Obama has raised almost half a billion dollars

[XZeroII]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27038128/

Pay no attention to the main focus of the article. Here's what surprised me,

The Obama campaign, which is not accepting public funds, has raised more than $468 million. About half has come from small donors, a point of pride for the Obama campaign.

I'm speechless. All of this money that's getting piddled away on an election...this economy is certainly humming along for some people.

 

[Farang]

It's not like that money gets put into a big pile and gets burnt.

 

[Moonbeam]

Saving our country is worth financial support when you're a patriot.

 

[jpeyton]

Look at it this way. $500 million to get the right guy in the White House for the next 8 years is chump change.

Bush has sunk us $4 trillion deeper in debt since he took office. Iraq alone has cost us $500 billion.

 

[PottedMeat]

Goddamn thats quite a bit more than 2004

http://www.usatoday.com/news/p...2-election-costs_x.htm

1.8 Billion x 1/3 ( Presidential Races ) x 1/2 ( Assume Bush == Kerry spending ) = 300 Million per presidential candidate in 2004.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

It's incredible when you think about it.

Obama will be beholden to one and only one lobbyist if he gets elected. The lobbyist with the biggest pull in America. The American people.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
It's incredible when you think about it.

Obama will be beholden to one and only one lobbyist if he gets elected. The lobbyist with the biggest pull in America. The American people.

so he's just giving back everything that didn't come from small donations?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
It's incredible when you think about it.

Obama will be beholden to one and only one lobbyist if he gets elected. The lobbyist with the biggest pull in America. The American people.

Dream on dude.

I think the appropriate quote is:
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Obama has some how convinced people that he is above politics and lobbyists and that he is some new breed of politician. Reality shows that he is just another politician.

BTW Obama raised $9 million in one night in Hollywood. 250-300 People paid $28,500 each!!! Who do you think has a bigger voice in his decisions, the people who are sending him $50-100 each of the people who paid $28,500??

Think of it this way. In August he raised $66 million, or $2 mil a day. That one $9 million night is the equivalent of 4+ days of fund raising.

Or in other terms. Each of those big donors gave as much as 285 people giving $100 each. So 300 big donors were equal to 85,500 people giving $100 each.

 

[Dari]

We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

The Obama campaign, which is not accepting public funds, has raised more than $468 million. About half has come from small donors, a point of pride for the Obama campaign.

I'm speechless. All of this money that's getting piddled away on an election...this economy is certainly humming along for some people.

It's a sign that people are concerned that if the Republicans win, the economy will not "hum along" or at least not for anyone but the upper classes.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: Dari
We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

Lol yep he will be able to give shitty medicare level UHC and lower taxes. That sounds real possible sound like to me we get shitty health care and doubling taxes. He will just tripple the medicare tax and he get around his promise of lower income taxes.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Dari
We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

Lol yep he will be able to give shitty medicare level UHC and lower taxes. That sounds real possible sound like to me we get shitty health care and doubling taxes. He will just tripple the medicare tax and he get around his promise of lower income taxes.

Does anyone else ever notice that people opposed to UHC always mention the tax increase, but never mention the savings from no more health care premiums, no more $1200 emergency room visits for a few stitches, etc?

You don't have to support UHC, but you should be honest when discussing it. The question isn't if we will be paying more or less straight tax, but if we will be paying more or less money as a whole.

 

[Thump553]

Proud to have done my part.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Dari
We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

Lol yep he will be able to give shitty medicare level UHC and lower taxes. That sounds real possible sound like to me we get shitty health care and doubling taxes. He will just tripple the medicare tax and he get around his promise of lower income taxes.

LOL, lets elect McBush 2.0 and get four more years of the last eight.

NOT.

Apparently McCain hasn't updated his list of talking points to his operatives yet. You're not going to win by arguing about UHC and lying about higher taxes.

But at this point, there isn't much you can do to win period.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
It's incredible when you think about it.

Obama will be beholden to one and only one lobbyist if he gets elected. The lobbyist with the biggest pull in America. The American people.

Dream on dude.

I think the appropriate quote is:
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Obama has some how convinced people that he is above politics and lobbyists and that he is some new breed of politician. Reality shows that he is just another politician.

BTW Obama raised $9 million in one night in Hollywood. 250-300 People paid $28,500 each!!! Who do you think has a bigger voice in his decisions, the people who are sending him $50-100 each of the people who paid $28,500??

Think of it this way. In August he raised $66 million, or $2 mil a day. That one $9 million night is the equivalent of 4+ days of fund raising.

Or in other terms. Each of those big donors gave as much as 285 people giving $100 each. So 300 big donors were equal to 85,500 people giving $100 each.

So what you're saying is that one of the biggest fundraisers during his campaign still only made up 13.6% of that month's fundraising, dwarfed by small contributions from ordinary Americans. Unbelievable.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Dari
We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

Lol yep he will be able to give shitty medicare level UHC and lower taxes. That sounds real possible sound like to me we get shitty health care and doubling taxes. He will just tripple the medicare tax and he get around his promise of lower income taxes.

Does anyone else ever notice that people opposed to UHC always mention the tax increase, but never mention the savings from no more health care premiums, no more $1200 emergency room visits for a few stitches, etc?

You don't have to support UHC, but you should be honest when discussing it. The question isn't if we will be paying more or less straight tax, but if we will be paying more or less money as a whole.

