Obama suspends deliver of bunker-buster bombs to Israel, guts Iranian sanctions bill

[Noobtastic]

Edit: Perhaps I should made the poll less ambiguous.

If you answer YES, it means you believe Obama is "tough" on Israel. If you answer NO, it means you disagree with Obama's "toughness."

I could see how some might argue Obama's approach is too lenient, and thus select "no."


delivery*

Shortly after Vice President Joe Biden's Israel visit ended on March 11 in high dudgeon over the approval 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem, US president Barack Obama ordered a consignment of Joint Direct Attack Munition- JDAM already on its way to Israel to be diverted to the US Air Force base on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia. This step, the pointer to a US arms embargo for preventing Israel attacking Iran's nuclear sites, is first revealed here by debkafile's military sources.
US military sources describe the consignment as consisting of 387 JDAM kits for attachment to the warheads of 2,000-pound BLU-109/MK-84 or the 1,000-pound BLU-110/MK-83 bunker-busters for their conversion into smart bombs.


On March 13, debkafile disclosed that the Obama administration was pondering withholding from Israel military hardware that could be used for an Israeli attack on Iran. In late February, we reported that defense minister Ehud Barak had submitted to defense secretary Robert Gates a list of the items Israel required urgently to stand up to a four-front assault by Iran and its allies - mainly air force ordnance, certain types of missile and advanced electronic devices. Barak made it clear that all these items must be present in Israel before the outbreak of hostilities. The requests were so urgent that the minister proposed that if Washington was reluctant to hand them directly to Israel, they could be stored for the interim in the big American emergency depots in Israel's Negev.


The 387 DJAP kits were due for delivery at one of the Israeli Air Force's Negev bases in March. Because of his concern over the US president's step to divert the shipment, prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu decided to take the defense minister with him to Washington next Monday, March 22 and have him present at the meeting with Obama which the US media reports has been fixed for Tuesday (the day after his address to the AIPAC annual conference). Together they will ask for the delayed munitions to be released and handed over as part of any general understandings they may reach.

Now I understand Obama's decision to make such a fuss over a preliminary announcement of construction in Jerusalem (which was known months before it happened). Obama figures his decision to hold off on shipping bunker-buster kits will seem more like a fair and just punishment for Israel's "misbehavior" rather than part of the general appeasement foreign policy established a year ago.

Doesn't it make sense? Had Obama not picked a fight with Israel over Jerusalem, delaying weapons capable of destroying Iranian nuclear facilities would be a direct violation of promises made 6 months ago and it might embarrass Obama in the media.

But now Israel deserves it, right? At least that's how the media will paint it.

This is my theory. It seems reasonable since Obama's outrage over Israel's decision looked a little too pre-planned. It must have been part of a greater foreign policy strategy developed long ago.

Multiple congressional aides tell The Cable that pressure is mounting for Congress to move forward with its conference to iron out differences between the House and Senate versions of the Iran sanctions legislation, after the French Foreign Minister said that a U.N. Security Council resolution might not surface until June.

The original idea was to finalize the U.S. sanctions legislation only after the U.N. has its say, but the continued delays in New York have put that plan into question. While lawmakers want to give the administration space to line up the necessary support at the Security Council, their patience is wearing thin.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/03/17/full_steam_ahead_on_iran_sanctions_bill

The most comprehensive Iranian sanctions bill has been approved in Congress, but Obama is trying to strip clauses that prohibit trading between Iran-China/Russia/etc...

Such an action would compromise the overall impact of the sanctions and essentially nullify its purpose. Iran's leadership and economy would remain unharmed.

Rather interesting for President that promised "firm" and "steadfast" negotiations with Iran. Can't say I'm surprised.

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Original thread direction has not been followed up on, but the usual Israel vs Palestinian argument has ensued.

 

[sandorski]

Perhaps Israel will realize that it doesn't have a blank Cheque anymore.

 

[theflyingpig]

lol. You think the US is going to stop supporting Israel? You are a fool. The bombs will go to Israel, of that there is no doubt. You see, this administration will publicly condemn the Israelis actions to appease the fools, while at the same time secretly supporting Israel. What amazes me is that so many here fail to realize this simple truth. Are you all blind?

