Obama not taking away your guns in order to take away your guns

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Rainsford

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To borrow a Jon Stewart quote...

I don't think the NRA is stupid, I think gun owners are stupid. Because if they weren't, the NRA wouldn't talk to them this way.

Now I don't think all (or even most) gun owners are stupid, but the way the NRA talks about 2nd amendment issues seems ridiculously out of proportion to any actual opposition. Sort of like the people who kept insisting that Bush was behind 9/11 so he could turn the US into a police state.
 

Siddhartha

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http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/nra-claims-massive-obama-conspiracy-not-to-ban-guns/



Don't be fooled.

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Are there any NRA members on this forum? Do you think Mr Obama is going to try to take your guns away from you?
 

spidey07

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Are there any NRA members on this forum? Do you think Mr Obama is going to try to take your guns away from you?

I was pretty certain we'd see another assault weapons ban or something similar, magazine limits, etc. So I did stock up on "assault weapons" and about 50 30 round magazines, 30 high capacity pistol mags (> 10 rounds) and a ton of ammunition.
 

trenchfoot

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I want to own a fully functional mini gun and a quad Ma Deuce mounted on my F-150's truck bed with a baby howie hitched up back but if Obama gets re-elected he's gun'na make sure that ain't gun'na happen, but Perry will....*wink* *wink*

The NRA told me so, and if you can't trust them, who can you trust?:p
 
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Are there any NRA members on this forum? Do you think Mr Obama is going to try to take your guns away from you?

I'm not usually a member of the NRA (I do sometimes pay dues just to get certain things in return), but I am a member of several other groups and I was pretty sure he'd try to pull something...especially after Giffords (where I started saving up for a massive high-cap mag purchase to retire off of). However, I was proved wrong, and now have little if any fear of him (though Holder, Sotomayor, & Kagan scare the shit out of me...then again, so do most W appointees, just in a different way).
 
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Jhhnn

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I was pretty certain we'd see another assault weapons ban or something similar, magazine limits, etc. So I did stock up on "assault weapons" and about 50 30 round magazines, 30 high capacity pistol mags (> 10 rounds) and a ton of ammunition.

Gawd, I love the reek of fear and delusion on a Saturday morning. It's better than Looney Tunes.
 

Perknose

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I was pretty certain we'd see another assault weapons ban or something similar, magazine limits, etc. So I did stock up on "assault weapons" and about 50 30 round magazines, 30 high capacity pistol mags (> 10 rounds) and a ton of ammunition.

When reality proved you wrong, did you learn anything?
 

Triumph

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I'm a gun owner and card carrying NRA member, and I get the emails and monthly subscription to American Rifleman. And I gotta say, although I support the cause, they go way overboard to the point of paranoia sometimes. During times when absolutely nothing is going on relevant to gun control, they will send out emails proclaiming that the sky is falling, and now more than ever is the time to act, and this and that and the other thing. Don't they know the parable about the boy who cried wolf?
 

spidey07

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I'm a gun owner and card carrying NRA member, and I get the emails and monthly subscription to American Rifleman. And I gotta say, although I support the cause, they go way overboard to the point of paranoia sometimes. During times when absolutely nothing is going on relevant to gun control, they will send out emails proclaiming that the sky is falling, and now more than ever is the time to act, and this and that and the other thing. Don't they know the parable about the boy who cried wolf?

Yeah, they do tend to go overboard. I guess they're like AARP, scare to get money.

Send your money to 2nd Amendment Foundation, super work being done and they're the reason behind the monumental SC cases the past few years.

http://www.saf.org
 
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Yeah, they do tend to go overboard. I guess they're like AARP, scare to get money.

Send your money to 2nd Amendment Foundation, super work being done and they're the reason behind the monumental SC cases the past few years.

http://www.saf.org

Agreed. NRA has started doing better since they got the ILA organized, but right now SAF still blows em away.
 

Rainsford

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Agreed. NRA has started doing better since they got the ILA organized, but right now SAF still blows em away.

