Obama is down for nuclear power, can I get a hell yea?

[bfdd]

This is fantastic news and a total move in the right direction. Can I get a collective hell yeah from the crowd?

 

[marincounty]

No, hell no.

 

[bobsmith1492]

 

[Zargon]

yes please. Nevada/Utah wont like it, but fuck em

 

[Hacp]

He's just pandering. The day he actually gets any sort of legislation passed is the day I'll donate money to Haiti.

 

[shiner]

Deeds, not words.

Let's see something get accomplished in this area and then I'll celebrate.

 

[bfdd]

Deeds, not words.

Let's see something get accomplished in this area and then I'll celebrate.

I agree actions speak louder than words, but these are some pretty loud words. We haven't heard shit on this from a politician in awhile and most are uninformed and against it. This hopefully could turn into a big step in the right direction. There are already plans for more stimulus spending I would like to see most if not all of it go to infrastructure(we fucking need it) and to build plants. This would be a huge move and he totally gets my approval for bringing it to the plate. I really hope it moves forward.

 

[werepossum]

I agree actions speak louder than words, but these are some pretty loud words. We haven't heard shit on this from a politician in awhile and most are uninformed and against it. This hopefully could turn into a big step in the right direction. There are already plans for more stimulus spending I would like to see most if not all of it go to infrastructure(we fucking need it) and to build plants. This would be a huge move and he totally gets my approval for bringing it to the plate. I really hope it moves forward.

This. All this. Hell yea!

 

[Harvey]

This is fantastic news and a total move in the right direction. Can I get a collective hell yeah from the crowd?

How about a collective HELL, NO! WE WON'T GLOW!

Until there's a way to provide 100% guaranteed failsafe protection against sabotage and operator stupidity and to deal with leaks and radioactive waste, one failure can kill thousands if not millions of people and render an area the size of a mid-sized state uninhabitable for centuries.

It may be possible... someday, but it is not, now.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Maybe we could buy a small country and bury the waste, there?

I think we should build nuclear plants, reduce per capita consumption of electricity and oil by 20%, fix the Nukular waste issue, increase grid efficiency, enable TOU billing, invoke load management at the source, and most importantly:

Eliminate the Nuclear Exclusion Clause in homeowner insurance policies





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[CallMeJoe]

When will the President tell Harry Reid to suck it up because we're going to use the Yucca Mountain storage facility we've sunk billions of dollars into? Without a plan for long-term storage of spent nuclear materials, new reactors are not a clean power source.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

How about a collective HELL, NO! WE WON'T GLOW!

Until there's a way to provide 100% guaranteed failsafe protection against sabotage and operator stupidity and to deal with leaks and radioactive waste, one failure can kill thousands if not millions of people and render an area the size of a mid-sized state uninhabitable for centuries.

It may be possible... someday, but it is not, now.

still as uninformed as ever I see...

 

[Red Dawn]

How about a collective HELL, NO! WE WON'T GLOW!

Until there's a way to provide 100% guaranteed failsafe protection against sabotage and operator stupidity and to deal with leaks and radioactive waste, one failure can kill thousands if not millions of people and render an area the size of a mid-sized state uninhabitable for centuries.

It may be possible... someday, but it is not, now.

That'[s why I say they should all be located in Texas.

 

[bruceb]

American design Light Pressurized Water Reactors, have a very good safety record, provided they are properly constructed. Of most importance is the welding. In the US only 3 Mile Island had an incident and that was Operator Error due to misreading a sensor. Now with more modern computers, such problems should be eliminated. Now, the Russia explosion at Chernoyble is another story, as that is a Graphite Modulated reactor and harder to control than a Light Water unit. Just look at how many are in use in our Navy, on aircraft carriers (they have 3) and on submarines (usually 2) and they are designed to run for 20 years before a refuel is needed. No incidents there either. The only real issue is moving the spent fuel rod to a secure storage area, like Yucca Mountain.

 

[cubeless]

That'[s why I say they should all be located in Texas.

licence them and i bet texas will take as many as they could build...

 

[Red Dawn]

licence them and i bet texas will take as many as they could build...

