Obama: Seafood from the Gulf today is safe to eat

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Babbles

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Which is what, exactly?

Look, I was critical on one part of the President and fair on another. It's called being impartial and objective.

Just what in the hell do you expect the President of the United States to do? Get on a boat and lower booms into the water? Wash off the wildlife himself? Do some deep sea diving? This is a job for professional scientists and engineers to tackle so the best thing the President can do is allow the professionals to do their job to the best of their ability.

Admiral Thad Allen of the US Coast Guard has been doing the emergency response management for the problem. Proper channels are doing what they are supposed to be doing. Sure BP is being somewhat incompetent, but what do you want the Commander in Chief to do? Call a Marine strike on BP and order the Navy to declare war on the oil spill?

However with that being said I think the President has a responsibility to not say stupid shit and worthless platitudes just for the sake of appearances. That drives me nuts.
 

alphatarget1

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I live in Texas and I'm avoiding shrimp+seafood from the Gulf. No way I'd trust my health to any politicians who is trying to score cheap political points.
 

alphatarget1

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Look, I was critical on one part of the President and fair on another. It's called being impartial and objective.

Just what in the hell do you expect the President of the United States to do? Get on a boat and lower booms into the water? Wash off the wildlife himself? Do some deep sea diving? This is a job for professional scientists and engineers to tackle so the best thing the President can do is allow the professionals to do their job to the best of their ability.

Admiral Thad Allen of the US Coast Guard has been doing the emergency response management for the problem. Proper channels are doing what they are supposed to be doing. Sure BP is being somewhat incompetent, but what do you want the Commander in Chief to do? Call a Marine strike on BP and order the Navy to declare war on the oil spill?

However with that being said I think the President has a responsibility to not say stupid shit and worthless platitudes just for the sake of appearances. That drives me nuts.

Did Obama eat seafood from the Gulf in his visits?
 

kage69

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Well I guess this counts as Obama's version of "the air quality at Ground Zero is perfectly safe!"

Um, no thanks. What's funny to me is the last time I ate at some seafood joints down near Destin and Ft. Walton Beach, I found out from employees that knew my host that all the shrimp we were dining on came from either Thailand or South America. Will cheap imports end up saving some of these establishments?
 

ayabe

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Well I guess this counts as Obama's version of "the air quality at Ground Zero is perfectly safe!"

Um, no thanks. What's funny to me is the last time I ate at some seafood joints down near Destin and Ft. Walton Beach, I found out from employees that knew my host that all the shrimp we were dining on came from either Thailand or South America. Will cheap imports end up saving some of these establishments?

That's the same place Red Lobster gets all of their shit from yet people gobble it up, hormones and poisons be damned.

You're just going to the wrong places, there are also a lot of places that will sell you grouper that isn't grouper. That has nothing to do with the oil spill and the quality or lack thereof of the food in good establishments.
 

Acanthus

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Which is what, exactly?

1. finding out how it happened and pressing for regulatory reform.

2. visiting the site and the people affected by this ecological disaster for insight

3. increasing the coast guards role

4. making sure that aid money starts flowing in a timely manner for those affected.

The military doesn't have the resources to deal with this either. We all have to wait on BP, fine the shit out of them for the largest oil disaster in history, make sure those who got screwed get compensated, reform safety and learn from the accident so you don't repeat it.
 

Acanthus

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Look, I was critical on one part of the President and fair on another. It's called being impartial and objective.

Just what in the hell do you expect the President of the United States to do? Get on a boat and lower booms into the water? Wash off the wildlife himself? Do some deep sea diving? This is a job for professional scientists and engineers to tackle so the best thing the President can do is allow the professionals to do their job to the best of their ability.

Admiral Thad Allen of the US Coast Guard has been doing the emergency response management for the problem. Proper channels are doing what they are supposed to be doing. Sure BP is being somewhat incompetent, but what do you want the Commander in Chief to do? Call a Marine strike on BP and order the Navy to declare war on the oil spill?

However with that being said I think the President has a responsibility to not say stupid shit and worthless platitudes just for the sake of appearances. That drives me nuts.

If the repubs were in charge we would currently be involved in a "war on crude."

Bush would bomb mexico for putting the gulf there.
 

kage69

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That's the same place Red Lobster gets all of their shit from yet people gobble it up, hormones and poisons be damned.

