Obama secures veto override block on Iran deal

[werepossum]

It was my understanding that congress was going to vote on a no, not a yes of the deal. So, they are not voting to approve, but voting to deny which is why they needed only 34 votes. A filibuster would not help, because the president could still move forward.

Congress wants this deal, but they want to act like they dont which is why they went this route. The vast majority could vote no, and the president could veto their vote, and it would only require 34 votes to back up the veto and thus approve the deal.

This, exactly. That's why they changed it so that instead of approving a treaty, they only have to not vote to kill it. The people that politically need to oppose it can filibuster, the people in safe seats can vote not to kill it, and then they can all go to lunch together. Two very different faces but the same counterfeit coin.

 

[trenchfoot]

This, exactly. That's why they changed it so that instead of approving a treaty, they only have to not vote to kill it. The people that politically need to oppose it can filibuster, the people in safe seats can vote not to kill it, and then they can all go to lunch together. Two very different faces but the same counterfeit coin.

Seems to me this knowledge was all made available to the Iranians some time ago, or they woudn't have agreed to the deal.

I'm wondering if Bibi also knew this before he even came to Congress and made his "heroic stand" at the podium.

 

[Jhhnn]

This, exactly. That's why they changed it so that instead of approving a treaty, they only have to not vote to kill it. The people that politically need to oppose it can filibuster, the people in safe seats can vote not to kill it, and then they can all go to lunch together. Two very different faces but the same counterfeit coin.

It's not a treaty. It was a courtesy on the part of the Obama Admin to allow Congress to vote at all.