Obama - the obsession

[Hayabusa Rider]

The amount of Obama threads isn't what is impressive. What is impressive are the amount of Obama threads based upon nothing but BS and complete fabrications.

Well why should Obama threads be any different than a great many other?

 

[MongGrel]

This video explains it better than words can:
Kramer - El Presidente

When things are going great, nobody cares who the leader is. When everything is wrong, everybody blames the leader. Right now polls show Obama is the worst president since WW2 - that means people are generally unhappy right now. Before that, Bush was the worst president since WW2 (why does everything stop at WW2?). What do the two have in common? Aside from both being war mongers owned by corporations, both were the leader during periods of economic stagnation/contraction. Before that, who was the "worst" president since WW2? Jimmy Carter. Why? It's because he was the leader while the economy was drowning in stagflation.

It's all about economics.

+1

 

[dainthomas]

Same thing was going on during Bush years. Conservatives hate admitting they're just as big crackpots as liberals then.

 

[Spungo]

Obama gone ruined the economy:

And who owns stocks? The top 1%. Now you know who Obama and Reagan are really working for.

Even democrats are sick of Obama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/19/us-usa-politics-obama-idUSKCN0I80V320141019

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama made a rare appearance on the campaign trail on Sunday with a rally to support the Democratic candidate for governor in Maryland, but early departures of crowd members while he spoke underscored his continuing unpopularity.
...
A steady stream of people walked out of the auditorium while he spoke, however, and a heckler interrupted his remarks.

 

[Matt1970]

My opinion is that in general Presidents get too much credit AND blame for the economy, but if one want's to know how people are doing I'd suggest looking at median income rather than some Obama vs. Regan S&P chart.

Yep. Too much blame for shit he had no control over and even for stuff he wasn't around when it happened, but also too much credit for accomplishments that were also out of his control.

 

[senseamp]

A "ruined" country doesn't have it's stock market index double. People just don't value companies in a country after it has been "ruined" at twice (adjusted for inflation) as much as in a country before it has been "ruined."

 

[sportage]

Yeah, way too much Obama around her. Way too much.
Obama, boob's and penis's. Penis's, boob's and Obama.
Over and over. Night and day. 24/7.
No wonder we spend so much time doing this.

 

[senseamp]

And who owns stocks? The top 1%. Now you know who Obama and Reagan are really working for.

Even democrats are sick of Obama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/19/us-usa-politics-obama-idUSKCN0I80V320141019

If inequality is your metric, the country was ruined by Reagan, because that's when this trend began.

If your metric is attendance at Obama speeches, well, then we are debating in orthogonal planes.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I'm not fishing for anything, but I think the race is part of the equation. Not for all of course, but atleast for quite many. I say this as someone who does NOT think racism is the entire reason for the so many issues in the African American community.

My cousin told me the other day that one of his colleagues says that they should rename the White House to Black House. That kinda leaves me speechless, though not entirely surprised

And when Clinton was president he was a drug dealer, Hillary and Bill were murderers (Vince Foster and assorted others), Chelsea was the child of Hillary and Webb Hubbell, Hilary and Janet Reno were lovers, and on and on and on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Chronicles

Obama's skin colour was just a 'bonus' to the more rabid anti Democratic Party types in the US. I believe that any Democratic president would face pretty much the same crap.

 

[squarecut1]

This video explains it better than words can:
Kramer - El Presidente

When things are going great, nobody cares who the leader is. When everything is wrong, everybody blames the leader. Right now polls show Obama is the worst president since WW2 - that means people are generally unhappy right now. Before that, Bush was the worst president since WW2 (why does everything stop at WW2?). What do the two have in common? Aside from both being war mongers owned by corporations, both were the leader during periods of economic stagnation/contraction. Before that, who was the "worst" president since WW2? Jimmy Carter. Why? It's because he was the leader while the economy was drowning in stagflation.

It's all about economics.

Good post. However I'd say it is more than economics.

America has been undergoing significant cultural and demographic changes of late. In a relatively short amount of time, there is acceptance of homosexuality / gay marriage. The major cities and even some not so major ones have become very diverse. Many other changes.

People see all that around them and ofcourse Obama being the first non white person to hold the Presidency in almost 250 years adds to that fear and anxiety. He thus becomes target for all sorts of things and frustrations, including of course economic ones.

America is changing, and change always causes anxiety. It is human nature.