 

[flavio]

You are a fool. The bombs will go to Israel, of that there is no doubt.

*citation needed.

 

[Danube]

The US won't stop supporting Isreal but Slim Shady has. He does everything 180 degrees from what is wise. Just figure out what is best positions for US and it's allies and Alinsky-head does 180 degrees.

 

[Zebo]

You're only telling half of it Obama has banned pretty much all arms sales to Israel since taking power while selling like crazy to fanatics around them. That's okay though nukes work better anyway.

Do your research e.g. Obama blocks sale of 6 AH-64D helicopters to Israel while approving 12 to Egypt and so on.

 

[Noobtastic]

You're only telling half of it Obama has banned pretty much all arms sales to Israel since taking power while selling like crazy to fanatics around them. That's okay though nukes work better anyway.

Do your research e.g. Obama blocks sale of 6 AH-64D helicopters to Israel while approving 12 to Egypt and so on.

I did not know that. I never thought Obama had the balls to do such a thing while simotanously claiming his support for Israel.

From my research, administration aids says the decision is based on "concerns for Palestinian civilians."

If Obama knew anything, he'd know Israel wrote the book on dealing with terrorists who embed themselves among civilians, and virtually all of air-ground based tactics were DEVELOPED by the IAF and then adopted by every other Western military.

This is why the israeli/pal has the lowest civilian/combatant ratio in the world. US military stole IDF code-book in their air war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But of course, what's good for the USA is bad for Israel. We can kill thousands with apaches but Israel can't.

lol. You think the US is going to stop supporting Israel? You are a fool. The bombs will go to Israel, of that there is no doubt. You see, this administration will publicly condemn the Israelis actions to appease the fools, while at the same time secretly supporting Israel. What amazes me is that so many here fail to realize this simple truth. Are you all blind?

If US was so supportive of Israel why don't we send troops there? Where was the US military in Yom Kippur? Why did Bush deny Israel's request to strike Iran? Why has every administration from Carter to Obama at one point or another denied weapons shipments to Israel?

Reagen punished Israel for Lebanon 1, Bush denied aid because of settlements, Bush 2 punished Israel for refusing to bogus PLO pre-conditions, and Obama is harassing Israel over Jewish shopping malls in Jerusalem and now has denied several weapons requests.

As far as I can, we give Israel just enough for it to be secure, but not enough so it could destroy its enemies.

Because that would be bad for oil.

This is very unique to Israel. Never has the USA government ever intervened with defense industry in denying weapons to allies - whether they be Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc.

I'd much rather Israel receive 0 dollars and be allowed to purchase all the weapons to its hearts content, rather than receive aid and have it be extorted by our administration to protect Arab dictatorships and their oil.

Obama has exposed himself as the far-leftist fuck he is and we will all pay for it.

 

[Zebo]

lol. You think the US is going to stop supporting Israel? You are a fool. The bombs will go to Israel, of that there is no doubt. You see, this administration will publicly condemn the Israelis actions to appease the fools, while at the same time secretly supporting Israel. What amazes me is that so many here fail to realize this simple truth. Are you all blind?

You're wrong. In another thread I documented how Obama is standing against the world's democracies in general, in order to prostrate himself before the world's dictators, fanatics and tyrants. Israel is just one example.

He's a typical liberal believing we can all just get along when in fact there are tons of MF's who would like nothing better than cutting off your head like this Thai solider in Thailand today. http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=3813

Warning graphic. I have thousands of these from Religion of Peace.

 

[Noobtastic]

You're wrong. In another thread I documented how Obama is standing against the world's democracies in general, in order to prostrate himself before the world's dictators, fanatics and tyrants. Israel is just one example.

He's a typical liberal believing we can all just get along when in fact there are tons of MF's who would like nothing better than cutting off your head like this Thai solider in Thailand today. http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=3813

Warning graphic. I have thousands of these from Religion of Peace.

offensive.

I'd like to see Obama condemn the Islamic states for these acts of violence.

 

[theflyingpig]

You're wrong. In another thread I documented how Obama is standing against the world's democracies in general, in order to prostrate himself before the world's dictators, fanatics and tyrants. Israel is just one example.

