Obama had Trumps phone tapped?

[fskimospy]

IDK if Obama, or really his admin, had Trump tapped (or accessed the data the NSA has). However, pretending that our Intel community is above question is stupid. How many examples does one need?

Click here and watch the video (scroll down a wee bit). Hear about it from Dennis Kucinich himself:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...s-congress-cia-wiretaps-are-real-and-it-happe

Fern

Zerohedge? Really?

 

[alien42]

And like Flynn, the convo was leaked. Like with Flynn, that's a felony.

Fern

sorry, but that BS doesn't fly...

"A whistleblower (also known as a whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person who exposes any kind of information or activity that is deemed illegal, unethical, or not correct within an organization that is either private or public."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower

Flynn is a traitor to this country and should be in prison.

 

[Artorias]

You guys ready to do this shit for another 4 years? Rinse & repeat. Have fun.

Hopefully by the time this shit ends all you guys down there nuke both parties and get a new political system.

 

[ivwshane]

You guys ready to do this shit for another 4 years? Rinse & repeat. Have fun.

Hopefully by the time this shit ends all you guys down there nuke both parties and get a new political system.

Both sides(tm)

 

[Younigue]

Both parties need to sort their shite out.

 

[jman19]

And like Flynn, the convo was leaked. Like with Flynn, that's a felony.

Fern

Devolved in to a full on hack. Sad!

 

[IronWing]

The Onion calls it again!

 

[DaveSimmons]

The Onion calls it again!

LOL! Laughing harder than that deserves but . . . "it's funny because it's true!"

 

[mxnerd]

 

[Sunburn74]

Both parties need to sort their shite out.

I think one side is clearly worse than the other (just look at the presidential candidates. Hillary's big criticism was "can we trust her? She's knee deep in politics and is fairly cunning". Trump's big criticism was "he's insane, incompentent, sexist, generally ignorant and a racist. Literally."

You rarely hear about democratic politicians say, do, craft policies, or get caught with stuff that makes you say "WTF?". I feel like that is a common occurrence with team red. How many team red guys have been caught doing blow with prostitutes in hotel rooms? Not saying Team blue is perfect but you don't see or regularly hear a lot of batshite crazy stuff coming out of their lineup.

When was the last time you saw mass protests regarding some team blue state or federal policy? It just doesn't happen because its clear that when they are in power, they try and appease everyone whilst team red seems to really just try and appeal to its base.

Just my two cents.

 

[Younigue]

I think one side is clearly worse than the other (just look at the presidential candidates. Hillary's big criticism was "can we trust her? She's knee deep in politics and is fairly cunning". Trump's big criticism was "he's insane, incompentent, sexist, generally ignorant and a racist. Literally."

You rarely hear about democratic politicians say, do, craft policies, or get caught with stuff that makes you say "WTF?". I feel like that is a common occurrence with team red. How many team red guys have been caught doing blow with prostitutes in hotel rooms? Not saying Team blue is perfect but you don't see or regularly hear a lot of batshite crazy stuff coming out of their lineup.

When was the last time you saw mass protests regarding some team blue state or federal policy? It just doesn't happen because its clear that when they are in power, they try and appease everyone whilst team red seems to really just try and appeal to its base.

Just my two cents.

Oh I agree. I've been working on my feelings about the Red for a while, trying to land on being a good person about it. They should probably stop using the family values call out. I have the feeling they'd have many of the same voters even if they said to hell with family values, I'm a dog or a degenerate. <--- probably too all inclusive with that sentiment but I'm in a mood so I'll let it stand.

The Dems just don't seem to be able to get out of their own way. They have work to do. Kind of agree with Bill Maher in that when it comes to politicking the parties are almost indistinguishable from one another these days. That's part of what's upsetting so many Americans. There's no one to trust.

 

[Sunburn74]

Oh I agree. I've been working on my feelings about the Red for a while, trying to land on being a good person about it. They should probably stop using the family values call out. I have the feeling they'd have many of the same voters even if they said to hell with family values, I'm a dog or a degenerate. <--- probably too all inclusive with that sentiment but I'm in a mood so I'll let it stand.

The Dems just don't seem to be able to get out of their own way. They have work to do. Kind of agree with Bill Maher in that when it comes to politicking the parties are almost indistinguishable from one another these days. That's part of what's upsetting so many Americans. There's no one to trust.

I think both parties are very distinguishable. I think you're right though that the dems don't seem to be able to get out of their own way. Their overall marketing strategy is piss poor, though overall as a party they seem to want and do what most people want (anecdotally and according to public opinion polls). Dems seem to overly and aggressively advertise things that most people don't care about, though are things that definitely america should participate in.

