Obama knew about VA issues in 2008

[PokerGuy]

You believe this because you live in the right wing bubble.

That might be true, now if only you could take the blinders off and realize that you live in a left wing bubble and your perspective is tainted just like everyone else's. Of course you can't see it.

The rest of the country doesn't seem to think so, but I doubt that will affect you guys at all.

Of course it doesn't with the willing media actively running interference for the dear leader and many of his loyal followers (like yourself) not willing to believe he could do any wrong.

your nickname for your president is to call him a murderous North Korean dictator.

Wrong again. His nickname is a reference to his crazed / loyal followers, who treat him with reverence and awe like those who follow the dear leader in NK (people like you!). At no point have I said or even inferred that the bummer himself was a murderous dictator.

 

[michal1980]

lol. You are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. A mindless bot who comes by and posts fake or misleading stories from ultra right wing sources and when they are disproven you simply run away to find another. You have no interest in this outside of the fact that you might be able to use it to attack Obama. Disgusting.

I wonder if any conservatives are interested in actually discussing what should be done.

says the guy blaming republicans for this none story.

And since when are the Washington Times or 'The Times' ultra right wing sources?

your redefining right wing then.

 

[cyclohexane]

the problems at the VA is caused by too many fucking wars and too many injured vets.

Those wars, no surprise, were started by republican administrations.

Repub:
"Hey look, we have all these vets injured by these bullshit wars that we started. It's clogging up the VA hospitals since the 1970s. Why haven't you fixed all this?"

Obama:
"...Go eat a dick"

 

[Genx87]

I am curious what this administrations angle is when they claim to only learn of these issues via the MSM.

 

[fskimospy]

says the guy blaming republicans for this none story.

And since when are the Washington Times or 'The Times' ultra right wing sources?

your redefining right wing then.

You realize that the Washington Times was created explicitly to be a very conservative newspaper by Sun Myung Moon, right?

 

[etrigan420]

says the guy blaming republicans for this none story.

Wait, so is it a "none story" or is it a "scandal"?

Maybe you and your band of merry fuckwits want to have a little huddle before you answer? Ask Issa...he'll know.

 

[Vic]

Wrong again. His nickname is a reference to his crazed / loyal followers, who treat him with reverence and awe like those who follow the dear leader in NK (people like you!). At no point have I said or even inferred that the bummer himself was a murderous dictator.

Looney tunes. All the liberals and Democrats that I know aren't particularly happy with Obama. There are no crazed/loyal followers that I know of.
Just because people don't like Obama doesn't mean that they're automatically going to support the Republicans and/or Wingnuts. A lot of Obama's and the Democrats' support comes purely by default, ie today's "conservatives" are mostly fear - based ranting crazies so what choice do the sane people have?

 

[fskimospy]

That might be true, now if only you could take the blinders off and realize that you live in a left wing bubble and your perspective is tainted just like everyone else's. Of course you can't see it.

Of course it doesn't with the willing media actively running interference for the dear leader and many of his loyal followers (like yourself) not willing to believe he could do any wrong.

That's funny considering the very first sentence I wrote in this thread was that we should be angry at Obama about this. If you were outside of the right wing bubble you might realize that not every liberal acts like the caricature you have of them in your mind.

It's strange that you seem to acknowledge this about yourself but are totally okay with it.

Wrong again. His nickname is a reference to his crazed / loyal followers, who treat him with reverence and awe like those who follow the dear leader in NK (people like you!). At no point have I said or even inferred that the bummer himself was a murderous dictator.

The noun relates to Obama. Regardless, if you think his supporters act like North Koreans that just shows how little you know about North Korea.

 

[PokerGuy]

Those wars, no surprise, were started by republican administrations.

So the rife corruption at the VA administration, the lies etc are all the fault of .... you guessed it, republicans. Brilliant!

 

[PokerGuy]

It's strange that you seem to acknowledge this about yourself but are totally okay with it.

Everyone should take the time to understand themselves and their own biases before they try to asses those of others. You should try it, you might be surprised.

The noun relates to Obama. Regardless, if you think his supporters act like North Koreans that just shows how little you know about North Korea.

Again, fail. He is called that because many of his followers behave just like those who follow the dear leader, they organize children school chants praising his name and so forth.

 

[fskimospy]

Looney tunes. All the liberals and Democrats that I know aren't particularly happy with Obama. There are no crazed/loyal followers that I know of.
Just because people don't like Obama doesn't mean that they're automatically going to support the Republicans and/or Wingnuts. A lot of Obama's and the Democrats' support comes purely by default, ie today's "conservatives" are mostly fear - based ranting crazies so what choice do the sane people have?

I think people do this internally in order to delegitimize the opinions of those with which they disagree. If you can convince yourself that people are only supporting Obama because they are in some sort of cult, that means you don't have to pay any attention to any other reason why they support him.