He's a typical liberal believing we can all just get along when in fact there are tons of MF's who would like nothing better than cutting off your head like this Thai solider in Thailand today. http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=3813

Warning graphic. I have thousands of these from Religion of Peace.

Hmm. Perhaps it is I who have been blinded. Blinded by my optimism that this administration would do the right thing. I need to look into this matter, and re-evaluate my position.

 

[flavio]

The US won't stop supporting Isreal but Slim Shady has. He does everything 180 degrees from what is wise. Just figure out what is best positions for US and it's allies and Alinsky-head does 180 degrees.

What would be wise would be wise for the US would be to cut off lot of aid to Israel and pressure them to act right. This may be a good start but more is needed.

 

[flavio]

Do your research e.g. Obama blocks sale of 6 AH-64D helicopters to Israel while approving 12 to Egypt and so on.

Makes sense. Israel is making aggressive moves and adding settlements, killing civilians, etc.

Even children can see what their doing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...postcards-sent-by-Spanish-schoolchildren.html

Not sure what Egypt has done to get your wrath.

 

[Noobtastic]

Makes sense. Israel is making aggressive moves and adding settlements, killing civilians, etc.

Even children can see what their doing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...postcards-sent-by-Spanish-schoolchildren.html

Not sure what Egypt has done to get your wrath.

Spoken like a true useful idiot.

"Israel making aggressive moves."

Yeah, Jews living in Jerusalem is an aggressive move according to the Islamic states.

Muslim blowing himself up in Pakistan, taking with him 55 children to paradise, is not.

the fact that europeans are now returning to their all anti-jewish bias of less than a century ago is not too surprising.

Leftist fuckheads actually believing the shit they say isn't either. "Aggressive move."

I love it. You don't even read what I write. This is precisely the problem. They see Israel and nothing else.

What would be wise would be wise for the US would be to cut off lot of aid to Israel and pressure them to act right. This may be a good start but more is needed.

It would be wise for the US to cut aid to the Palestinians, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan - and divert all monies to the Jews.

Then the Arab's will stop fucking around because uncle sam won't protect them from Israel's wrath.

Obama's recent statements might spark a new intifada. thousands of youths are rioting all over jerusalem because of the cliched incitement - jews want to re-build the temple, destroy mosques, blah blah blah.

i think someone was shot and killed too. Let's hope IDF treats this fuckers the way the US treats terrorists. No more rubber bullets and warning shots.

 

[JSt0rm]

It would be wise for the US to cut aid to the Palestinians, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan - and divert all monies to the Jews.

Would it be ok to cut the aid and divert all money to the national debt?

 

[flavio]

Spoken like a true useful idiot.

I see you have to resort to insults immediately exposing your debating faults. This should be easy.

Yeah, Jews living in Jerusalem is an aggressive move according to the Islamic states.

*citation needed where all islamic states have stated this officially. Looks like you made it up.

Muslim blowing himself up in Pakistan, taking with him 55 children to paradise, is not.

No, that's an aggressive move. So are the things Israel does. Like illegal settlements, killing Palestinian civilians, etc. Not recognizing aggression just because the source is Israel would be illogical.

the fact that europeans are now returning to their all anti-jewish bias of less than a century ago is not too surprising.

You like to make generalizations. Could you give me a source showing all the europeans are anti-jewish?

Leftist fuckheads actually believing the shit they say isn't either. "Aggressive move."

Ok, those sentences didn't even make sense. I guess I just reply with "rightist fuckheads"? Is that the way that goes?

I love it. You don't even read what I write. This is precisely the problem. They see Israel and nothing else.

I read what you wrote. I see israel and everything else.

It would be wise for the US to cut aid to the Palestinians, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan - and divert all monies to the Jews.

No, you'd have to be an idiot to think that. That would only encourage their bullshit.

Then the Arab's will stop fucking around because uncle sam won't protect them from Israel's wrath.

Both the arabs and the jews should stop fucking around. Israel is certainly doing a lot of fucking around thinking the US will protect them. Fuck that.

Obama's recent statements might spark a new intifada. thousands of youths are rioting all over jerusalem because of the cliched incitement - jews want to re-build the temple, destroy mosques, blah blah blah.

See, they are violent fuckers.

 

[Noobtastic]

I see you have to resort to insults immediately exposing your debating faults. This should be easy.

