Obama is not RobinHood

[nobodyknows]

So I'm confused? Is Obama really Robin Hood, Superman, or the Messiah?? Make up your minds already!!

 

[winnar111]

No, he's not. Even Robin Hood wasn't absurd enough to try to give everyone healthcare.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Sorry to burst your little bubble but aren't you part of the crowd that was whining about "ends justifying the means"? Hmmm.....

RH was never a "hero" to me as I was taught that stealing was wrong at a very young age.


Oh and are you going to answer my previous question or did I catch your little game before you could work it...

OK, great. You don't think Robin Hood is a hero, which I can accept.

How do you feel about the founders of this country? You know, the people who rebelled against the crown, who destroyed property that wasn't theirs, who rebelled against authority, etc. Were they wrong? Their actions were certainly illegal, and we can't ever justify destroying property that doesn't belong to us, can we?

I'm just curious how consistent your beliefs are.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
So I'm confused? Is Obama really Robin Hood, Superman, or the Messiah?? Make up your minds already!!

Are those the only choices? Or are you just pining to see Obama in tights?

Nevermind, I know the answer.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Sorry to burst your little bubble but aren't you part of the crowd that was whining about "ends justifying the means"? Hmmm.....

RH was never a "hero" to me as I was taught that stealing was wrong at a very young age.

You know I'm not a bit surprised you were/are a fan of the Sheriff of Nottingham.

Where did I say I was a fan of his? Oh wait... nowhere. Care to try again?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: sandorski
What I find really funny is how Robin Hood has been turned into a Villain. He wasn't the Villain, the Sherriff of Nottingham and the King were the Villains. Those who make Robin Hood into a Villain only prove their support for Dictatorship and Oppression.

Maybe not a "villain" but definitely a thief/scofflaw.

And Luke Skywalker was a dirty rebel. We have lots of stories and legends about heroes who specifically went against the established order and committed crimes in the name of what was right. Hell, that's how our country was founded; the Boston Tea Party wasn't a legal act of protest, it was a violent destruction of property in the battle against unwarranted taxation. Acting out against unfair laws has long been seen as a heroic act; Robin Hood exemplifies this.

To compare a taxation that you see as "unfair" to a mythological act of heroism... well, that's just not sensible. It undermines your argument. You might as well say that Obama is dumping into Boston Harbor the tea of the nobles, the gall! We were raised to view these stories as acts of heroism. Trying to convince us that they are now acts of evil is not going to work.

They should start calling Obama the Sherriff of Nottingham, or better, Prince John (not that I agree with the comparison, I'm just trying to help you guys out). He was the villain levying the taxes. Rush can come in claiming that he's the Robin Hood figure, the savior, the man fighting the unfair taxation and returning the money to the people who earned it. That's how the myth works. Only a fucking idiot would think that Robin Hood, the hero we've loved since we were kids, could be transformed into a model of socialism and we'd all jump on board.

Robin Hood, the hero we've loved since we were kids

Oh really? I'm sorry, by the age I was able to determine "hero" I was also of the age to know right from wrong and saw RH for the thief he was. Granted, the story line glamorizes it but I'm pretty sure I never considered him a "hero". The rest of your post isn't relevant to my post so at this point I'm going to ignore it since I've not asserted what you attacked.

Wow, just wow. At what age did you eat the Lead Paint?

Sorry to burst your little bubble but aren't you part of the crowd that was whining about "ends justifying the means"? Hmmm.....

RH was never a "hero" to me as I was taught that stealing was wrong at a very young age.


Oh and are you going to answer my previous question or did I catch your little game before you could work it...

You fail at comprehension. You should probably revisit that story, it wasn't about a Common Thief. It was about a Tyrant and one mans struggle against Tyranny.

I'm not using "Ends justify the means" as an argument. You're using an ill informed viewpoint to draw a conclusion.