Actually they have the empty space in West Texas that's be perfect plus all the illegal labor they need to build them cheaply

 

[wiretap]

He doesn't support them. Notice the word choice he used.. "safe, clean nuclear energy". In his opinion, none of the options for nuclear power that produce electricity today are safe or clean. Politicians love using careful word choices like that so they confuse the masses and can always have a fall back when their fringe activist groups and special interests question them. Oh.. by safe and clean I meant something that doesn't exist today... Same old bullshit the left side of the aisle has been pulling for years. I work in the nuclear power industry, so I try keeping on top of the news and politics that affects my job.

 

[bfdd]

He doesn't support them. Notice the word choice he used.. "safe, clean nuclear energy". In his opinion, none of the options for nuclear power that produce electricity today are safe or clean. Politicians love using careful word choices like that so they confuse the masses and can always have a fall back when their fringe activist groups and special interests question them. Oh.. by safe and clean I meant something that doesn't exist today... Same old bullshit the left side of the aisle has been pulling for years. I work in the nuclear power industry, so I try keeping on top of the news and politics that affects my job.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. It wouldn't even of been brought up if it wasn't a consideration. Obama isn't my favorite and there's not a lot I agree with, but I do think he has been seriously contemplating this. Also to where to store the waste, we've had places developed for YEARS now that are just sitting there perfectly capable of storing the waste safely and for the long term but they refuse to use them because of uninformed idiots and hippies holding it back.

This is totally a move in the right direction nuclear power IS safe and it IS clean(er) than what we currently have. Having actually WORKED in some of our oil refineries, gas/oil fields and power plants I can tell you they aren't ANY safer in terms of contamination or tampering than a nuclear plant would be and in most cases worse. It's NOT that hard to get into a refinery where busting one line could crater a large chunk south of Los Angeles.

 

[BrownTown]

He doesn't support them. Notice the word choice he used.. "safe, clean nuclear energy". In his opinion, none of the options for nuclear power that produce electricity today are safe or clean. Politicians love using careful word choices like that so they confuse the masses and can always have a fall back when their fringe activist groups and special interests question them. Oh.. by safe and clean I meant something that doesn't exist today... Same old bullshit the left side of the aisle has been pulling for years. I work in the nuclear power industry, so I try keeping on top of the news and politics that affects my job.

I work in the nuclear industry so I follow this issue VERY closely, and wiretap has hit the nail EXACTLY on the head here. Obama often says he is for "safe and clean" nuclear power in speeches, but he invariably always contends that any nuclear plant will not be clean and safe and therefore will not allow them to be approved. Obama is 100% plain and simple against nuclear PERIOD. If you want to know what a politician believes you can't look at what he SAYS, you have to look at what he DOES. Obama has always said he was pro-nuclear, but he replaced the chairman of the NRC with an anti-nuclear democratic staffer with no technical background. The other big thing Obama has done was to decide not to fund the NRC, so it is impossible to get a license through the NRC because they don't have the money to review it. This is what happened to Yucca Mountain, the license application was submitted by the company I work for, but a grand total of $0 was allocated by the NRC to review it. This allows Obama and palls to say waste is an issue making nuclear "un-clean" even though Obama and Harry Reid (democrats) are the entire reason Yucca Mountain is not in operation. The idea is to strangle the nuclear industry by not allowing any new plants to be built or any waste repository to be built.

 

[Acanthus]

How about a collective HELL, NO! WE WON'T GLOW!

Until there's a way to provide 100% guaranteed failsafe protection against sabotage and operator stupidity and to deal with leaks and radioactive waste, one failure can kill thousands if not millions of people and render an area the size of a mid-sized state uninhabitable for centuries.

It may be possible... someday, but it is not, now.

Liquid salt thorium reactors.

Half lives under 1000 years for the worst isotopes, 100 fold decrease in waste, 50% more efficient than current dinosaur reactors in our fleet of nuke plants. Passive fail safes that require no human intervention to stop a reaction.

Mining coal kills more people per year than nuclear power has killed since the discovery of nuclear energy.