NRA seems more like a Republican support organization using guns as the wedge issue than a group of people actually interested in supporting 2nd amendment rights. To be honest, I didn't actually know there were serious alternatives out there. SAF might end up with some of my donation money alongside the EFF and ACLU (among others). I tend to disagree with gun enthusiast types a lot, but I'm still in favor of protecting our constitutional rights.
 

spidey07

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NRA seems more like a Republican support organization using guns as the wedge issue than a group of people actually interested in supporting 2nd amendment rights. To be honest, I didn't actually know there were serious alternatives out there. SAF might end up with some of my donation money alongside the EFF and ACLU (among others). I tend to disagree with gun enthusiast types a lot, but I'm still in favor of protecting our constitutional rights.

Many gun owners/supporters are very disappointed in what the NRA has become. Giant facepalms abound. Me included. You look around most gun forums and the sentiment is the same. They ain't getting my money. They used to be good, but now, not so much. It used to be about the cause/protection of rights, now it's about the money. Funny how that always happens.
 

Nebor

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I'm a gun owner and card carrying NRA member, and I get the emails and monthly subscription to American Rifleman. And I gotta say, although I support the cause, they go way overboard to the point of paranoia sometimes. During times when absolutely nothing is going on relevant to gun control, they will send out emails proclaiming that the sky is falling, and now more than ever is the time to act, and this and that and the other thing. Don't they know the parable about the boy who cried wolf?

Agreed. I'm a lifetime member and their emails make me facepalm on a regular basis.

I really don't think Obama cares about gun control at this point, nor will he at any point in the next 5 years. He's got much, much bigger issues to deal with.
 
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NRA seems more like a Republican support organization using guns as the wedge issue than a group of people actually interested in supporting 2nd amendment rights. To be honest, I didn't actually know there were serious alternatives out there. SAF might end up with some of my donation money alongside the EFF and ACLU (among others). I tend to disagree with gun enthusiast types a lot, but I'm still in favor of protecting our constitutional rights.

CCRKBA is pretty good too, though now they're so closely entwined with SAF you can just hyphenate and call em by one name. A few other good groups with narrower focus out there, but for the broad rights champions those are pretty much it.
 

Texashiker

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Why is gun control such a big issue?

Change in government is done 1 of 2 ways:

1 - vote in a new government

2 - use force to secure a new government.

Always have a backup plan.

It is only through the private ownership of firearms that all other rights will remain secure.
 
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GuitarDaddy

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Damn, AT is becoming way too predictable. I saw the thread title and immediately guessed correctly the ATOT nutters that would post in this thread. I opened the thread and low and behold :\

Oh me oh my, buy mo guns! Mercy, Mercy, dere's a black man in the whitehouse Myrtle!

My prayer for AT

Please oh Lord! Let these fools be trollin, cause if they ain't and we really have this many people soo stupid I fear for the future of mankind :(
 

spidey07

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Damn, AT is becoming way too predictable. I saw the thread title and immediately guessed correctly the ATOT nutters that would post in this thread. I opened the thread and low and behold :\

Oh me oh my, buy mo guns! Mercy, Mercy, dere's a black man in the whitehouse Myrtle!

My prayer for AT

Please oh Lord! Let these fools be trollin, cause if they ain't and we really have this many people soo stupid I fear for the future of mankind :(

Obama's stance and previous statements and votes on draconian gun control laws was known by everybody. You should have seen the gun stores for 6 months after his election, people were buying everything in site, 1000s of rounds of ammunition, magazines, the price on "assault rifles" went through the roof, manufacturers simply couldn't meet the demand. Magainzes were almost impossible to find, etc.

It was a very logical and smart move by anybody who paid attention to this president.
 

DucatiMonster696

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every idiot that sends a penny to the ACLU (or SEUI, Acorn, etc).....nicely done - all you've done is pay for a shiny new building and a bunch of useless salaries

they called me the other day with 'do you think it's ok that the United Nations controls the laws of the United States' pile of crap - that people fall for this garbage is just sad.


Funny how this works.