Robin Hood's argument sure was... and you called him a childhood hero. I never said he was a "common thief". Are you suggesting his wasn't a thief/scofflaw? Or that he was justified due to your hatred of the rich/corrupt sheriff and co?

Also are you ever going to answer my previous question to you?

 

[CLite]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Sorry to burst your little bubble but aren't you part of the crowd that was whining about "ends justifying the means"? Hmmm.....

RH was never a "hero" to me as I was taught that stealing was wrong at a very young age.


Oh and are you going to answer my previous question or did I catch your little game before you could work it...

OK, great. You don't think Robin Hood is a hero, which I can accept.

How do you feel about the founders of this country? You know, the people who rebelled against the crown, who destroyed property that wasn't theirs, who rebelled against authority, etc. Were they wrong? Their actions were certainly illegal, and we can't ever justify destroying property that doesn't belong to us, can we?

I'm just curious how consistent your beliefs are.

Exactly.

Robinhood fought agaisnt oppression by nobility by trying to return their false profits to the people. Our founding fathers fought agaisnt oppression by nobility, they essentially stole all of Britain's land assests in America and gave them back to the people.

Care to exactly detail how Robinhood was a true villain and our founding fathers were not? My point being Robinhood was a noble character in virtue.

*edit* My whole point is to call CAD guy out, this post has nothing to do with the stupid OP about Obama and robinhood.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

You could try and debate this using the income gap, stagnating real wages, rising CEO wages, progressive taxation in a representative democracy, but then what would be asking far too much of the OP and his letter writer, and giving it far too much credit for its mind numbingly lame attempt to hijack an old parable.

S&M

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
So I'm confused? Is Obama really Robin Hood, Superman, or the Messiah?? Make up your minds already!!

Are those the only choices? Or are you just pining to see Obama in tights?

Nevermind, I know the answer.

Do yopu always answer a question with a question.... followed by an ASSumption??


LOL, still smarting, huh!!!

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Obama is no Robinhood, I will be the first to tell you that. Now all the Obamanites here will condemn me in saying that Obama's plans are in his and his parties own interest and not of the public good nor the poor. He is using the "poor" as a meat shield to get his bills to pass without everyone getting pissy.

Andrew you only have 1044 posts compared to winnar111 has 2391......
I sdomehow get the feeling you guys are brothers.....

I am still amazed that your parents would let you play on the computer this late at nite. Especially when you mist have homework to do!!

Hmm, this here seems to show how intelligent you are. I gave my honest opinion and all you do is attempt to poke fun.....

Also post count does not control how smart you are. Just because I only have a little over a thousand post doesnt mean I am dumber or smarter than you.

Then the Winnar111 guy comment, I know a lot of you think he is highly pro Republican which he may as well be. A republican I am not nor a democrat. I dont pledge loyalty to either party, as neither party expresses my views on the world.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I see Obama more the hero figure of Conan the Barbarian . In the end world rule shall be by the sword and religion will lay waste. Not bad . Except the new religion of the sword is most evil of all . It teaches Force and brutality. I think will shall soon see these fine qualities in Obama.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I see Obama more the hero figure of Conan the Barbarian . In the end world rule shall be by the sword and religion will lay waste. Not bad . Except the new religion of the sword is most evil of all . It teaches Force and brutality. I think will shall soon see these fine qualities in Obama.

Tell me what you're using, people should be warned about it, it's obviously a substance that causes severe rotting of the cerebral cortex.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: MooseNSquirrel
You could try and debate this using the income gap, stagnating real wages, rising CEO wages, progressive taxation in a representative democracy, but then what would be asking far too much of the OP and his letter writer, and giving it far too much credit for its mind numbingly lame attempt to hijack an old parable.

S&M

I would throw in reward base on effort, but that would blow your theory out of the water and result in your crying about how unfair the system is. If you want to have this discussion we can, but your fundamental beliefs will be validly attacked and I doubt you have the knowledge to actually defend them.