I'm doing you a favor.

*citation needed where all islamic states have stated this officially. Looks like you made it up.

Can you name me an Islamic state that does not see the Jewish presence a threat?

850,000 Jews were expelled from the Muslim world.

The WHOLE incitement is bankrolled by the OIL MUSLIM fuckers. Why do you think Obama is bitching about Jewish pizza huts?

Because of oil.

You think any self-respecting human being honestly cares what Jews do 10,000 miles away?

No.

No, that's an aggressive move. So are the things Israel does. Like illegal settlements, killing Palestinian civilians, etc. Not recognizing aggression just because the source is Israel would be illogical.

Drawing parallels between Muslims blowing themselves up and Jews building pizza huts in the desert is illogical.

I like to use Israel as a point of reference to expose the flawed Leftist moral compass.

You like to make generalizations. Could you give me a source showing all the europeans are anti-jewish?

Again, another leftist fallacy.

This is what I said:

the fact that europeans are now returning to their all anti-jewish bias of less than a century ago is not too surprising.

2/3 of Europe's jewish population were exterminated. I can't give provide you a source proving all eurofascists are jew bashers, but I can tell you Europe is one of the most historically racist, antisemitic and hateful continents in the history of mankind.

the fact that europeans are projecting classic antisemitic canards after 20 centures of jew killing DOES NOT SURPRISE ME.

and shouldn't surprise anyone else familiar with the history of europe's policy towards jewish rights.

Ok, those sentences didn't even make sense. I guess I just reply with "rightist fuckheads"? Is that the way that goes?

Do you believe the shit you say?

Legitimate question. Is someone paying you to spam message boards with pro-Islamists propaganda?

I read what you wrote. I see israel and everything else.

I'm not disputing what you read, I'm disputing your comprehension skills. Drr.

No, you'd have to be an idiot to think that. That would only encourage their bullshit.

I see. So you think that America's aid to Jordan, Egypt, and the Palestinians is merely a pay-off, bribing them to hold off their pointless war against the West and Israel?

Wow. You're less stupid than I thought.

Both the arabs and the jews should stop fucking around. Israel is certainly doing a lot of fucking around thinking the US will protect them. Fuck that.

Tell me about this protection. USA has prevented Israel from defending itself, hassling it over domestic issues. Have you seen the way USA bosses Israel around?

The only thing stopping Israel from destroying the Arab nations is the USA. It has had many opportunities to troll right through Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon yet it has chosen not to to maintain a relationship with the USA.

The left wants to sabotage this, while at the same time believe the US should continue funding Islamic and Arab tribes that hate America and contribute nothing to our country other than oil and terrorism.

See, they are violent fuckers.

So you agree Palestinians are violent fuckers and not blameless, innocent victims who don't blow their children up?

The riots of today are no less different than the riots of the 30s. Or the riots in Fez. Or the riots in Damascus.

Except in those days, thousands of Jews were massacred because they had no army. They had no country. They were at the mercy of their Arab occupiers.

But today they have a military, and the worst Arabs can do is throw rocks, grenades, and if they're bored...a few hundred suicide bombings.

Today Israel has a highly-developed anti-riot system. Back 1 century ago, 1,000 Jews would be dead right now.

Arabs used the lie that Jews want to re-build the temple as a pretext to murder them in the 1930s. They use that same lie as a pretext for terrorism, but it's harder to kill Israelis when they have F16s.

 

[flavio]

Can you name me an Islamic state that does not see the Jewish presence a threat?

You made the claim. Prove that every islamic state views the jewish presence as a threat.

The WHOLE incitement is bankrolled by the OIL MUSLIM fuckers. Why do you think Obama is bitching about Jewish pizza huts?

Because of oil.

You just sound crazy here. Source for the Pizza Hut/Oil conspiracy?

You think any self-respecting human being honestly cares what Jews do 10,000 miles away?

Yes, self-respecting human beings typically care what goes on around the world.

Drawing parallels between Muslims blowing themselves up and Jews building pizza huts in the desert is illogical.

Yeah, who did that? You?

I was more about them killing each other.

I like to use Israel as a point of reference to expose the flawed Leftist moral compass.

