Obama is blaming Fox News for Hillary's loss in the election

[jammix]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/11/30/obama-knocks-fox-news-for-clintons-loss.html

The only show they had on Fox News that was Pro-Trump was Hannity, that is a 30 minute show .. while meagyn kelly and others slammed trump for hours and hours.

I find it hilarious that even though they hate each other, he's still out there parading for Hillary. Yeah, it's Fox News that caused her to lose because they weren't cramming as much propaganda down our throats like the other networks
hillary had 24/7 coverage of anti-trump on cnn, msnbc, cbs, etc with fox biased as well 23.5 hours a day

And who goes to a bar to watch the news? Is that a conservative thing? The only thing they have on in the bars I go to are sports, music videos.

 

[HomerJS]

You are not quite right. Fox News gave Trump practically unlimited air time for over 5 years leading up to his running for pushing his racist bullshit birther theories. Fox hosts helped him in duping red state rubes.

 

[boomerang]

It's important to remember that the progressive left judges themselves based on their intentions not the results. Therefore if they lose an election somebody else is to blame. They intended to win, but they lost, but it's not their fault. They're actually winners because they intended to win.

It's some seriously convoluted thinking but it does explain why they seem to have their heads up their asses most of the time.

Even if you're the POTUS, "the man" has still got his boot on your neck. They just can't shake that victim mentality.

 

[fskimospy]

It's important to remember that the progressive left judges themselves based on their intentions not the results. Therefore if they lose an election somebody else is to blame. They intended to win, but they lost, but it's not their fault. They're actually winners because they intended to win.

It's some seriously convoluted thinking but it does explain why they seem to have their heads up their asses most of the time.

Even if you're the POTUS, "the man" has still got his boot on your neck. They just can't shake that victim mentality.

Coming from the people who constantly complain about how the media, scientists, economists, fact checkers, the government, etc are all conspiring against them this is a pretty hilariously unaware post.

Modern American conservatism is based on a culture of perpetual voctimhood.

 

[FerrelGeek]

And much of the rest of the media gave him free air time during the campaign. Face it; the boob played the superior beings of the left for much of his campaign. It's the left's believing their own press that they're the elite, the ones with the right to govern the masses, that blinded them to reality. Your candidate was a nasty, spiteful old hag who acted like the world owed her the election. As other's have said, she didn't offer any compelling reason for the non elites to vote for her.

So many libs remind me of Khan and his sidekick in ST2. 'Ours is the superior!!!' Just keep telling yourselves that. Worked out well for Khan.

You are not quite right. Fox News gave Trump practically unlimited air time for over 5 years leading up to his running for pushing his racist bullshit birther theories. Fox hosts helped him in duping red state rubes.

 

[fskimospy]

And much of the rest of the media gave him free air time during the campaign. Face it; the boob played the superior beings of the left for much of his campaign. It's the left's believing their own press that they're the elite, the ones with the right to govern the masses, that blinded them to reality. Your candidate was a nasty, spiteful old hag who acted like the world owed her the election. As other's have said, she didn't offer any compelling reason for the non elites to vote for her.

So many libs remind me of Khan and his sidekick in ST2. 'Ours is the superior!!!' Just keep telling yourselves that. Worked out well for Khan.

I always think it's funny that people keep trying to argue that someone who won the popular vote by millions of votes was somehow only appealing to the elite.

I mean think about that for a minute.

 

[Kazukian]

Remember, you should only get your news from "approved" sources.

 

[PokerGuy]

I always think it's funny that people keep trying to argue that someone who won the popular vote by millions of votes was somehow only appealing to the elite.

I mean think about that for a minute.

Wait, there was an election based on popular vote, and she won it?? Who knew?

You're heavily discounting the millions that voted for her simply because Trump is a jackass and they couldn't stomach him. Many if not most who voted "for" her probably actually voted against him and chose her as the lesser of evils. If you want to believe she had such massive appeal despite the fact that she could not defeat arguably the worst most disliked candidate in history, go right ahead.....

 

[fskimospy]

Wait, there was an election based on popular vote, and she won it?? Who knew?

You're heavily discounting the millions that voted for her simply because Trump is a jackass and they couldn't stomach him. Many if not most who voted "for" her probably actually voted against him and chose her as the lesser of evils. If you want to believe she had such massive appeal despite the fact that she could not defeat arguably the worst most disliked candidate in history, go right ahead.....

I didn't say she had some great mass appeal, I just think it's silly to try and claim that only the elites voted for the person who got the most votes.

 

[boomerang]

Remember, you should only get your news from "approved" sources.

Exactly. It's the only way to know for sure that you're getting the current truth.

 

[Lash444]

Wait, there was an election based on popular vote, and she won it?? Who knew?

You're heavily discounting the millions that voted for her simply because Trump is a jackass and they couldn't stomach him. Many if not most who voted "for" her probably actually voted against him and chose her as the lesser of evils. If you want to believe she had such massive appeal despite the fact that she could not defeat arguably the worst most disliked candidate in history, go right ahead.....

