Capt Caveman
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Joe Biden two days ago listed the mark as $150k. I don't feel like searching youtube for it, just turn on Fox News, they'll be playing the clips a lot I'm sure. :evil:
But I mean, look at history, in 1933 Hoover raised taxes on those making $100k+, and just look at the wonders that did on avoiding the Great Depression...
Families below 200,000 Taxcut
Families between 200,001 and 249,999 Nothing
Families Over 250,000 Payup bitches
campaigning 101.
when you're ahead, you can afford to go positive.
when you're behind, you go negative or you give up.
and clean campaigning? come on, Barack's first gen-el ads were FUD targeted to seniors about how McCain was going to destroy their social security.
sandorski
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Joe Biden two days ago listed the mark as $150k. I don't feel like searching youtube for it, just turn on Fox News, they'll be playing the clips a lot I'm sure. :evil:
But I mean, look at history, in 1933 Hoover raised taxes on those making $100k+, and just look at the wonders that did on avoiding the Great Depression...
Kind of hard to avoid something that you are right in the middle of. $100k back then was likely >$10million today, as well.
And that's why McCain is going to lose next week. Whether you agree with his views or not, Obama has done a pretty good job with this ad laying out his views and plans in rather great detail, and crafting a complete message for why he wants to be President. McCain's response is a snotty remark that would be embarrassing in a high school debate class.
Views aside, McCain just has absolutely no game...not even a little bit. He can't run a campaign, he can't craft a message and he can't give people a good reason to vote for him. He's running an even sadder version of Kerry's "Anybody But Bush" campaign from 2004, and making Kerry look like a political genius in the process. At least Kerry picked a good target, McCain is trying to run a similar campaign as part of the unpopular political establishment targeting the popular underdog. Who thought THAT was a good idea?
Capt Caveman
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Nope, just not stupid enough to drink the Kool-Aid. Does Obama have a detailed economic plan on how he's actually going to pay to rebuild the military? You'd think with all of his donation money, he could develop a detailed economic plan/budget for the current economic state and beyond.
And if you don't think he's going to flip-flop on a number of his promises after the election, you're kidding yourself.
I'm completely for his social issues but find his economic policy to be poorly conceptualized and make believe.
And what part of that has to do with making up things about his tax cut plan?
Being skeptical is good, voting based on what you see in your crystal ball is pretty idiotic.
so you believe in the bush plan because mccain is doing the exact same thing...except he is not going to tax the rich, middle or poor.
Pretty tame and boring, which is a good thing since Obama's up.
The interesting thing would be if McCain had this much money. Would he just spend a half-hour talking about how Obama's a commie?
The interesting thing would be if McCain had this much money. Would he just spend a half-hour talking about how Obama's a commie?
Capt Caveman
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No, both of their plans suck. Sorry, I know I will have to accept whoever wins and their plan but I don't have to agree with either plan.
Capt Caveman
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then dont tell us you are not voting for him because he has a poor economic plan when obviously there is another reason.
The biggest thing I see in this election, and the ad just reinforces it...
Over half a billion more dollars spent and just a couple percentage points ahead in the polls.
Obama is a master of reciting talking points. The only solid platform Obama has been winning on is that he is not George Bush.
Government is corrupt. Democrats are corrupt. Republicans are corrupt. The only way the government can help us is to first fix themselves. And that is *not* what Obama will be doing. He believes government has some magic wand that when waived can magically make everyone's problems go away. And the only reason the masses are believing this is because they are still overwhelmed by their dislike of George Bush. Government is *not* the answer. At least not right now.
There I've said my peace. Now I will never again venture into this cesspool of a forum.
Over half a billion more dollars spent and just a couple percentage points ahead in the polls.
Obama is a master of reciting talking points. The only solid platform Obama has been winning on is that he is not George Bush.
Government is corrupt. Democrats are corrupt. Republicans are corrupt. The only way the government can help us is to first fix themselves. And that is *not* what Obama will be doing. He believes government has some magic wand that when waived can magically make everyone's problems go away. And the only reason the masses are believing this is because they are still overwhelmed by their dislike of George Bush. Government is *not* the answer. At least not right now.
There I've said my peace. Now I will never again venture into this cesspool of a forum.
BeauJangles
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Rebuild the military? Our idiotic Senate just approved a $650 billion dollar budget for the armed forces for FY 2009. If the Pentagon can't "fix" or "repair" itself with that much money, then what do you expect Obama to do?
That's all he's been talking about for the last month or so, campaign time which has added up to far more than 30 minutes. If he doesn't have a better message now, I don't imagine more campaign funds would help improve it.
People are arguing that Obama is going to buy the election, but even if they swapped campaign war chests I don't think it would help McCain...because McCain doesn't have enough to fill a 30 minute spot even if he could afford it. It's true that money helps, but money can't turn nothing into something.
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