Obama Will Endorse U.N. Gay Rights Declaration

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Good, people needs basic human rights. Two gay people marrying in now way affects me or is any of my business.

"Some Islamic countries said at the time that protecting sexual orientation could lead to "the social normalization and possibly the legalization of deplorable acts" such as pedophilia and incest."

lol that is so ridiculous

Using this logic, what Josef Fritzl did should be legal too. Since his actions, you know, didnt affect me or you...

Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Good, people needs basic human rights. Two gay people marrying in now way affects me or is any of my business.

"Some Islamic countries said at the time that protecting sexual orientation could lead to "the social normalization and possibly the legalization of deplorable acts" such as pedophilia and incest."

lol that is so ridiculous

Using this logic, what Josef Fritzl did should be legal too. Since his actions, you know, didnt affect me or you...

Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

So if that guy's daughter had given consent, we have no argument against his actions?

 

[SAWYER]

So are you equating gays choice to be together and incest?

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

So if that guy's daughter had given consent, we have no argument against his actions?

Was she an adult?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Good, people needs basic human rights. Two gay people marrying in now way affects me or is any of my business.

"Some Islamic countries said at the time that protecting sexual orientation could lead to "the social normalization and possibly the legalization of deplorable acts" such as pedophilia and incest."

lol that is so ridiculous

Funny how republicans have the same talking points as some Islamic countries. :laugh:

I noticed that too! Hmmm...

But on topic, I think this is a great first start. No country should criminalize sexuality or sexual orientation. I think picking and choosing who deserves (or doesn't deserve) certain human rights is a short walk down a dark path.

No country should tell another country what they can and cant do.

What are you talking about? We do it all the time.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Sure, if you want. My real point was to illustrate that similarities in talking points don't indicate unity between two groups. Republicans, because they oppose gay marriage, aren't on the same level as Muslims, because Republicans aren't in favor of executing them. Similarly, Democrats, just because they prefer government ownership of some things, aren't on the same level of socialism as the former Soviet Union.

The posters here aren't stupid. They know this is obvious. But they are childish.

It was an analogy.

Not all Islamic countries favor executing gays. A few do, but the majority merely outlaw it.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Sawyer
So are you equating gays choice to be together and incest?

If all parties give consent, whats the problem? Age/gender doesnt really matter.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

So if that guy's daughter had given consent, we have no argument against his actions?

Was she an adult?

Yes. And had 7 children with her.

 

[SAWYER]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sawyer
So are you equating gays choice to be together and incest?

If all parties give consent, whats the problem? Age/gender doesnt really matter.

You are not answering the question. And my issue with it is if kids are born then that would be the problem. If a bro and sis want to bang, have at it

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Those of you who oppose this move by Obama should try moving to an Islamic nation; they love homophobia, and are opposed to this declaration.

[/quote]

Or Jamaica

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: blackangst1


No country should tell another country what they can and cant do.

Are you sure about that? That could be taken as you wouldn't mind Iran developing nuclear power.

 

[RKDaley]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

So if that guy's daughter had given consent, we have no argument against his actions?

Was she an adult?

Yes. And had 7 children with her.

That was not consensual. He imprisoned her in a downstairs basement under an apt. building for about 24years. She could not leave and she says he raped her.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Sawyer

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sawyer
So are you equating gays choice to be together and incest?

If all parties give consent, whats the problem? Age/gender doesnt really matter.

You are not answering the question. And my issue with it is if kids are born then that would be the problem. If a bro and sis want to bang, have at it

Well, theyre different issues, so not equal. Same church different pew if you will.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dawp

Originally posted by: blackangst1


No country should tell another country what they can and cant do.

Are you sure about that? That could be taken as you wouldn't mind Iran developing nuclear power.

Nope I wouldnt. Isreal would take care them before we would need to.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: RKDaley

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Consensual homosexual unions are exactly the same as imprisoning someone and raping them for 24 years. Identical. Completely.

You missed the point. So many people use the reason "It doesnt affect me, so go for it", which is kind of a bullshit excuse.

OK, but you could have easily replaced "it doesn't affect me" with "it doesn't affect anyone outside of the couple," and the meaning would be identical. There's no need to be intentionally obtuse when you knew exactly what he meant; consensual relationships should not be a crime.

So if that guy's daughter had given consent, we have no argument against his actions?

Was she an adult?

Yes. And had 7 children with her.

That was not consensual. He imprisoned her in a downstairs basement under an apt. building for about 24years. She could not leave and she says he raped her.

I was just answering the question. Im aware of the details.