Anything you can do to blame the left. I don't know if you remember this, but I can remember people saying that Hillary was only getting 1k people attending her rallies, meanwhile Trump was filling stadiums. Trump's follower numbers were considerably larger. Trump signs dotted the landscape of rural America.

Prior to the election all we heard was that if Hillary won, the election had to be rigged because NOBODY saw any support for Hillary. Now after the election, rather than taking credit for your party being filled with a bunch of racist dbags, and as you so eloquently put it, voting for "the worst most disliked candidate in history", now you blame it on Hillary's supporters because the only reason anyone voted Trump was because Hillary was so disliked. You honestly believe that drivel?

Do you actually think about anything that you post before you post it? Did you watch any of the Trump rallys? Did you not hear anything about Bernie Bros? Trump was the Troll King of racist white America. They loved his message. You don't fill stadiums of people the way he did unless they like whatever snakeoil that you are selling.

 

[kage69]

I'm not surprised that some think Fox's pro-Trump content are all that's important here, and not more than a decade of anti-Hillary content.

#bubblelife

 

[Thump553]

Fox News has been running nearly nonstop anti-Clinton crap since it's inception, giving vast and overwhelming coverage to all the BS conspiracy theories, etc. How many thousands of air hours do you think Fox spent on Benghazi and the purported email scandal in the last two plus years?

Anything But Hillary was their real motto.

 

[Lash444]

I'm not surprised that some think Fox's pro-Trump content are all that's important here, and not more than a decade of anti-Hillary content.

#bubblelife

If they had the intelligence to realize that the content they were watching was political propaganda, they wouldn't be duped by it in the first place. Character assassination is clearly extremely effective. Even though most of Hillary's scandals were unproven or dismissed, and Donald's (lawsuits, Trump U, racist rhetoric) were not even questioned because they were clearly undebatable, she was still the one with the label and stigma of being crooked.
Fox, Breitbart, and the right have it down to a science. Even though Trump isn't even President yet, and he has basically retracted every promise he made during his campaign, his followers don't even care. If tomorrow Trump said he was moving forward on getting Clinton locked up over Benghazi, but needed them to meet him in Washington with pitch forks, their numbers would dwarf the million man march.

 

[buckshot24]

Coming from the people who constantly complain about how the media, scientists, economists, fact checkers, the government, etc are all conspiring against them this is a pretty hilariously unaware post.

Modern American conservatism is based on a culture of perpetual voctimhood.

It isn't a conspiracy, they are just liberal hacks who can't help themselves.

 

[PokerGuy]

Fox News has been running nearly nonstop anti-Clinton crap since it's inception, giving vast and overwhelming coverage to all the BS conspiracy theories, etc. How many thousands of air hours do you think Fox spent on Benghazi and the purported email scandal in the last two plus years?.

So what? Do you really think the people who watch fox were going to vote illary? Fox bashing her doesn't do anything to change the election outcome because the people who watch fox were going to vote for the R candidate anyway. Fox also bashed obummer around the clock, and it obviously didn't hinder him at all. The reason it worked so well with her is that she made it really easy to dislike her.

 

[Jaskalas]

Anything But Hillary was their real motto.

Then you tried to call their bluff.
Turns out you really DID get anything but Hillary.

 

[Jhhnn]

Anything you can do to blame the left. I don't know if you remember this, but I can remember people saying that Hillary was only getting 1k people attending her rallies, meanwhile Trump was filling stadiums. Trump's follower numbers were considerably larger. Trump signs dotted the landscape of rural America.

Prior to the election all we heard was that if Hillary won, the election had to be rigged because NOBODY saw any support for Hillary. Now after the election, rather than taking credit for your party being filled with a bunch of racist dbags, and as you so eloquently put it, voting for "the worst most disliked candidate in history", now you blame it on Hillary's supporters because the only reason anyone voted Trump was because Hillary was so disliked. You honestly believe that drivel?

Do you actually think about anything that you post before you post it? Did you watch any of the Trump rallys? Did you not hear anything about Bernie Bros? Trump was the Troll King of racist white America. They loved his message. You don't fill stadiums of people the way he did unless they like whatever snakeoil that you are selling.

If they had the intelligence to realize that the content they were watching was political propaganda, they wouldn't be duped by it in the first place. Character assassination is clearly extremely effective. Even though most of Hillary's scandals were unproven or dismissed, and Donald's (lawsuits, Trump U, racist rhetoric) were not even questioned because they were clearly undebatable, she was still the one with the label and stigma of being crooked.
Fox, Breitbart, and the right have it down to a science. Even though Trump isn't even President yet, and he has basically retracted every promise he made during his campaign, his followers don't even care. If tomorrow Trump said he was moving forward on getting Clinton locked up over Benghazi, but needed them to meet him in Washington with pitch forks, their numbers would dwarf the million man march.

Thank you. Well said. Too many people try to make Trumpism about something it's not. It's straight up culture war.

 

[fskimospy]

So what? Do you really think the people who watch fox were going to vote illary? Fox bashing her doesn't do anything to change the election outcome because the people who watch fox were going to vote for the R candidate anyway. Fox also bashed obummer around the clock, and it obviously didn't hinder him at all. The reason it worked so well with her is that she made it really easy to dislike her.