 

[LegendKiller]

A "ruined" country doesn't have it's stock market index double. People just don't value companies in a country after it has been "ruined" at twice (adjusted for inflation) as much as in a country before it has been "ruined."

lol, you don't get it. The stock market doubling

1. From a low point.

2. Aided, tremendously, by share repurchases funded by cheap debt due to the Fed depressing interest rates by sucking a huge amount of assets out of the debt market.

 

[senseamp]

lol, you don't get it. The stock market doubling

1. From a low point.

2. Aided, tremendously, by share repurchases funded by cheap debt due to the Fed depressing interest rates by sucking a huge amount of assets out of the debt market.

LOL, you don't get it.

1. If Obama "ruined" America, his entry into the White House would not be the low point of the market.

2. Adjusted for inflation.

 

[Spungo]

A "ruined" country doesn't have it's stock market index double.

Oh?

Notice how total economic collapse caused Germany's stock market, measured in US dollars, to double.


A more recent example, here's Japan's stock market:

All of this is happening while Japan is collapsing.
Japan sees record trade deficits. Making your currency worthless causes import costs to explode? Surely, nobody could have predicted this.


And here's Argentina's stock market. Argentina is so broke that they recently defaulted on some debts.

Declining wages in combination with rising asset prices are the reason home ownership is at a 19 year low. People are really pissed off, and they direct that anger at Obama. They should really be directing that anger toward the federal reserve. Obama doesn't make the cost of housing go up exponentially. The fed does.

 

[Jaskalas]

Declining wages in combination with rising asset prices are the reason home ownership is at a 19 year low. People are really pissed off, and they direct that anger at Obama. They should really be directing that anger toward the federal reserve. Obama doesn't make the cost of housing go up exponentially. The fed does.

People want a savior. They want a solution. They want a leader who will oppose Wall Street and throw out the crony capitalists who act as leeches to destroy this country. The bailouts proved a simple thing - Obama is their man, just as Bush was. He is not one of us - he is one of them. He facilitates the Fed. Just as Congress does.

Maybe what's really upsetting the people is that their government is bought and paid for and no one is actually leading it towards prosperity. Our leaders are throwing us off a cliff.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Fear of what though? Does he have horns on his head? Does he have some special powers to do things on his own without the usual checks and balances of the law? I just don't get it

There is no logic to what people are afraid of. And most on these forums are so wrought with fear, they have no idea what they are criticizing Obama for - just that they are lashing out because they are afraid of him.

The latest and greatest (on these forums) is that Obama should be held responsible for what occurs on the battlefield - i.e. ISIS go it's hands on a US weapons drop and Obama is responsible for that. Yet, Obama gets no credit for the assassination of Osama Bin Ladin. There is a fundamental contradiction to this - and, it just serves one purpose; bash that which I am afraid of - the president.

By all means, criticize the president (I have), but when double standards, hypocritical views and just good old fashioned hur dur dur rule most of the criticize towards the president, it just means they really don't have much of anything against him,.. except fear.

This fear comes from a conservatives defective and alarmist mind. So, it's not really the president, it the group of people who constantly view most things as a danger and proceed to raise warnings, alarms, sensationalism, etc.

 

[boomerang]

The level of obsession with Obama in America is unlike that of any other Presidents as far as I can tell.

People do have a fascination with train wrecks.

President Doofus

 

[Matt1970]

People want a savior. They want a solution. They want a leader who will oppose Wall Street and throw out the crony capitalists who act as leeches to destroy this country. The bailouts proved a simple thing - Obama is their man, just as Bush was. He is not one of us - he is one of them. He facilitates the Fed. Just as Congress does.

Maybe what's really upsetting the people is that their government is bought and paid for and no one is actually leading it towards prosperity. Our leaders are throwing us off a cliff.

Odds are anyone running for the job isn't one of us regardless of party affiliation.

 

[michal1980]

There is no logic to what people are afraid of. And most on these forums are so wrought with fear, they have no idea what they are criticizing Obama for - just that they are lashing out because they are afraid of him.

The latest and greatest (on these forums) is that Obama should be held responsible for what occurs on the battlefield - i.e. ISIS go it's hands on a US weapons drop and Obama is responsible for that. Yet, Obama gets no credit for the assassination of Osama Bin Ladin. There is a fundamental contradiction to this - and, it just serves one purpose; bash that which I am afraid of - the president.

