Obama knew about VA issues in 2008

[boomerang]

The question is, besides doubling the budget, what did team Obama do to change the corruption within the VA system? Reports are that Obama had not met with Shinseki for two years. Everybody involved is shocked. They're mad as hell. And of course Obama knows nuttin' about nuttin' until he hears about it in the news.

http://michellemalkin.com/2014/05/1...-obama-knew-about-vas-cooked-books-for-years/

The Obama administration received clear notice more than five years ago that VA medical facilities were reporting inaccurate waiting times and experiencing scheduling failures that threatened to deny veterans timely health care — problems that have turned into a growing scandal.

Veterans Affairs officials warned the Obama-Biden transition team in the weeks after the 2008 presidential election that the department shouldn’t trust the wait times that its facilities were reporting.

“This is not only a data integrity issue in which [Veterans Health Administration] reports unreliable performance data; it affects quality of care by delaying — and potentially denying — deserving veterans timely care,” the officials wrote.

The briefing materials, obtained by The Washington Times through the Freedom of Information Act, make clear that the problems existed well before Mr. Obama took office, dating back at least to the Bush administration. But the materials raise questions about what actions the department took since 2009 to remedy the problems.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...during-20/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

And of course the lapdog media has once again chosen to ignore the latest scandal from an administration that excels in one thing and one thing only. Creating scandals.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffre...owing-obama-administration-knew-about-ongoing

 

[michal1980]

your wrong. Obama learns everything through the media, if the news doesn't report it, his intelligence team, and vast network of uber smart assistants have no clue it happened.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Fast-Furious-reporter-snooping-scandals.html

 

[PokerGuy]

And of course the lapdog media has once again chosen to ignore the latest scandal from an administration that excels in one thing and one thing only. Creating scandals.

Oh common now, we all know these are just "fake scandals" cooked up by the vast right wing main stream media

obummer basically claims to know nothing until it becomes politically expedient to 'find out about it', and then he can proclaim his outrage and that it will not be tolerated. Sad thing is, most of the lackeys on the left are gullible enough to believe it -- over and over again.

Fast & furious? Never hoid of it. IRS scandal? What you talking about willis? Benghazi? Vast right wing conspiracy. DoJ spying on members of the media? No idea. Spying on Merkel? Huh what? Obummercare website a disaster? Nobody told him. And on and on and on and on.

For a guy who's touted as being so smart or even brilliant, he sure doesn't seem to know much. And then, when he does "find out", he'll feign indignation, claim to get to the bottom of it, and then start some sham investigation that will of course never go anywhere. Hey, remember that investigation into the gun running into mexico by holder and his cronies? How's that one going? lol

 

[fskimospy]

What's funny is that this is something that people should be genuinely angry at Obama about. The main problem is that you clowns have been so desperate for something to call a scandal for years, that nobody takes you seriously anymore because everything else you've tried to label a scandal has been bullshit.

 

[kage69]

Obama should fire Shinseki immediately. For starters. Shinseki said he was going to clean up the VA and he didn't. As a disabled veteran himself with 6 years to work on that, I'm amazed he didn't.

I've supported Shinseki in the past, but he fucked up big time here and needs to be held accountable. Any VA people involved with the falsification of documents and orchestration of those incredible death causing delays needs some hefty prison time.

 

[Vic]

Interesting.. but Obama wasn't President in 2008.

 

[PokerGuy]

What's funny is that this is something that people should be genuinely angry at Obama about. The main problem is that you clowns have been so desperate for something to call a scandal for years, that nobody takes you seriously anymore because everything else you've tried to label a scandal has been bullsh*t.

Oh, but of course. It's all the conservative's fault. When things happen under our dear leaders' watch, it's still the conservatives fault.

 

[shortylickens]

Interesting.. but Obama wasn't President in 2008.

No, but he was running. And he was talking to government people.


Also, I dont blame Obama for the current situation. The VA was a freaking mess long before he even decided to run. Bush and Clinton share much more culpability here.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Interesting.. but Obama wasn't President in 2008.

Well that's his fault too isn't it?

 

[michal1980]

What's funny is that this is something that people should be genuinely angry at Obama about. The main problem is that you clowns have been so desperate for something to call a scandal for years, that nobody takes you seriously anymore because everything else you've tried to label a scandal has been bullshit.

Wrong. The lmsm made every scandal 'fake' because they wanted to protect their guy.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh, but of course. It's all the conservative's fault. When things happen under our dear leaders' watch, it's still the conservatives fault.

I'm not sure how what I wrote got translated to that in your head. What I'm telling you is that conservatives have lost the ability to credibly criticize Obama because of their obsession with phony scandals. If you guys actually cared about improving government you would go after real problems instead of feverishly working on fake ones.

Obama Derangement Syndrome is a powerful force though, I guess.

 

[fskimospy]

No, but he was running. And he was talking to government people.

