Obama Ready To Ctrl+Z Bush's White House Policies

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Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Guess what will happen when Republicans voice their opposition? The Dems will probably flood the media with reports of the right being "devisive!"

If only the Republicans will go along with getting raped without lube, in the name of unity!

So, Duwelon, you are here spreading ignorant lies.

Which of my words are lies exactly? PS, using their God given elected powers to prevent legislation that they deem harmful to the AMerican people doesn't mean they're automatically evil and devisive. We know YOU think they did it screw the USA over, but that logic doesn't fly with anyone with an IQ over 80 because it's nothing but your own opinion. It's politics, it's 2 elected groups fighting for the interests of their constituents.

So my point stands, the Dems will probably bitch and moan and call the Republicans devisive when all they're doing is trying to keep back the flood gates of a socialist state and lamebrain ideas that solve nothing but give more power to the government.

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Oh, and I love how you think that the Republicans are fighting to keep power out of the hands of the government. What country have you been living in for the last 8 years?

PS. Please learn the definition of socialism. You've been shown it time and time again, but it doesn't appear to have sunk in yet. I know words are hard, but each one really does have its own meaning. In order to continue communicating with others in English, it would help a great deal if you decided to learn the definitions of the words you chose to use.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Guess what will happen when Republicans voice their opposition? The Dems will probably flood the media with reports of the right being "devisive!"

If only the Republicans will go along with getting raped without lube, in the name of unity!

That's called separation of power. The American people elected a Democrat to the White House so he could enact his agenda.

Republicans can voice their opposition in Congress with something called a "vote".

Dumb. You can voice your opposition to the President in congress as well. It's called a "debate". Any other words of wisdom from Mr Propaganda?

Your signature is supposed to come at the end of your statement, not at the beginning.

Gosh, aren't you a clever one? Funny to see the liberal P&N'ers circle the wagons with one condescending statement after another.

This is the second thread I've seen it in. Just trying to help you out there, buddy.

Lame.

Is that self ownage statement??

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Until Conservatives show me they have any ideas worth a damn I could care less what they have to say. It's pointless to have bi-partisanship for the sake of having it, the Republican Party needs to bring something to the table other than low taxes and their wacky social agenda.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Awesome! I don't see a single thing on that list that I disagree with.

:thumbsup:

So you think that despite the fact that the US auto industry is circling the bankrupcy drain right now, they should have to increase the gas milage in their vehicles substantially in the next few years? Keep in mind that the gov't estimates that if GM goes down, over 2 million jobs will be lost in the US.

Just to be clear, you support adding additional VERY COSTLY regulations to an industry that is about to go bankrupt and over 2 millions jobs would be lost if that happens.

Actually, yes. I'd go out on a limb and say that is exactly what needs to happen, not just for environmental or national security (read: oil supply) reasons, but for the long-term viability of the US auto industry. If they had kept up innovation and increased fuel economy continually after the original oil crisis of the 70s/80s, would they be in the same position as they are now? No. If anything, they would be in a much better position now as they would have better cars that would've stemmed the tide of the imports who were light-years ahead on fuel economy at the time. (As of now, GM/Ford are making damn good cars)

I doubt Congress or President Obama will allow GM/Ford to fail. These regulations are necessary imho because we haven't seen the last of the oil shortages/price-gouging/etc. If this legislation isn't enacted, they might not survive the next one.

Agreed. If they would have invested their money into developing and research instead of pissing it away the US auto industry would actually be competitive.

If unions were dissolved, they would be ok too. THe unions served their purpose and are now causing much more harm than good. Companies like Ford and GM who have to pay out the rear end for their unionized workforce is getting screwed not just by the economy but by the unions. Toyota and other manufacturers that don't have unionized labor don't need slave drivers to produce cars and they're doing much better than GM/Ford because they only have the economy to worry about right now.

Putting GM's troubles squarely on the shoulders of unions is pretty inaccurate. The unions may have gone too far, but you can't blame them for GM's current troubles. GM agreed to their demands for healthcare, etc many decades ago. The profits that GM was making during those times were more than enough to provide for those benefits and then some. The blame should go heavily on the shoulders of the managers and executives that put personal profit before meeting known liabilities of the company and R&D. Remember, GM agreed to provide those benefits and the workers fought to be able to retire with what they had EARNED over their working lifetimes.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Obama will easily get reelected IMHO. I've seen enough, sometimes you just know from your gut that something great is about to happen. I truly believe this country is on the right track after so many years of being stuck in the wilderness. The Republicans damn near destroyed the fabric of this nation, I would hope Bush and his administration are tried for their war crimes and lies.

Respectfully, I disagree with your assessment of Obama. I believe that he will lead us into a massive depression. I believe that his policies will cause massive hardships for people and we will lose lots of freedoms in the process. He will blame most of this on Bush but will say that larger government is the answer. I believe that taxes will be raised for everyone on a level never before seen to pay for his massive promises.

Again, I respect your belief, but realize that not everyone shares your optimism. I do hope that you are right though.

Nobody gives a shit what you think. You voted for Bush twice and then again for McCain. You're a fucking moron. I could care less what you think about my opinions because you have flat out been wrong time and time again.

Typical ignorant democrat response. I try to have a rational discussion and you resort to name calling and hate mongering. Have a nice day...or are you going to get upset at me for that too?

XZeroII, I think you have a valid complaint about the tone of the response. You did try to post with a decent tone, however bogglingly wrong the views might be.

As for a more rational response, it's hard to respond to you just posting baseless predictions of wild-eyed world-ending disaster from Obama. If you could provide reasons?

I might find some common ground with you in predicting that Obama has hard choices to make given the crap he's walking into, and higher taxes for more might make sense.

It's just that he's painted in a political corner, much like the first Bush, on doing the right thing having a huge political price because of irresponsible voters.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Obama will easily get reelected IMHO. I've seen enough, sometimes you just know from your gut that something great is about to happen. I truly believe this country is on the right track after so many years of being stuck in the wilderness. The Republicans damn near destroyed the fabric of this nation, I would hope Bush and his administration are tried for their war crimes and lies.

lol, It's a bit to soon to predict the next election

 

[MotF Bane]

"Before he makes any decisions on potential executive or legislative actions, he will be conferring with congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle, as well as interested groups,"

lThe team is now consulting with liberal advocacy groups, Capitol Hill staffers and potential agency chiefs ...

Why the advocacy groups and interest groups? Didn't Obama say something against lobbyists during his campaign?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Which of my words are lies exactly? PS, using their God given elected powers to prevent legislation that they deem harmful to the AMerican people doesn't mean they're automatically evil and devisive. We know YOU think they did it screw the USA over, but that logic doesn't fly with anyone with an IQ over 80 because it's nothing but your own opinion. It's politics, it's 2 elected groups fighting for the interests of their constituents.

So my point stands, the Dems will probably bitch and moan and call the Republicans devisive when all they're doing is trying to keep back the flood gates of a socialist state and lamebrain ideas that solve nothing but give more power to the government.

All of them.

(A) The powers you reference are not God-given, they're granted by the people who elect him as per the Constitution. (B) As someone else has patiently pointed out, you have no idea what socialism is. Just like the other knuckle-dragging redneck idiots who screamed ignorant shit like that at Palin's rallies, and on the internet, and anywhere where they mistakenly believed someone gave two shits about their opinion.