Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ all it shows is that Obama is just another politician who will say one thing and do another.
Yup, and now because of that awesome decision he's gonna win.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
^ all it shows is that Obama is just another politician who will say one thing and do another.
Originally posted by: Deliximus
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Deliximus
WTF? WHy are ppl complaining about him foregoing 'public' financing? Obama took a chance so that he can actually have enuf cash to fight the entrenched RNC machine (think Fox News, think of their smear campaigns that Democrats don't get into). The money he got IS from public sources. McCain could've made the same choice.
Obama promised to go with public financing if his opponent did as well... then he saw how much he was making and was like "lol, f that, let's just buy up all the ad time just in case and seal the deal with cash."... none of which I'd have a problem with if he didn't try and explain it away as something more than it was.
It shows that Obama has very good judgement on he needs to make his campaign successful. It is OK for ppl to change their minds if it makes sense. and this sure as hell makes sense.
Just amazing. You don't see the contradiction in your post.Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
It amuses me when people express pleasure at the thought of Obama winning. What does anyone think Obama is going to do that will radically improve American Life?
Obama like McCain is just another Corporate Puppet, who will sponsor more deficit spending, more socialist policies, and more big government. In addition the shadow of racism and reverse racism will be problematic for all domestic issues he attempts to tackle. It will be difficult to live up to the Expectations of the "change the world" college students while still serving the corporate interests that will own him, as they have all presidents before him.
It's just more of the same, the victory will be all Obamas or McCains, not the American People.
Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
It amuses me when people express pleasure at the thought of Obama winning. What does anyone think Obama is going to do that will radically improve American Life?
Obama like McCain is just another Corporate Puppet, who will sponsor more deficit spending, more socialist policies, and more big government. In addition the shadow of racism and reverse racism will be problematic for all domestic issues he attempts to tackle. It will be difficult to live up to the Expectations of the "change the world" college students while still serving the corporate interests that will own him, as they have all presidents before him.
It's just more of the same, the victory will be all Obamas or McCains, not the American People.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
There were a hundred million reasons in September alone why that was a great decision.Originally posted by: alchemize
And all he had to do to get there was break his word. Some call that a "big lie", or perhaps a "bald face liar"?
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
It amuses me when people express pleasure at the thought of Obama winning. What does anyone think Obama is going to do that will radically improve American Life?
Obama like McCain is just another Corporate Puppet, who will sponsor more deficit spending, more socialist policies, and more big government. In addition the shadow of racism and reverse racism will be problematic for all domestic issues he attempts to tackle. It will be difficult to live up to the Expectations of the "change the world" college students while still serving the corporate interests that will own him, as they have all presidents before him.
It's just more of the same, the victory will be all Obamas or McCains, not the American People.
It appears we're going to get more big government, more socialist policies, more deficit spending with either candidate. The current economic climate has caused the people to cry out, "Save us, big government!"
The choice seems to be whether we want those government-growing actions to continue to erode personal liberties, attempt to police the world, and put even more power into the hands of the few corporations, or a twist in that we'll get real efforts to provide better healthcare and education, pay more than just lip service to renewable energy, and let our troops defend our homeland, rather than attempt to expand it needlessly.
*shrug* Slightly more than different sides of the same coin, imo.
Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
It appears we're going to get more big government, more socialist policies, more deficit spending with either candidate. The current economic climate has caused the people to cry out, "Save us, big government!"
The choice seems to be whether we want those government-growing actions to continue to erode personal liberties, attempt to police the world, and put even more power into the hands of the few corporations, or a twist in that we'll get real efforts to provide better healthcare and education, pay more than just lip service to renewable energy, and let our troops defend our homeland, rather than attempt to expand it needlessly.
*shrug* Slightly more than different sides of the same coin, imo.
Yes, and wait till the Obama supporters realize that all those planes leaving Iraq with our troops will be headed not to America, but to Afghanistan..... Obama is Anti-Iraq War, not Anti-War.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
If McCain wins, I'm moving to Canada.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Deliximus
WTF? WHy are ppl complaining about him foregoing 'public' financing? Obama took a chance so that he can actually have enuf cash to fight the entrenched RNC machine (think Fox News, think of their smear campaigns that Democrats don't get into). The money he got IS from public sources. McCain could've made the same choice.
Obama promised to go with public financing if his opponent did as well... then he saw how much he was making and was like "lol, f that, let's just buy up all the ad time just in case and seal the deal with cash."... none of which I'd have a problem with if he didn't try and explain it away as something more than it was.
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
the first rule of politics is to WIN.
Wow... where were all you apologists in the last 2 elections?
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AnnonUSA
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
It appears we're going to get more big government, more socialist policies, more deficit spending with either candidate. The current economic climate has caused the people to cry out, "Save us, big government!"
The choice seems to be whether we want those government-growing actions to continue to erode personal liberties, attempt to police the world, and put even more power into the hands of the few corporations, or a twist in that we'll get real efforts to provide better healthcare and education, pay more than just lip service to renewable energy, and let our troops defend our homeland, rather than attempt to expand it needlessly.
*shrug* Slightly more than different sides of the same coin, imo.
Yes, and wait till the Obama supporters realize that all those planes leaving Iraq with our troops will be headed not to America, but to Afghanistan..... Obama is Anti-Iraq War, not Anti-War.
Good. The war in Afghanistan actually has a purpose. Iraq was a cluster-fuck to begin with.
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
Wouldn't dream of it. But you've obviously missed my point or chose to ignore it.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
John McCain sacrificed his own character. You can't blame that on the Libs.
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
Originally posted by: techs
CNN had a crawl at the bottom of their screen this a.m. It said the AVERAGE donation was about 100 dollars, not 200 which I had been led to believe.
Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: techs
CNN had a crawl at the bottom of their screen this a.m. It said the AVERAGE donation was about 100 dollars, not 200 which I had been led to believe.
That makes approx. 1.5 million donors and with a population estimate of just under 302 million that makes the percentage of donors for Spetember < .5 % of the US population.
Ah...the old 'your shit stinks worse than my shit' argument. I was actually thinking more along the lines of the relentless personal attacks on Sarah Palin. Libs are far from guiltless in the 'character assassination and fear-mongering' department. But we all know the Dems do the same thing as the Reps but only they are justified in every distasteful action as long as it promotes the 'cause'. Right?Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
The left isn't guiltless by any stretch of the imagination. (they've basically been calling McCain senile for awhile now) I think if you honestly put up the personal attacks against McCain next to the ones directed at Obama though you would see a pretty sharp distinction. Both parties do it, but the Republicans do it more, and they do it dirtier.
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Ah...the old 'your shit stinks worse than my shit' argument. I was actually thinking more along the lines of the relentless personal attacks on Sarah Palin. Libs are far from guiltless in the 'character assassination and fear-mongering' department. But we all know the Dems do the same thing as the Reps but only they are justified in every distasteful action as long as it promotes the 'cause'. Right?Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Don't forget all the racism that must be overcome with the money. You know the funny thing is that you appear to believe that the Left is guiltless in the department of character assassination and fear-mongering. You too funny.Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
More money buys more advertising to offset the Atwater-esque character assassination and fear-mongering in hopes to get more votes and win the election. Yay us.![]()
Fixed.
The left isn't guiltless by any stretch of the imagination. (they've basically been calling McCain senile for awhile now) I think if you honestly put up the personal attacks against McCain next to the ones directed at Obama though you would see a pretty sharp distinction. Both parties do it, but the Republicans do it more, and they do it dirtier.