 

[Younigue]

I think both parties are very distinguishable. I think you're right though that the dems don't seem to be able to get out of their own way. Their overall marketing strategy is piss poor, though overall as a party they seem to want and do what most people want (anecdotally and according to public opinion polls). Dems seem to overly and aggressively advertise things that most people don't care about, though are things that definitely america should participate in.

Indeed they do and clearly the people are nearly begging for some serous ball busting that will work in their favor even if they don't understand how that can come about. They want to trust their politicians. They want to know their politicians are smarter than they are, enough so to actually do what is in their best interest. Even though Trump has significant support I truly believe that the majority of them are thumbing their noses at Government in general. *Sigh*

The Dems have an excellent opportunity here to get in touch with the people and adjust accordingly. I'm confident The Republicans will do no such thing. They should be putting a face out there sooner than later even though that's not how they usually do things. I think they've been properly schooled that even those who voted for Hillary, many of them were doing so begrudgingly, status quo isn't cutting it.

 

[agent00f]

IDK if Obama, or really his admin, had Trump tapped (or accessed the data the NSA has). However, pretending that our Intel community is above question is stupid. How many examples does one need?

Click here and watch the video (scroll down a wee bit). Hear about it from Dennis Kucinich himself:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...s-congress-cia-wiretaps-are-real-and-it-happe

Fern

Let's be optimistic that one day conservatives will eventually figure out that surveying communications with foreigners is legal per FISA. Will probably happen when Trump & co use it to round up browns or whatever.

 

[cytg111]

And like Flynn, the convo was leaked. Like with Flynn, that's a felony.

Fern

IF it was "leaked" from a US citizen.
To parafrase "Are you listening russia (listening, get it, i have the best jokes), if you could those missing phone calls that would be great!".

 

[agent00f]

IF it was "leaked" from a US citizen.
To parafrase "Are you listening russia (listening, get it, i have the best jokes), if you could those missing phone calls that would be great!".

Seems pretty heroic of any american to prevent a russian puppet from being national security adviser.

 

[cytg111]

Seems pretty heroic of any american to prevent a russian puppet from being national security adviser.

Thats debatable I think, cause if you've crossed that mental barrier, that I need to invoke my inner patriot, then where is the line in the sand really?
That being said, this is a text-book example of how a certian someone incites riot and unrest and from the looks of it you are playing into it. The leaks *must* be found cause to my mind there is a good chance that its not "corrupt IC staff"

 

[JSt0rm]

sorry, but that BS doesn't fly...

"A whistleblower (also known as a whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person who exposes any kind of information or activity that is deemed illegal, unethical, or not correct within an organization that is either private or public."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower

Flynn is a traitor to this country and should be in prison.

Funny how they wrap themselves in the american flag and yet they wont do the hard part and realize the people they want in power have been corrupted by our foreign enemies.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The Onion calls it again!

Lol....

 

[brycejones]

The GOP in congress and in this very forum are on a quest to shoot the messenger.

 

[Jhhnn]

Thats debatable I think, cause if you've crossed that mental barrier, that I need to invoke my inner patriot, then where is the line in the sand really?
That being said, this is a text-book example of how a certian someone incites riot and unrest and from the looks of it you are playing into it. The leaks *must* be found cause to my mind there is a good chance that its not "corrupt IC staff"

Please. Trump had the information weeks before it was leaked & did nothing. Only public disclosure ousted Flynn. That's a very sad state of affairs & good reason for somebody to blow the whistle.

 

[Fern]

Zerohedge? Really?

Oh gawd. Not this stupid shiz again.

It's a damn video of the guy speaking. Doesn't matter who hosts it. If you don't want to give that sites clicks google for another host.

Fern

 

[Fern]

Let's be optimistic that one day conservatives will eventually figure out that surveying communications with foreigners is legal per FISA. Will probably happen when Trump & co use it to round up browns or whatever.

Let's be optimistic that one day liberals will understanding that leaking recorded phone calls involving US citizens is illegal.

Fern

 

[Fern]

IF it was "leaked" from a US citizen.
To parafrase "Are you listening russia (listening, get it, i have the best jokes), if you could those missing phone calls that would be great!".

Are you suggesting Russia leaked it?

Fern

 

[Fern]

Seems pretty heroic of any american to prevent a russian puppet from being national security adviser.

And yet the FBI had vetted him and cleared him.

Fern