2/3 of Europe's jewish population were exterminated. I can't give provide you a source proving all eurofascists are jew bashers, but I can tell you Europe is one of the most historically racist, antisemitic and hateful continents in the history of mankind.

Oh, so no evidence. I'll just take you at your crazy assed word.

the fact that europeans are projecting classic antisemitic canards after 20 centures of jew killing DOES NOT SURPRISE ME.

When you make up shit and then act like it's true it shouldn't be surprising.

Legitimate question. Is someone paying you to spam message boards with pro-Islamists propaganda?

No, I suppose I should ask you if someone is paying you to spam message boards with pro-Israeli propaganda now? Is that how that works?

I'm not disputing what you read, I'm disputing your comprehension skills.

I'm into more logical rational discussions so if you have a problem with understanding get specific and I'll answer.

I see. So you think that America's aid to Jordan, Egypt, and the Palestinians is merely a pay-off, bribing them to hold off their pointless war against the West and Israel?

That's a straw man. I never said anything resembling that.

Tell me about this protection. USA has prevented Israel from defending itself, hassling it over domestic issues. Have you seen the way USA bosses Israel around?

Yes, the US should cut off all aid until they quit building illegal settlements. I'm not sure what domestic issues you're talking about but maybe you could give me a link.

The only thing stopping Israel from destroying the Arab nations is the USA. It has had many opportunities to troll right through Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon yet it has chosen not to to maintain a relationship with the USA.

Hopefully there's some morality there too. I'd hate to think Israel would kill more people for no reason unless the US stopped them.

The left wants to sabotage this, while at the same time believe the US should continue funding Islamic and Arab tribes that hate America and contribute nothing to our country other than oil and terrorism.

No the left recognizes Israels fuckups and the other countries fuckups and wants them all to act right. While the Right wants to ignore Israel's fuckups no matter what they do.

So you agree Palestinians are violent fuckers and not blameless, innocent victims who don't blow their children up?

Weren't we talking about the Israeli violent fuckers? When I check above my suspicions are confirmed.

The riots of today are no less different than the riots of the 30s. Or the riots in Fez. Or the riots in Damascus.

I have no idea what point you're attempting to make here. All riots are different.

 

[Ozoned]

Obama needs a good war (started by a 3rd party) so he has a chance to demonstrate his greatness.

I need to go puke now.

 

[Noobtastic]

You made the claim. Prove that every islamic state views the jewish presence as a threat.

Excellent quote-mine, another Fickelstein tactic.

Here is what I said:

"850,000 Jews were expelled from the Muslim world.

The WHOLE incitement is bankrolled by the OIL MUSLIM fuckers. Why do you think Obama is bitching about Jewish pizza huts?

Because of oil.

You think any self-respecting human being honestly cares what Jews do 10,000 miles away?

No. "

Name me an Islamic state that has not at one point called for the destruction of Israel?

Name me an Islamic state that has not expelled its Jewish population?

How can you seriously avoid what I said and fucking dare to ask for "sources."

Troll.

You just sound crazy here. Source for the Pizza Hut/Oil conspiracy?

Muslims spending billions on propaganda is "crazy?" So-called enlightened states bending over backwards to Islamic Nazis and Arab apartheids for fear of offending oil production?

Are you that fuckin naive?

Not even classic Israel haters reject the fact that oil politics play a serious role in Israel bashing.

If Israel had the oil, you wouldn't have an opinion because world government would be kissing its ass.

Yes, self-respecting human beings typically care what goes on around the world.

That's not what I said.

Again:

You think any self-respecting human being honestly cares what Jews do 10,000 miles away?

No self-respecting human being shrills at the thought of Jews building homes in their capital.

Get it? I am not offended. I'm 10,000 miles away. Just because homicidal Muslims are offended does not mean I am.

Yeah, who did that? You?

Serious question? You compared Muslims murdering people to Jews building homes in the desert, both qualifying them as "aggressive moves."

At hitchens would say, this makes you a moral idiot.

I was more about them killing each other.

Vast majority of killing is Arabs killing Arabs, and Jews defending themselves from Arab's addiction to killing.

Oh, so no evidence. I'll just take you at your crazy assed word.

No evidence that 2/3 of europes jewish population was exteriminated?