Also, I dont blame Obama for the current situation. The VA was a freaking mess long before he even decided to run. Bush and Clinton share much more culpability here.

The VA is actually much less of a mess than people think. The overall satisfaction ratings from vets for it is extremely high, even though they don't like the wait times. None of that means that what happened here is in any way acceptable, of course.

 

[michal1980]

No, but he was running. And he was talking to government people.


Also, I dont blame Obama for the current situation. The VA was a freaking mess long before he even decided to run. Bush and Clinton share much more culpability here.

when does he take blame? he's been in charge for 5+ years now.

 

[michal1980]

The VA is actually much less of a mess than people think. The overall satisfaction ratings from vets for it is extremely high, even though they don't like the wait times. None of that means that what happened here is in any way acceptable, of course.

really surveys? or fake surveys with the bad results held back?

 

[fskimospy]

really surveys? or fake surveys with the bad results held back?

lol. You are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. A mindless bot who comes by and posts fake or misleading stories from ultra right wing sources and when they are disproven you simply run away to find another. You have no interest in this outside of the fact that you might be able to use it to attack Obama. Disgusting.

I wonder if any conservatives are interested in actually discussing what should be done.

 

[Vic]

No, but he was running. And he was talking to government people.


Also, I dont blame Obama for the current situation. The VA was a freaking mess long before he even decided to run. Bush and Clinton share much more culpability here.

Agreed. The VA has been screwed up for as long it's existed. I was just poking fun at the OP as he's a known ODS sufferer and all the articles he posted in his OP are from non - credible sources.

 

[theeedude]

So these are problems that started under Bush that Obama now has to clean up? As usual.

 

[PokerGuy]

I'm not sure how what I wrote got translated to that in your head. What I'm telling you is that conservatives have lost the ability to credibly criticize Obama because of their obsession with phony scandals. If you guys actually cared about improving government you would go after real problems instead of feverishly working on fake ones.

That's the problem, you actually believe that all the other scandals are "phony". This is just another in a long string of REAL scandals under the dear leader, though you only choose to believe this one is not "phony".

 

[PokerGuy]

Interesting.. but Obama wasn't President in 2008.

We now know he knew about a lot of this stuff back in 2009. Now he's feigning outrage about it. What exactly did he do over the past 5 years to address the issues that he's now outraged about but knew about back then?

Also, Bush / Clinton are definitely responsible for the same things, but they are not the current president, they are irrelevant at this point.

 

[thraashman]

So these are problems that started under Bush that Obama now has to clean up? As usual.

And he should totally be taken to task for not doing enough to clean them up. Granted, the situation since Bush has actually improved from what I've read, more definitely needs to be done.

Of course so long as the right continues to vote against or filibuster every bit of legislation aimed at improving the lives of veterans, they're going to be directly at fault for the deaths of (let's call them what they are, GOP murders of) veterans, but blame Obama.

You know like how Arizona's lax gun laws were the main problem with Fast & Furious but they blame Obama. Or how Republicans cut security funding for consulates and then blame Obama for a lack of security. Or how hundreds of GOP PACS were illegitimately filing for tax exempt status and then blame Obama when more of them were given scrutiny. Or how the GOP caused an economic meltdown and then get mad at Obama for not fixing it fast enough despite attempting to block everything he does to fix it.

Not to say Obama deserves no blame, but the GOP need also look in the mirror and accept a huge share of blame.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

This issue is hardly partisan. The VA has had issues for decades now - neither party should get a pass on this. The bubble finally burst on Obama's watch so it is definitely his problem now. This doesn't exonerate Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter ...

 

[fskimospy]

That's the problem, you actually believe that all the other scandals are "phony". This is just another in a long string of REAL scandals under the dear leader, though you only choose to believe this one is not "phony".

You believe this because you live in the right wing bubble. The rest of the country doesn't seem to think so, but I doubt that will affect you guys at all.

Hell, your nickname for your president is to call him a murderous North Korean dictator. That's about all anyone needs to know about how crazed your response to the guy is.

 

[boomerang]

Obama should fire Shinseki immediately. For starters. Shinseki said he was going to clean up the VA and he didn't. As a disabled veteran himself with 6 years to work on that, I'm amazed he didn't.

I've supported Shinseki in the past, but he fucked up big time here and needs to be held accountable. Any VA people involved with the falsification of documents and orchestration of those incredible death causing delays needs some hefty prison time.

Exactly right. Somebody needs to be accountable. If for no other reason than to let everyone else in the .gov know that there will be consequences associated with their actions.

 

[Vic]

Wrong. The lmsm made every scandal 'fake' because they wanted to protect their guy.

Lol?

 

[hal2kilo]

Boomerang, Michal1980, Pokerguy first 3 posts. Who knew.

Edit:Good news for you, after several attempts, it stuck to the wall this time.