Obama Opposes Releasing Photos of U.S. Detainee Abuse

Fear No Evil

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To prove that I don't disagree with EVERYTHING Obama does.. This is the right decision.. there is NO reason to release these photos. It absolutely would cause our troops to be in more danger and it would simply rehash the Abu Ghraib situation. This needs to be dealt with internally (I believe it already has?) and we need to move on. The ACLU is a bunch of idiots for trying to get these released.

Good job Mr. Obama (Just to piss off the OP of the other thread about Obama and how he is addressed.)
 

bamacre

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It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

These photos would put them in even more danger than they are already in thanks to Obama's continued illegal war in Iraq.. :roll:
 

RKDaley

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And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

Here is the irony.

Those who claim to care about our troops and want to see these photos released which will, without doubt, probably cause some of them to get hurt (Some who had NOTHING to do with these photos) because of the reaction to them. So because our troops are overseas in a operation you don't agree with you want to see them harmed because it fits your political view?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: RKDaley
And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.

don't worry, he was for it before he was against it... so as with everything with Obama, just look at it from the correct angle and you'll see that he agrees with you 100% and is perfect in every way.
 

microbial

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What's in those photos is no doubt representative of not rare, but instead, oh so common bad, irresponsible and willfully criminal decisions by Dick and W.

Anyone who cares about our young men and women serving our country would do well to place the bill stained in blood we've incurred right at D&W's doorstep.

Bury your heads in shame!
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: RKDaley
And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.

As do I. IMO they should be released. To not release them gives the impression of a coverup. The worst is already being imagined anyway. Release them and let people see what's real and what's not.

Bad decision Mr. President.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
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To prove that I don't disagree with EVERYTHING Obama does.. This is the right decision.. there is NO reason to release these photos. It absolutely would cause our troops to be in more danger and it would simply rehash the Abu Ghraib situation. This needs to be dealt with internally (I believe it already has?) and we need to move on. The ACLU is a bunch of idiots for trying to get these released.

Good job Mr. Obama (Just to piss off the OP of the other thread about Obama and how he is addressed.)

I honestly don't know why I even bother, but let's get this straight: You have no problem with any of our activities, including torture, you just wish to keep it under wraps so no one knows what we've done?

Sound about right?
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

:thumbsup:
 

Fern

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I also agree that these photos shouldn't be released. I see nothing good coming from it. If they are needed in any investigation etc, fine they have them. But I see no good reason for public distribution/voyerism.

Since this whole issue began I've wondered if it is legal anyway. I thought the GC forbid this type of thing out of respect for the 'victim' (i.e., avoid any potential humiliation).

Fern
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

Here is the irony.

Those who claim to care about our troops and want to see these photos released which will, without doubt, probably cause some of them to get hurt (Some who had NOTHING to do with these photos) because of the reaction to them. So because our troops are overseas in a operation you don't agree with you want to see them harmed because it fits your political view?

This logic should apply to everyone then - we shouldn't reveal the fact that many terrorist actions are committed by Muslims, since that could result in Muslims getting hurt, most of whom had NOTHING to do with these actions. If a member of a biker gang rapes someone, we shouldn't release his name, becasue that could result in bikers getting hurt, most of whom had NOTHING to do with it. Agreed?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

Here is the irony.

Those who claim to care about our troops and want to see these photos released which will, without doubt, probably cause some of them to get hurt (Some who had NOTHING to do with these photos) because of the reaction to them. So because our troops are overseas in a operation you don't agree with you want to see them harmed because it fits your political view?

Here's MORE irony. Conservatives who believe in a limited government of limited powers where the strong presumption should be towards disclosure of government action so it can be accountable to the people agree when a president chooses to be secretive and not release information the public has a right to simply because it makes us look bad.

It's the equivalent of making an objection in court and when the judge asks for the grounds you say "because it's very damaging to my case!"
 

OCGuy

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I think the photos should never have been taken in the first place.


Whoever took the photos deserves to be punished for being an absolute moron.
 

Genx87

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I agree with Obama's decision on this. Releasing more photo's serves little purpose. We know this happened, move on.
 

cumhail

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I hereby lower my grade (from that other thread, where we were asked for them) from a C to a C-... and a weak C-, at that.
 

RKDaley

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: RKDaley
And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.

don't worry, he was for it before he was against it... so as with everything with Obama, just look at it from the correct angle and you'll see that he agrees with you 100% and is perfect in every way.

:confused:
I'm not sure where or why you get the impression I am worrying.I simply expressed that I don't agree with this particular stance.
Neither do I expect him to be perfect nor agree with me 100%

Wait, were you just trying to be witty?
 

heyheybooboo

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I think they should be released but if they don't want to release them it's okay.

It's not like the photos currently in the public domain paint a rosey picture of what has been done ...
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

These photos would put them in even more danger than they are already in thanks to Obama's continued illegal war in Iraq.. :roll:

Has Obama set a deadline for withdrawal from Bushes illegal war? I believe he has.
You seriously believe that the minute Obama was sworn into office that he should have immediately withdrawn all out troops?

Nice try,,,kik
 
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

I think the iorny is people like you that hate America so much that you don't understand that a government's 1st priority are to it's own citizens 1st. putting any other nations citizens ahead of your own is dumb and a very dangerous move to make.

 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: RKDaley
And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.

As do I. IMO they should be released. To not release them gives the impression of a coverup. The worst is already being imagined anyway. Release them and let people see what's real and what's not.

Bad decision Mr. President.

This is what I love about you libs. You're such good armchair quarterbacks. Look at the various issues on which Obama has double-backed or quietly put at the bottom of the stack. Now that he has all the info, all the intel, etc., some of his decision making isn't all that different from previous presidents.

It's easy to babble on and on about change, ideals, blah blah blah when you don't have any clue as to what the true landscape looks like.

I'll give you credit though, at least you're not flip-flopping just because you like the guy this time around.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: bamacre
It is not these photos that would put Americans in danger. It is our American foreign policy that puts Americans in danger.

And its not American foreign policy that puts our troops in danger.. its guns.. but its not guns that do it, its bullets... :roll:

Here is the irony.

Those who have no problems with us bombing people overseas, invading nations that had never attacked us, running secret abusive prisons, all of a sudden are worried about photos putting Americans in danger.

If that isn't irony, or perhaps just hypocrisy, then I don't know what it is.

I think the iorny is people like you that hate America so much that you don't understand that a government's 1st priority are to it's own citizens 1st. putting any other nations citizens ahead of your own is dumb and a very dangerous move to make.

:confused: :laugh: Wow.

 

jonks

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: RKDaley
And to prove I don't agree with EVERYTHING Pres.Obama does, I disagree with this decision.

As do I. IMO they should be released. To not release them gives the impression of a coverup. The worst is already being imagined anyway. Release them and let people see what's real and what's not.

Bad decision Mr. President.

This is what I love about you libs. You're such good armchair quarterbacks. Look at the various issues on which Obama has double-backed or quietly put at the bottom of the stack. Now that he has all the info, all the intel, etc., some of his decision making isn't all that different from previous presidents.

It's easy to babble on and on about change, ideals, blah blah blah when you don't have any clue as to what the true landscape looks like.

I'll give you credit though, at least you're not flip-flopping just because you like the guy this time around.

Don't you have a question to answer in a thread from back in December when you were too busy or something?