 

[Vic]

So the rife corruption at the VA administration, the lies etc are all the fault of .... you guessed it, republicans. Brilliant!

It seems that the VAs problems are mostly the results of inadequate funding. Basically not enough medical professionals staffed to meet the number of patients.

Are you ready - right now - to pay more in taxes so that this can be remedied?

 

[fskimospy]

Everyone should take the time to understand themselves and their own biases before they try to asses those of others. You should try it, you might be surprised.

Again, fail. He is called that because many of his followers behave just like those who follow the dear leader, they organize children school chants praising his name and so forth.

As Vic said, Loonytunes. You've seriously lost it.

 

[PokerGuy]

It seems that the VAs problems are mostly the results of inadequate funding. Basically not enough medical professionals staffed to meet the number of patients.

Of course, all problems can be remedied by just throwing more money at them.

Are you ready - right now - to pay more in taxes so that this can be remedied?

If indeed it turns out that more funding is the answer, and there are no other places to cut funding to pay for it, then yes, I'm OK with my taxes going up to pay for this.... but not until we've cut the hundreds of billions being wasted all over the place.

 

[PokerGuy]

As Vic said, Loonytunes. You've seriously lost it.

Of course, as judged by the person who thinks anyone who has a taste that differs from his own is a bigot and 'bad person' Can't say I'm too concerned about that

 

[thraashman]

Again, fail. He is called that because many of his followers behave just like those who follow the dear leader, they organize children school chants praising his name and so forth.

So we should refer to people like you, michal1980, and boomerang as what, racists? Since a racist is a person with an irrational hatred based on race. Or perhaps homophobes, the irrational fear of sexual preference? Same rationale as you're using. Calling you a racist doesn't indicate you specifically hate Obama because of his race but refers to your irrational hatred that is identical to those who hate based on race.

Personally I think the term fucktarded fits best, but that hasn't seemed to catch on yet.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm sure every presidential transition team, every president has heard about this...it's been fucked for years.

Doesn't excuse Obama, or anyone, for ignoring it, though.

 

[Thebobo]

Michelle Malkin? only way I would listen or watch her is with a 3 way with Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

Well maybe not..

 

[PokerGuy]

So we should refer to people like you, michal1980, and boomerang as what, racists? Since a racist is a person with an irrational hatred based on race.

Stupid comment, I have no hatred for anyone based on race, nor would anyone who knows me ever describe me as racist. I have little tolerance for racists, and that includes those who think racism in the name of fixing racism is OK and those who trivialize racism by complaining that everything is racist.

but refers to your irrational hatred that is identical to those who hate based on race.

Analogy fail, but that's expected given your limited abilities.

 

[PokerGuy]

I'm sure every presidential transition team, every president has heard about this...it's been f*cked for years.

Doesn't excuse Obama, or anyone, for ignoring it, though.

Absolutely, it's been a mess for a long time, long before the current idiot took office. Still, he's the current potus, and he's the one feigning indignance about it now that he's 'finding out' about it. If he was that indignant about it, he should have done something about it. Either he just chose not to, or he's incompetent (or both).

 

[thraashman]

Stupid comment, I have no hatred for anyone based on race, nor would anyone who knows me ever describe me as racist. I have little tolerance for racists, and that includes those who think racism in the name of fixing racism is OK and those who trivialize racism by complaining that everything is racist.



Analogy fail, but that's expected given your limited abilities.

Well, analogy perfect actually hence why you have issue with it. Your attempts to make an analogy between North Koreans and Americans who don't share your irrational hatred of Obama isn't anywhere near as close to the truth as your insane behavior regarding the President and racists' view towards people of color. Though it is interesting that you acknowledge the analogy but still argue against it as if it weren't an analogy first. Which goes to show why I think fucktarded is the proper term.

 

[hal2kilo]

says the guy blaming republicans for this none story.

And since when are the Washington Times or 'The Times' ultra right wing sources?

your redefining right wing then.

Since the Washington Star was bought out by the Moonies, duh!

 

[PokerGuy]

Though it is interesting that you acknowledge the analogy but still argue against it as if it weren't an analogy first.

I said it was a failed analogy. It makes no sense and is completely irrelevant.

 

[chucky2]

I haven't read the link, but, I'm reading SecDef Gates book right now and remember scandals coming up when he was running Defense. Doesn't sound like something new. And telling Team Bummer about anything the first year they were in office can be excused by them still in campaign mode. If this shit is still happening, then, that would be pretty F'd up.

I can't believe how badly we take care of our vets and our elderly in this country...

 

[thraashman]

I said it was a failed analogy. It makes no sense and is completely irrelevant.

Well it makes slightly more sense and is at least as relevant as your "Dear Leader" analogy. More provably accurate too. Hence why I made it. If you don't want someone to make a dumb analogy, maybe you shouldn't make a far dumber one first.