 

[bfdd]

I work in the nuclear industry so I follow this issue VERY closely, and wiretap has hit the nail EXACTLY on the head here. Obama often says he is for "safe and clean" nuclear power in speeches, but he invariably always contends that any nuclear plant will not be clean and safe and therefore will not allow them to be approved. Obama is 100% plain and simple against nuclear PERIOD. If you want to know what a politician believes you can't look at what he SAYS, you have to look at what he DOES. Obama has always said he was pro-nuclear, but he replaced the chairman of the NRC with an anti-nuclear democratic staffer with no technical background. The other big thing Obama has done was to decide not to fund the NRC, so it is impossible to get a license through the NRC because they don't have the money to review it. This is what happened to Yucca Mountain, the license application was submitted by the company I work for, but a grand total of $0 was allocated by the NRC to review it. This allows Obama and palls to say waste is an issue making nuclear "un-clean" even though Obama and Harry Reid (democrats) are the entire reason Yucca Mountain is not in operation. The idea is to strangle the nuclear industry by not allowing any new plants to be built or any waste repository to be built.

Maybe you guys are right, but this man ran a campaign on hope and change. So I'm hoping for some change especially on this matter. I think this would be a huge move in the right direction for our nation.

 

[nageov3t]

sometimes I wonder if maybe McCain and Obama struck a secret deal.

McCain agreed to cede the election to Obama (by picking Palin as his VP) in exchange for Obama leading the Bush/McCain agenda into 2012.

 

[Cogman]

I work in the nuclear industry so I follow this issue VERY closely, and wiretap has hit the nail EXACTLY on the head here. Obama often says he is for "safe and clean" nuclear power in speeches, but he invariably always contends that any nuclear plant will not be clean and safe and therefore will not allow them to be approved. Obama is 100% plain and simple against nuclear PERIOD. If you want to know what a politician believes you can't look at what he SAYS, you have to look at what he DOES. Obama has always said he was pro-nuclear, but he replaced the chairman of the NRC with an anti-nuclear democratic staffer with no technical background. The other big thing Obama has done was to decide not to fund the NRC, so it is impossible to get a license through the NRC because they don't have the money to review it. This is what happened to Yucca Mountain, the license application was submitted by the company I work for, but a grand total of $0 was allocated by the NRC to review it. This allows Obama and palls to say waste is an issue making nuclear "un-clean" even though Obama and Harry Reid (democrats) are the entire reason Yucca Mountain is not in operation. The idea is to strangle the nuclear industry by not allowing any new plants to be built or any waste repository to be built.

Question, Have you ever met someone with a technical background that is against nuclear power? I personally have not.

Nuclear: Clean, safe, cheap, and sustainable. The way of the future. The thing is, people can't enact social policies about how long we can keep our lights on if there is pretty much an unlimited supply of electricity. They also can't really push expensive "green" tech.

There are several industries out there that hope that nuclear fails, from the oil/gas industry to the green industries (funny, they both agree to hate nuclear). It is hated tech because it makes a lot obsolete.

The whole rouse about "OMG, it makes POISONS that stay poisonous for 1000's of years!!!" is laughable at best. Guess what, all other forms of power generation create poisons that NEVER go away and get dumped in common unprotected grounds, yet this is ok. that waste is "natural"

Anyways, Let the games begin. Can't wait for all the insane anti-nuke people to wander in and start spreading their FUD about how the entire earth will become toxic from nuclear plants.

 

[charrison]

How about a collective HELL, NO! WE WON'T GLOW!

Until there's a way to provide 100% guaranteed failsafe protection against sabotage and operator stupidity and to deal with leaks and radioactive waste, one failure can kill thousands if not millions of people and render an area the size of a mid-sized state uninhabitable for centuries.

It may be possible... someday, but it is not, now.

Nothing is 100% safe, but all these problems we can manage without a problem.

 

[Strk]

Maybe do something about reprocessing (do they even allow it yet?) or the ban on reactors with any positive void coefficient. Advanced CANDU reactors are awesome, but we can't build them in this country because of that. We aren't trying to build a Chernobyl-style reactor, so it's not like it's a major issue.