I believe it, although that's the first I've heard of "hormones" being associated with a sea harvest. Dairy, pork, poultry - yeah, hormones and antibiotics are used in those industries, but I had no idea you could apply them to wild caught shrimp. Huh. Poisons, well, no way around that in the oceans of today. It's just a question of where they're diluted the most I suppose.

You're just going to the wrong places, there are also a lot of places that will sell you grouper that isn't grouper. That has nothing to do with the oil spill and the quality or lack thereof of the food in good establishments.

No, I wasn't. This Florida Sportsman makes a point of only giving patronage to privately owned, local favorites that make a point of advertising local specialties. The two places i was referring to were hole in the wall establishments that were producers first, with just side restaurants built on the side. You know, simple dozen-item menus, a couple of specials, and only 3 or 4 beers to choose from. Having spent years living in The Keys and dining on what swims around them, I like to think I know my seafood. I think I was taken to Red Lobster once back when I was 14. Frozen things drowning in butter ain't my cup of cerviche. ;) My fishing buds and I would slice tuna up into sashimi mere seconds after the hook was removed. Nothing like magoro from a fish that's still trying to breathe!

I digress, it has everything to do with the spill if you are the proprietor of a restaurant in the affected areas! Locally caught shrimp aren't going to be as plentiful, might not even be safe soon, while shrimp from 3000 miles away wouldn't be affected. I was just noting surprise via some personal experience on the subject from the same area, that's all. I would find it curious that some restaurants who already rely on imported seafood would be acting like this spill means the end of world for their business. Still, the question of species plays a big role here. I hear oyster beds will be the real scene of carnage, not so much pelagic stock.
 

Jadow

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on the plus side, if you're planning on frying your food, you will save some money because it comes with its own oil now.
 

Babbles

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I wonder if they can spin this mess to publicize that the water is now full of healthy omega-3 oils.
 

Hacp

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We fry our foods in oil every day.Of course its safe to eat!i Way to state the obvious Obama.
 

CaptnKirk

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I live in Texas and I'm avoiding shrimp+seafood from the Gulf.
No way I'd trust my health to any politicians who is trying to score cheap political points.

And you have Governor Rick Perry? - yeah, right.

We still have good sea food available in the New Orleans area, they are closing any oyster beds
that are suspected of oil contamination, and reopening those that remain clean.
Some resturants have lost access to their private stock supply, and either bring them from another source
or find a temporary substitute for their menu.

Haven't had any Shrimp Diesel . . . yet.
 

heyheybooboo

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My fishing buds and I would slice tuna up into sashimi mere seconds after the hook was removed. Nothing like magoro from a fish that's still trying to breathe!

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My bro-in-law in Gulf Breeze has this neat setup --- a portable "fish fry" powered by propane.

They catch 'em, drop 'em in the wet well and 'beach' on the National Seashore. While they're cleaning the fish they fire up the cooker (it's got a small deep fryer and a skillet) and proceed to chow down.

While enjoying a cool beverage or two :D




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aphex

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I wouldn't say its safe to eat from the WHOLE gulf, but many parts are fine. I see nothing wrong with him trying to keep tourism and the market for seafood up.
 

ayabe

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I believe it, although that's the first I've heard of "hormones" being associated with a sea harvest. Dairy, pork, poultry - yeah, hormones and antibiotics are used in those industries, but I had no idea you could apply them to wild caught shrimp. Huh. Poisons, well, no way around that in the oceans of today. It's just a question of where they're diluted the most I suppose.

I was referring to farmed shrimp from Thailand, I believe a few SA countries are also in on that game creating huge dead areas deprived of oxygen and loaded with waste. The water is so foul they have to pump the shrimp full of everything under the sun just to keep them alive.

I'm glad to see another FL fisherman/seafood enthusiast.
 

peonyu

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Thats just...nasty. Ill pay a dollar more for imported sea food, and I live in S.florida. It wont be long until the oil taints the water down here [if it hasnt already].

As far as Obama goes, hes just doing his job. He has most of the coastal Gulf states bitching left and right [for good reason] at him that thier jobs and income are destroyed by the oil spill. If he were to say DO NOT EAT THIS FOOD!!! those folks would lose what little business they are getting now.

And public health be damned - He would lose a few million votes in that region come next election to if he were honest about it...His job is to get re-elected. Honesty comes second. Thats the American way when it comes to politics.

And on that note im surprised anyone believes a word ANY politician says these days...With the exception of Jan Brewer of course, she has balls of steel to make a stand against illegal immigration, and is [more] honest than our lying leaders in Congress. She should run for president next election, im sure she would get alot of votes.