones seized at the border and call those "deportations" or not, but if they were not previously counted and then you add them and pretend your actual deportations have gone up is just pure lies, lapped up only by the gullible and the stupid.

If you want to include the border stops, I have no problem with it, but don't feed me this "look, deportations are up!! (but only because we changed how we count)" crap. If you look at the number of deportations, and realize that roughly half of them are the kind that previously would not have been included in the numbers, then it has to mean that deportations based on the old method of counting are down from where they were.

Yes, you already told us what you believe. When challenged to show proof that it's rational, even confronted with contrary evidence, you merely recite the rosary, again.

What you assert certainly has the ring of truthiness, I'll grant you that.

 

[ivwshane]

Did you?

"... by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers."
"Since construction of the wall began “apprehensions, a rough proxy for measuring illegal crossings, were down 18% at the southern border in 2008 and Border Patrol attributes some of that to the fence. But a report in May 2009 by the Congressional Research Service found "strong indication" that illegal crossers had simply found new routes.”
"...Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers..."

So, A) 613 < 700
B) they didn't cross where we had fence/walls. Amazing. One could reasonably conclude that if we had fence/wall along the entire length, there would be a significant effect.

Let me spell it out for you, shit for brains; Obama cannot simply erect more fencing without money congress has specifically set aside to do so. Not only that but fences don't stop tunnels, nor do they stop people who enter legally whose visas then expire...ie when there is a will there is a way.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Obama is too ILLEGAL immigrant friendly!!

Obama is a monster for deporting ILLEGAL immigrant children!!

FTFY

 

[Oldgamer]

I was watching buses bringing immigrants (mostly children) in to Texas to be processed and there were huge protesters who spit on them, and blocked some of the buses. Not one protester was arrested. The buses had to turn around and go to a different location. I am amazed that the police and the public officials pick and choose who to arrest and harass in these circumstances. If these were OWS protesters or Pro-Choice Protesters I guarantee you they would have arrested these folks for impeding the officers from doing their job and blocking the road way and entrance way.

 

[michal1980]

I was watching buses bringing immigrants (mostly children) in to Texas to be processed and there were huge protesters who spit on them, and blocked some of the buses. Not one protester was arrested. The buses had to turn around and go to a different location. I am amazed that the police and the public officials pick and choose who to arrest and harass in these circumstances. If these were OWS protesters or Pro-Choice Protesters I guarantee you they would have arrested these folks for impeding the officers from doing their job and blocking the road way and entrance way.

why to sping the story.


One guy was spat on, and he wasn't part of the illegals.

If the government can get them on a bus, why can it take that bus right across the boarder.
Why do they need to be let go in the USA at all?

 

[soundforbjt]

why to sping the story.


One guy was spat on, and he wasn't part of the illegals.

If the government can get them on a bus, why can it take that bus right across the boarder.
Why do they need to be let go in the USA at all?

Because, if you were paying attention, they're NOT from Mexico!!!

 

[Jaskalas]

Federal Gov’t Sues Wisconsin Company, Says English-Language Requirement is 'Discrimination'

Existential Threat. To support the illegals, Federal Government is now fighting to enforce multilingual workplaces. Want employment in the United States? Better write and speak Spanish.

 

[michal1980]

Because, if you were paying attention, they're NOT from Mexico!!!

So?

Let mexico kick them out further down.

Or, just take that bus to wherever they're from and drop them off.