Yes, the US should cut off all aid until they quit building illegal settlements. I'm not sure what domestic issues you're talking about but maybe you could give me a link.

This is what I said:

Tell me about this protection. USA has prevented Israel from defending itself, hassling it over domestic issues. Have you seen the way USA bosses Israel around?

So you agree with this? So aid should be condition on whether or not Jews live in the WB, which is entirely up for dispute? Only a moron could see 2 generations of Jews living in the WB as a "settlement." All those "settlements" that replace Jewish villages burned down during the 1930s revolt are illegal as well? And Arabs that live in the Jerusalem "settlements?"

You are aware the "illegality" of the settlements was merely manufactured by a Arab-controlled UNGA which is capable of criminalizing everything Israel does, including exercising the sovereign right of closing borders with another nation or territory (i.e, gaza - which UN says is "illegal." LOL!)

That's a straw man. I never said anything resembling that.

Right. So you don't believe US should cut obscene aid to the Arab tribes even though they contribute nothing to humanity, and nothing to the US except for terrorism, yet believe aid to Israel should be conditional on bullshit crap like Jewish settlements?

Again, moral idiot.

 

[Thump553]

Cliff's notes to OP's position: Israel can do no wrong ever. Any deviation from a path of the US fully supporting AND funding Israel's military adventures constitutes a total abandonment of Israel. Only the right wing of Israel knows the route to peace in the Mideast.

To claim that GWB ever once took any action contrary to then-current Israel policy or military actions is totally laughable. After all, you can't have Armageddon without the Mideast turning into a sea of glass first.

 

[Noobtastic]

Cliff's notes to OP's position: Israel can do no wrong ever. Any deviation from a path of the US fully supporting AND funding Israel's military adventures constitutes a total abandonment of Israel. Only the right wing of Israel knows the route to peace in the Mideast.

To claim that GWB ever once took any action contrary to then-current Israel policy or military actions is totally laughable. After all, you can't have Armageddon without the Mideast turning into a sea of glass first.

Again, leftists like to crunch facts and reason into easily-digestible factoids that the lowest-common denominators can easily consume.

I am not claiming anything. GWB rejected several requests by the IDF to bomb known Iranian nuclear strikes. He also told Israel they would not be allowed to use Iraqi airspace ever.

GWB rejected most of Israel's positions on the so-called "road map for peace", and accepted all PLO claims unchallenged.

GWB was probably the most pro-Israel president to ever be in office, ever, but if he wouldn't approve a strike on Iran will Obama?

Israel didn't ask the US to bomb Iran, Israel merely asked US's permission to fly over Iraq and do it.

 

[Thump553]

So I'm an evil "leftist" as I don't support every policy of Israel all the time? Ok, I'll wear that badge with pride. I'm 100% American. Israeal is a friend and long time USA receipient of billions of dollars and military equipment. But like all friends they aren't always right.

Perhaps if you bother to check out the facts, nearly every military expert says that any attempting bombing of Iran's nuclear sites (note plural) would almost certainly end up in failure. The blowback of that failure would be absolutely enormous and 100% anti-American, making the problems our soldiers face in Iran and Afangistan that much worse, not to mention such places as Pakistan and numerous other flash points.

I doubt even Israel's Senator Joe Lieberman would hold as extreme views as yours.

 

[StageLeft]

You're wrong. In another thread I documented how Obama is standing against the world's democracies in general, in order to prostrate himself before the world's dictators, fanatics and tyrants. Israel is just one example.

He's a typical liberal believing we can all just get along when in fact there are tons of MF's who would like nothing better than cutting off your head like this Thai solider in Thailand today. http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=3813

Warning graphic. I have thousands of these from Religion of Peace.

Graphic is one thing but I wasn't counting on seeing a beheading on Sunday morning.

 

[Siddhartha]

OP,

Should the US support Israel no matter what? What if Israel's actions are not in the US's best interests?

 

[Orignal Earl]

lol. You think the US is going to stop supporting Israel? You are a fool. The bombs will go to Israel, of that there is no doubt. You see, this administration will publicly condemn the Israelis actions to appease the fools, while at the same time secretly supporting Israel. What amazes me is that so many here fail to realize this simple truth. Are you all blind?

Except nobody is talking about bombs, right?
Except you