Add the return of some jobs that left because of health insurance and we may be on a roll. I remember a couple of years ago the auto manufacturers saying how the cost of healthcare forced them to leave the US for Canada (which has UHC).

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Goddamn thats quite a bit more than 2004

http://www.usatoday.com/news/p...2-election-costs_x.htm

1.8 Billion x 1/3 ( Presidential Races ) x 1/2 ( Assume Bush == Kerry spending ) = 300 Million per presidential candidate in 2004.

Not quite a fair comparison. Bush didn't have to compete in a primary.

 

[Dulanic]

That money doesn't get burned or something. It goes right back into the economy. Paid employees, paid advertising etc...

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Dari
Add the return of some jobs that left because of health insurance and we may be on a roll. I remember a couple of years ago the auto manufacturers saying how the cost of healthcare forced them to leave the US for Canada (which has UHC).

And subtract the jobs lost in the insurance industry. Of course, the only person who has the ridiculous gold plated healthcare plans that the auto unions had is Dick Cheney.

We'd all have to head to Canada.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Dari
We elect him. He gives us tax relief and better insurance. Sounds like a good investment to me.

Lol yep he will be able to give shitty medicare level UHC and lower taxes. That sounds real possible sound like to me we get shitty health care and doubling taxes. He will just tripple the medicare tax and he get around his promise of lower income taxes.

Does anyone else ever notice that people opposed to UHC always mention the tax increase, but never mention the savings from no more health care premiums, no more $1200 emergency room visits for a few stitches, etc?

You don't have to support UHC, but you should be honest when discussing it. The question isn't if we will be paying more or less straight tax, but if we will be paying more or less money as a whole.

What savings I will get destroyed by UHC like anyone with decent health insurance. My health care costs will go up 30x or more not to fair. My employer will just pocket what they have been paying for my health insurance. So I will be responsible for 100% of my health coverage. I don't feel like getting screwed twice once with doubling my taxes and second rate medicare level health care.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: quest55720

What savings I will get destroyed by UHC like anyone with decent health insurance. My health care costs will go up 30x or more not to fair. My employer will just pocket what they have been paying for my health insurance. So I will be responsible for 100% of my health coverage. I don't feel like getting screwed twice once with doubling my taxes and second rate medicare level health care.

What's strange is that I did a quick search on your previous posts and I see some where you claim that cutting taxes on businesses will be a positive for us, because they will hire new people, whatever. Now you're claiming that your business will simply pocket the savings. Why do they do so with health care, but not with other taxes?

Smelling any cognitive dissonance?

The money they save could just as easily be added to your salary (similarly to how you claim would happen with tax cuts), so there you go!

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

What gets underneath Republican skin the most is this notion that Obama ISN'T a typical politician.

They've spent this entire campaign trying to prove he is a regular old Chicago style politician and it hasn't worked. Obama has consistently managed to rise above the fray each and every time. Republicans underestimated Obama big time and it is ultimately what cost him this election.

The bottom line is the bulk of Obama's campaign is fueled by small donors like myself. When he gets elected, he will be beholden most to people like me and that is why I am confident he is the best candidate to lead this country out of the mess we are in.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
It's incredible when you think about it.

Obama will be beholden to one and only one lobbyist if he gets elected. The lobbyist with the biggest pull in America. The American people.

Dream on dude.

I think the appropriate quote is:
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Obama has some how convinced people that he is above politics and lobbyists and that he is some new breed of politician. Reality shows that he is just another politician.

BTW Obama raised $9 million in one night in Hollywood. 250-300 People paid $28,500 each!!! Who do you think has a bigger voice in his decisions, the people who are sending him $50-100 each of the people who paid $28,500??

Think of it this way. In August he raised $66 million, or $2 mil a day. That one $9 million night is the equivalent of 4+ days of fund raising.

Or in other terms. Each of those big donors gave as much as 285 people giving $100 each. So 300 big donors were equal to 85,500 people giving $100 each.

So what you're saying is that one of the biggest fundraisers during his campaign still only made up 13.6% of that month's fundraising, dwarfed by small contributions from ordinary Americans. Unbelievable.

PJ is desperately stabbing in the dark to find anything to discredit Obama.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: quest55720

What savings I will get destroyed by UHC like anyone with decent health insurance. My health care costs will go up 30x or more not to fair. My employer will just pocket what they have been paying for my health insurance. So I will be responsible for 100% of my health coverage. I don't feel like getting screwed twice once with doubling my taxes and second rate medicare level health care.

What's strange is that I did a quick search on your previous posts and I see some where you claim that cutting taxes on businesses will be a positive for us, because they will hire new people, whatever. Now you're claiming that your business will simply pocket the savings. Why do they do so with health care, but not with other taxes?

Smelling any cognitive dissonance?

The money they save could just as easily be added to your salary (similarly to how you claim would happen with tax cuts), so there you go!

Nice deflection I am sure getting rid of health care would create jobs. The problem is it would either bankrupt the country or those who will end up paying for it. UHC would most likely bankrupt me I can't afford 500 dollars a month more in taxes. And that is the low end of how much it would cost.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Proud to have done my part.

As am I. :thumbsup: While it wasn't much it was the first time I've donated to a candidate. It's also the first time I put a candidates sticker on my car window.