That's not what the research shows:

http://www.nber.org/papers/w12169

We find a significant effect of the introduction of Fox News on the vote share in Presidential elections between 1996 and 2000. Republicans gain 0.4 to 0.7 percentage points in the towns which broadcast Fox News. The results are robust to town-level controls, district and county fixed effects, and alternative specifications. We also find a significant effect of Fox News on Senate vote share and on voter turnout. Our estimates imply that Fox News convinced 3 to 8 percent of its viewers to vote Republican.

 

[PokerGuy]

Now after the election, rather than taking credit for your party being filled with a bunch of racist dbags, and as you so eloquently put it, voting for "the worst most disliked candidate in history", now you blame it on Hillary's supporters because the only reason anyone voted Trump was because Hillary was so disliked. You honestly believe that drivel?

You're tying yourself up in illogical drivel. I didn't blame her supporters for anything. The fact is, her supporters didn't show at the polls in the same numbers as they did in prior elections for obummer. That's because she was a terrible candidate. She still got a lot of votes because she was running against a historically bad (and disliked) opponent. The bottom line was that in this election I would say most of the voters didn't vote for anyone, they voted against the other candidate or at least picked the lesser of evils. They were both terrible candidates.

Did you watch any of the Trump rallys? Did you not hear anything about Bernie Bros? Trump was the Troll King of racist white America. They loved his message. You don't fill stadiums of people the way he did unless they like whatever snakeoil that you are selling.

Yawn, the typical lib whining about racistm/sexism/whatever and evil white racist America is worthless. The polls show that Trump was not a liked candidate, even by the people who voted for him. For example, 63% of voters thought Trump didn't have the temperament to be president..... but 30% of those who didn't think he had the right temperament still voted for him over the other awful candidate. He was just the outsider, the lesser of the evils.

 

[PokerGuy]

Thank you. Well said. Too many people try to make Trumpism about something it's not. It's straight up culture war.

Yeah, just ignore all actual evidence and go with that.

 

[HomerJS]

You're tying yourself up in illogical drivel. I didn't blame her supporters for anything. The fact is, her supporters didn't show at the polls in the same numbers as they did in prior elections for obummer. That's because she was a terrible candidate. She still got a lot of votes because she was running against a historically bad (and disliked) opponent. The bottom line was that in this election I would say most of the voters didn't vote for anyone, they voted against the other candidate or at least picked the lesser of evils. They were both terrible candidates.



Yawn, the typical lib whining about racistm/sexism/whatever and evil white racist America is worthless. The polls show that Trump was not a liked candidate, even by the people who voted for him. For example, 63% of voters thought Trump didn't have the temperament to be president..... but 30% of those who didn't think he had the right temperament still voted for him over the other awful candidate. He was just the outsider, the lesser of the evils.

Most of the people who voted were for Hillary. Trump managed to dupe all those red state rubes.

As for the racism thing its easy to pin on Trump when he hired a white supremacist supporter to be his chief advisor and work out of the White House. The Klan must be so proud.

 

[PokerGuy]

That's not what the research shows:

http://www.nber.org/papers/w12169

Oh golly gee, when a channel was introduced to an area that previously only had liberal media outlets, conservative votes increased. Shocking, who would have thought that! That study was based on areas where fox was newly introduced, it says nothing about them making a significant difference in terms of reducing the illary vote because they bashed her. If that was the case you'd have seen the same impact on obummer and that simply wasn't the case.

 

[Moonbeam]

Fox News is a propaganda machine the purpose of which is to supply a socially sanctioned sense of community for idiots to feel proud of their idiocy. Without social support and encouragement idiots soon learn to keep their idiocy to themselves. Fox News is a ballroom where lip stick adorned swine can gather to dance. In this way they rot America from within. They make us proud to be garbage, low life, scum-sucked swill. And the beauty of it all is that once you fall for it, you will never ever want to know it. Who wants to see their shit. That's why it's so important for conservatives to love liberals, the repository of their projections, the place they see themselves. It's the only way they can ever begin to mend and heal themselves. If any of you want to kiss me, I'm wearing my lipstick.

 

[jammix]

You're tying yourself up in illogical drivel. I didn't blame her supporters for anything. The fact is, her supporters didn't show at the polls in the same numbers as they did in prior elections for obummer. That's because she was a terrible candidate. She still got a lot of votes because she was running against a historically bad (and disliked) opponent. The bottom line was that in this election I would say most of the voters didn't vote for anyone, they voted against the other candidate or at least picked the lesser of evils. They were both terrible candidates.



Yawn, the typical lib whining about racistm/sexism/whatever and evil white racist America is worthless. The polls show that Trump was not a liked candidate, even by the people who voted for him. For example, 63% of voters thought Trump didn't have the temperament to be president..... but 30% of those who didn't think he had the right temperament still voted for him over the other awful candidate. He was just the outsider, the lesser of the evils.

Shame on america if that horrible woman had been elected !!!

Those idiots libs dont understand they voted for a psycho Evil bitch. check out her behavior after matt lauer interview who asked about her emails...