You say in the first sentence you're not stating your opinion on the justification of the attack, and then you call it unjust in the very next sentence!
You say in the first sentence you're not stating your opinion on the justification of the attack, and then you call it unjust in the very next sentence!
feralkid
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CADsortaGUY
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Evil? He's talking about total war <google it> and it's a proven doctrine. Was Sherman evil? Or MacArthur or Eisenhower? One thoery is you kill a lot more up front so you don't have perpetual warfare. Sherman talked about the humanitarianism of scorched earth in his writings.
Neither MacArthur nor Eisenhower behaved in the same way as Sherman did, and what Sherman did would almost certainly be considered a war crime today.
palehorse
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There was nothing "unjust" about this particular attack, you twit, so make up your mind.
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You think Craig is a twit? I don't think you think that you've been here long enough so what's up with that? JMO the level is discourse in this forum has taken a turn for the worse since I came back.
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The whole point that palehorse ignores is that we would not tolerate the tactic we use in Iraq and Afghanistan inside of the USA.
To some extent we had sneak previews with Ruby Ridge and with the Branch Dividians in Waco. Both were total botches and if I had my druthers quite a few Federal agents would be already convicted for murder and serving long prison sentences as I write this.
The point being if we in the USA have the brains to realize it stinks on US domestic soil, why should we think its acceptable anywhere else?
To some extent we had sneak previews with Ruby Ridge and with the Branch Dividians in Waco. Both were total botches and if I had my druthers quite a few Federal agents would be already convicted for murder and serving long prison sentences as I write this.
The point being if we in the USA have the brains to realize it stinks on US domestic soil, why should we think its acceptable anywhere else?
Yes, amazing, isn't it. The low testosterone levels the right are experiencing from their election defeats has added shrunken balls to their usual shrunken brains. The combo is quite a psychotic delight to be hold. The little snap dragons have all become one or another form of pansies.
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Everything these days is considered 'war crimes'. That is the weakness infecting this country. We no longer have the capacity to make war upon our enemies. All we do is skirmish. There is no hope of victory in either Iraq or Afghanistan, and it is our weakness that is to blame. These attacks in Yemen are the same; the are a waste of time, money, and effort. Why do we even bother if we aren't willing to do what is necessary to win?
As I've said before, you have a child's understanding of warfare. The purpose of war is not the destruction of the enemy, its purpose is to achieve the best possible outcome for your country.
Once you get out of your parents' house and learn that warfare is a lot more complicated than the Michael Bay movies you've seen, you'll understand why 'BLOW THEM UP MORE' isn't actually sound strategy.
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I know you meant that seriously but I'm laughing my ass off. People trying to explain why the liberals are always right without admitting it has anything to do with liberalism are SO funny.
What are you talking about? My post had literally zero to do with liberalism or conservatism. Project much?
I wonder.
I somehow doubt this is necessarily a child living at home whose upper stupidity is a product of inexperience and insulation from reality. I am inclined to visualize a product of a severely harsh childhood in which violence was the method of choice for discipline, a person who had his humanity beaten out of him early, a victim who now seeks victims to replicate his training on.
I see the usual mental illness of violence and hate transmitted down the generations from parents to child via mentally ill families.
Here I would have to agree. I also found possum's post to be nothing but mumbo jumbo, the product of someone who feels he sees something but doesn't know how to articulate what it is. It seems he has some vague notion that he has seen something and it's funny to him, but he really can't explain what it is because there is really nothing there that can be rationally explained.
He said during the election that he would do things like this. Some of you must not have been paying attention.
palehorse
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But, to answer your question, yes, I do think Craig is a far-left twit who has no idea how to reconcile his pacifist mindset with his support for Obama. It's as though each of the drone attacks comes as a surprise to him, and he is torn between condemning his messiah and burning him on a stake. His posts bounce all around that dilemma like a pinball.
I wholeheartedly support Obama's attacks on terrorists everywhere they choose to hide; and, his promise to continue doing so was actually one of the main reasons I voted for him.
I support this attack in Yemen, and I'll support every other that places a violent terrorist in the bullseye. Kill 'em all.
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Oh? Is that so, eskimospy? The last war we actually won was WW2 and we did just that, we destroyed the enemy completely, and it was the best possible outcome for this country. We have weakened our selves steadily after that, and we have not had a decisive victory since. The last two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are proof of this. We are currently using the foolish strategy of winning hearts and minds, and it is failing miserably. Everyone knows this.
Please go learn what an insurgency is. Once you do that you'll understand why our current wars and WW2 are nothing alike. We demolished Iraq's army to a similar extent that Germany's army was destroyed. By all means though, lay out your strategy for how you think we should conduct our wars. I could use a good laugh.
Once you learn some more about how the real world outside your parents' house works, you'll realize how dumb what you're writing is. Everyone knows this.
(It cannot be denied)But the populace wasn't as demoralized as the German populace was, so when our forces rolled through those towns and occupied them, there was no remaining will to fight.
On the other hand, when we rolled through those towns, there was a Front, and The Rear (for the most part). In Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, there's the ground your standing on as The Rear, the rest is The Front.
We fought WWII different than the present three in multiple ways...some good, some bad; good and bad also has different viewpoints.
Chuck
On the other hand, when we rolled through those towns, there was a Front, and The Rear (for the most part). In Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, there's the ground your standing on as The Rear, the rest is The Front.
We fought WWII different than the present three in multiple ways...some good, some bad; good and bad also has different viewpoints.
Chuck
So liberals didn't like that suspected terrorists were being kept in Guantanamo Bay by Bush, but it's OK for Obama to be the judge, jury, and executioner of suspected terrorist in Yemen.
No. First question is why is it 'liberals' that are somehow against indefinite detention without trial? I would hope that 'Americans' would be against such an egregious violation of our Constitution.
A police officer sometimes has the right to kill someone if they have no other means by which to stop someone who they strongly believe to be about to commit a serious crime. A police officer NEVER has the right to kill someone as they sit in a jail cell alone. Once you get the difference between the two, you'll understand this.
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