Obama had Trumps phone tapped?

[Jhhnn]

Democrats dug up McCarthy back in 2013 when Obama pushed for a direct war against Syria, Republicans opposed war authorization, and Kerry let slip a diplomatic solution that Putin jumped on. The supposed collusion to stop war was most reviled and clearly a result of Putin worship. Your view that this history begins with Trump is ignorant at best.

*found our old Syrian topic, added link

Which has what to do with McCarthy & Trump's bogus phone tapping claim?

You're just stringing together memes as if it really makes sense to do so.

Obama could have sent Tomahawks against Syria w/o Congress.

At least a few Repubs spoke against use of force. It never came to a vote, iirc.

Kerry deftly offered Russia a way to defuse the situation & help their friends in Syria.

It's not like conservatives see Russian help for the Syrian regime against our proxies as a good thing, do they? Probably not.

 

[agent00f]

Democrats dug up McCarthy back in 2013 when Obama pushed for a direct war against Syria, Republicans opposed war authorization, and Kerry let slip a diplomatic solution that Putin jumped on. The supposed collusion to stop war was most reviled and clearly a result of Putin worship. Your view that this history begins with Trump is ignorant at best.

*found our old Syrian topic, added link

It's a simple fact that Obama is centrist, meaning halfway supportive of white-welfare/military solutions, and also a simple fact american conservatives will reflexively oppose anything democratic, even if it's killing brown people. Not terribly hard to figure out and entirely in line with reflexively befriending Putin same as white nationalists if that's what it takes, but I know how hard anything is figure out for you guys.

 

[agent00f]

I offered no defense. Officials of an incoming administration are expected to speak to counterparts such as the Russian ambassador.

Yes, I will wait for the transcripts or other info before reacting. All we have to go on is what Flynn has said. Granted, that may be self serving but otherwise, we've got zip aside from alarmist innuendo. If recent politics doesn't teach one restraint in jumping to conclusion, I don't know what will.

Fern

Just a heads up that less than tardy folks can trivially figure out that if there were some perfectly innocuous explanation Flynn & co would've provided it to save his job instead of continuing to lie til no longer feasible.

 

[Maxima1]

It's a simple fact that Obama is centrist, meaning halfway supportive of white-welfare/military solutions, and also a simple fact american conservatives will reflexively oppose anything democratic, even if it's killing brown people. Not terribly hard to figure out and entirely in line with reflexively befriending Putin same as white nationalists if that's what it takes, but I know how hard anything is figure out for you guys.

What's "white-welfare"?

 

[zinfamous]

Hillary lost the election because she was Hillary.... not because of the Russians.

70k votes was the victory for a man with a 5 million vote deficit.

...yeah, that was because Hillary.

 

[zinfamous]

I agree, leaking a recorded phone call involving a US citizen is illegal. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. Hacking the DNC was also illegal and I've very glad it happened. Draining the swamp involves lifting rocks and shining the light on the scurrying cockroaches, to badly mix a metaphor, and whether or not lifting that particular rock is legal it's certainly a good thing for the nation. I like Flynn and frankly could not care less if he talked to the Russians about sanctions, but he lied to the FBI; ergo he must be kicked out. Can't have people in power who are above the law, and if it takes a felony to produce the necessary political will to do that, so be it. I can only hope the felon remains uncaught since he's done us a service here.

It's amusing that the Pubbies are now doing the exact same thing the Dems did - trying to make the leak the story instead of what the leak revealed. Didn't work then and it certainly isn't going to work now. People are smarter than that.

the leaks of the DNC didn't reveal anything, though. Trump leaks = potential Russian collusion and treason.

I wouldn't call this apples to apples--DNC leaks vs Trump leaks. More like Plums to Plouts.

 

[agent00f]

What's "white-welfare"?

Half the US budget spent on "defense" going to predominantly white areas. Eg. weapons programs spread over 50 (incl rural/flyover) states.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-unmasking-claims/index.html

Aaaaaand Nunes is full of crap. Reps from both parties saying there is nothing to those classified docs he had to go running to the White House to tell them about. Remember, the ones the White House gave him the day before?

Oh. And Susan Rice? Yeah nothing there either.

After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN.

Their private assessment contradicts President Donald Trump's allegations that former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice broke the law by requesting the "unmasking" of US individuals' identities. Trump had claimed the matter was a "massive story."

 

[woolfe9998]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/nikki-haley-syria-interview/index.html

Aaaaaand Nunes is full of crap. Reps from both parties saying there is nothing to those classified docs he had to go running to the White House to tell them about. Remember, the ones the White House gave him the day before?

Oh. And Susan Rice? Yeah nothing there either.

Wrong link. I think this is what you are referring to:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-unmasking-claims/index.html

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Wrong link. I think this is what you are referring to:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-unmasking-claims/index.html

Oops. Edited thanks.

 

[Jhhnn]

Anybody else remember what else was happening when Trump concocted this wiretapping story? Jeff Sessions was shown to have outright lied during his confirmation hearing & he's still AG. Donald's dissembling drew the heat away from him, as intended.