Obama Tax Cuts~VS~Bush Tax Cuts

[Ozoned]

I guarantee that if your household income is about $500,000 you aren't eligible for the Making Work Pay tax credit.

Ayup, I kinda covered that earlier in the thread

I didn't make anywhere near $500,000.

The "6 & a 1/2" thing really doesn't need to be figured out. It was written while in an altered state of mind brought on by the celebration that I indulged in when I became aware of the effects of Obama's Tax cuts. I suppose we have one more year of the same. When the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010, and the Obama tax hikes kick in, it will be a different story.

 

[wiretap]

You're telling me the state can't write laws giving itself more power by telling me they need to have a meeting in order to give themselves more power?

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No piece of paper or procedure negates the fact that they shouldn't be able to exercise powers that individuals never gave to them.

Bill Richardson on Government and Rights (with Jan Helfeld)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAY_hHGKL4M

Senator Bernie Sanders On Government and Rights (with Jan Helfeld)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I

The individual STATES have the ability to do things not granted in the Constitution in the enumerated powers, but they cannot breach any rights of the people and violate the Constitution. That's what the 9th and 10th amendment were written for. Originally we were talking about the federal government. State/local government is completely different than federal government.

 

[werepossum]

No they can't. They have enumerated powers granted to them.. in order to add to or change those, they need an amendment processes via constitutional convention.

Here's the enumerated powers they have:

Dude, that is SO twentieth century. We're now in the Enlightened Age where government is blissfully unimpaired by the shackles of dead rich white men.

 

[QuantumPion]

oops double post.

 

[QuantumPion]

No they can't. They have enumerated powers granted to them.. in order to add to or change those, they need an amendment processes via constitutional convention.

Actually they do have unlimited power, because "To regulate commerce with ... the several states" means this:

The Supreme Court, interpreting the United States Constitution's Commerce Clause (which permits the United States Congress to "regulate Commerce . . . among the several States") decided that, because Filburn's wheat growing activities reduced the amount of wheat he would buy for chicken feed on the open market, and because wheat was traded nationally, Filburn's production of more wheat than he was allotted was affecting interstate commerce, and so could be regulated by the federal government.

Basically, anything anyone does EVER can be related to interstate commerce, and thus under the power of congress to regulate.

 

[wiretap]

Regulate commerce does not mean you can force someone to buy a product. The powers are not unlimited.

Also, Supreme Court cases are not legislation. Each instance regarding Constitutionality is on a case by case basis.

 

[tk149]

Regulate commerce does not mean you can force someone to buy a product. The powers are not unlimited.

Also, Supreme Court cases are not legislation. Each instance regarding Constitutionality is on a case by case basis.

Umm...mandatory Healthcare?

Wickard v. Filburn killed the Constitution.

 

[wiretap]

Duh.