By all means, criticize the president (I have), but when double standards, hypocritical views and just good old fashioned hur dur dur rule most of the criticize towards the president, it just means they really don't have much of anything against him,.. except fear.

This fear comes from a conservatives defective and alarmist mind. So, it's not really the president, it the group of people who constantly view most things as a danger and proceed to raise warnings, alarms, sensationalism, etc.

as opposed to the left that will give Obama credit for Osama, but a pass on giving weapons to ISIS.

No double standard from the left, none at all.


The only defective brain is yours moonbeam 1.1

 

[Genx87]

So I did a search of "Obama" in the thread titles of this forum. The result reached the max limit of 500 - and that goes back only upto June 26th, 2012! So you can well imagine the actual number of Obama threads. And ofcourse this isn't just about this forum.

Yes sure he is the President and all, so will be discussed a lot. But there is a massive obsession with the guy for some reason, beyond reason. I mean it is to the point that if my bicycle tire is out of air, it is Obama's fault!

I am not defending him. I do not particularly care for him, and did not vote for him in either of the two elections. But I fail to comprehend the level of obsession with him out there. Is he the most obsessed about President in the history of this country? What drives this?

Thoughts?

He is the president. This is a politics forum. And you wonder why so many threads about him? Go search Bush and see how many hits you get.

 

[Genx87]

Too early for Obama Derangement Syndrome?

I think this is about the time in the Bush presidency Bush Derangement Syndrome was diagnosed.

 

[Texashiker]

A "ruined" country doesn't have it's stock market index double. People just don't value companies in a country after it has been "ruined" at twice (adjusted for inflation) as much as in a country before it has been "ruined."

Look at the amount of income inequality we have. Take apple, their offices are here, but their production is in china.

The US is well on its way to becoming a ruined nation. We have a record amount of people on welfare, while at the same time we have a record amount of income inequality.

I am not defending him. I do not particularly care for him, and did not vote for him in either of the two elections. But I fail to comprehend the level of obsession with him out there. Is he the most obsessed about President in the history of this country? What drives this?

Thoughts?

Obama is a liar. He makes promises his ass can not deliver. I am still waiting on my health insurance that cost as much as a cell phone bill.

Jobs? If obama wanted to turn the economy around end free trade with china.

How much do we "really" know about obama? He was born in Hawaii and raised in various nations. How much time did he spend here in the states?

What life experiences does he share with the people he represents?

 

[fskimospy]

Declining wages in combination with rising asset prices are the reason home ownership is at a 19 year low. People are really pissed off, and they direct that anger at Obama. They should really be directing that anger toward the federal reserve. Obama doesn't make the cost of housing go up exponentially. The fed does.

Guy, I think your posting history has abundantly proved that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the federal reserve.

I find it funny that you're complaining about income inequality when in previous threads you wanted to raise interest rates because it would put more money in the pockets of people who lived on interest income. Interest income is overwhelmingly concentrated not simply in the 1%, but in the .1%.

 

[atheistpally]

The right hates Obama because they're racist - plain and simple. Of course they won't admit it though.

I hate Obama because he didn't turn out to be the socialist he campaigned as. He'a just another puppet for the rich.

 

[Jhhnn]

Look at the amount of income inequality we have. Take apple, their offices are here, but their production is in china.

The US is well on its way to becoming a ruined nation. We have a record amount of people on welfare, while at the same time we have a record amount of income inequality.




Obama is a liar. He makes promises his ass can not deliver. I am still waiting on my health insurance that cost as much as a cell phone bill.

Jobs? If obama wanted to turn the economy around end free trade with china.

How much do we "really" know about obama? He was born in Hawaii and raised in various nations. How much time did he spend here in the states?

What life experiences does he share with the people he represents?

How many ways can you try to identify Obama as "Other" to justify your fear?

If you really wanted answers to those questions, you'd already know them. You don't, obviously. You just want somebody to blame other than yourself & your fellow "conservative" travelers.

 

[Jhhnn]

Guy, I think your posting history has abundantly proved that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the federal reserve.

I find it funny that you're complaining about income inequality when in previous threads you wanted to raise interest rates because it would put more money in the pockets of people who lived on interest income. Interest income is overwhelmingly concentrated not simply in the 1%, but in the .1%.

Facts have no bearing on the formulation of "conservative" opinion.