Obama going for illegal alien amnesty

[JohnOfSheffield]

Kid, impressing you would give me nightmares.

Son, of course it would, you've never done anything in your life and you brag about that.

I find your sorts of people disgusting and pathetic but most of all underserving.

You're the ones that still think that pulling us out of the fight of terrorism that we had almost covered completely and won and go into Iraq was a great idea because of ideology, not because of what has followed, not because of the results that can never be had now but because you are so stupid that you think ideology is worth more than reality.

Without your kind this would have been a done deal but they knew they could win you because of the continuous portrayal of threat and you.... you're so daft you haven't even understood that YET.

Impressing me WOULD give you a place amongst the best in the world and that sure as FUCK is a nightmare.

Remember that it was the SAS TFB that went first into both Afghanistan and Iraq, Brits had been there for weeks when the US troops dared to enter on both scenes. Don't ever forget that twat.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Again your term Englanders is WRONG. The native people of England are the Britons. Odds are if you're English and have any Briton blood it's so diluted with Anglo-Saxon blood it's damn near not there. Welsh are Britons, they are native.

I don't even understand your middle paragraph, but if you include Turkey there are over 100 million Muslims in Europe. They didn't all migrate to Europe though so again you're wrong. If you're talking Muslims in Europe NOT including Turkey, which would leave mostly the migrates, it's not even close to 100 million Muslims.

http://translate.google.com/transla...pa+telt+ruim+53+mln.+moslims.html&sl=nl&tl=en

Well, to be honest, i'm Jewish by heritage, but Englanders usually refers to the Germans who set up this nation way before there were any thoughts of welshmen.

I am talking immigrants alone, not Turkey and if i had mentioned the EU i would have said the EU not Europe.

It's not even bloody close, i agree, out of the 800M living in Europe, about 140 are immigrants at this time, out of them, about 110 millions are Muslims from Africa.

Not that that changes anything what so ever to my point if i WAS wrong, one city of less than 20k citisens in Europe took in more Iraqis than the north americas did (includes both the US and Canada).

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Republicans do not want to grant amnesty to immigrants because that would mean they would have to actually provide benefits and rights to their illegal workers.

Its funny that the party that is so vehemently opposed to immigration happens to be the party that exploits these immigrants to the fullest.

 

[bfdd]

Well, to be honest, i'm Jewish by heritage, but Englanders usually refers to the Germans who set up this nation way before there were any thoughts of welshmen.

I am talking immigrants alone, not Turkey and if i had mentioned the EU i would have said the EU not Europe.

It's not even bloody close, i agree, out of the 800M living in Europe, about 140 are immigrants at this time, out of them, about 110 millions are Muslims from Africa.

Not that that changes anything what so ever to my point if i WAS wrong, one city of less than 20k citisens in Europe took in more Iraqis than the north americas did (includes both the US and Canada).

Read the link I posted. It's from 2007, so it's damn near 3 years old, but it says 53.7 million Muslims live in Europe, less than 20 million live in the EU. You're telling me that that number more than doubled in the last 3 years? I find that extremely hard to believe. I can't find any source that claims over 100m Muslims live in Europe without including Turkey.

 

[werepossum]

Son, of course it would, you've never done anything in your life and you brag about that.

I find your sorts of people disgusting and pathetic but most of all underserving.

You're the ones that still think that pulling us out of the fight of terrorism that we had almost covered completely and won and go into Iraq was a great idea because of ideology, not because of what has followed, not because of the results that can never be had now but because you are so stupid that you think ideology is worth more than reality.

Without your kind this would have been a done deal but they knew they could win you because of the continuous portrayal of threat and you.... you're so daft you haven't even understood that YET.

Impressing me WOULD give you a place amongst the best in the world and that sure as FUCK is a nightmare.

Remember that it was the SAS TFB that went first into both Afghanistan and Iraq, Brits had been there for weeks when the US troops dared to enter on both scenes. Don't ever forget that twat.

Just for curiosity's sake, is there anyone here that believes JohnOFSheffield is now or has ever been a member of the Special Air Service?

Employed?

Out of high school?

 

[Dr. Detroit]

I might support amnesty for some but only after we get tough on future immigration and adopt the same immigration laws that the majority of European nations have:

1) No more anchor babies
2) No more if you get citizenship you get bring over your entire extended family
3) Anyone with a criminal past, deportation
4) Anyone who was deported once and returned, deported
5) Cross our border illegally, jail time and deportation

I would also like to say that many of the service jobs are now being done by illegals rather than the poor who choose to slang crack and survive on welfare. Those estimated 10M people heading back to their home countries would get a lot of unemployed US Citizens back to work and would require companies to provide a living wage.

At 17 I had a job as a dishwasher in a restaraunt, In todays environment you think a restaraunt would hire a 17yr old white kid to do the job when they can get Pablo to work under the table?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Just for curiosity's sake, is there anyone here that believes JohnOFSheffield is now or has ever been a member of the Special Air Service?

Employed?

Out of high school?

You're so fucking weak, son.

Can't answer my post? Won't acknowledge that i'm completely correct? Nah, not you, you dishonsest piece of sheit, not you.

You'd rather take a shit on the first going in than admit you are fucking wrong.

That is so fucking pathetic.

Ask the mods, they have every last one of my credentials, ask Common Courtesy or Harvey.

Of course, that won't mean sheit to you, nor will the fact that i have numerous times reported on things that later occured here in this forum, nor would anything what so ever because you're a stupid wise and beautiful woman who doesn't want to be wrong and this is the best you can come up with.

 

[werepossum]

You're so fucking weak, son.

Can't answer my post? Won't acknowledge that i'm completely correct? Nah, not you, you dishonsest piece of sheit, not you.

You'd rather take a shit on the first going in than admit you are fucking wrong.

That is so fucking pathetic.

Ask the mods, they have every last one of my credentials, ask Common Courtesy or Harvey.

Of course, that won't mean sheit to you, nor will the fact that i have numerous times reported on things that later occured here in this forum, nor would anything what so ever because you're a stupid wise and beautiful woman who doesn't want to be wrong and this is the best you can come up with.

Hmm, the only thing I've seen you "report" on was some mysterious happening that would hit the news on Tuesday, but never QUITE seemed to arrive. Perhaps I missed your heyday? At any rate you have been bizarrely wrong just in this thread.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Hmm, the only thing I've seen you "report" on was some mysterious happening that would hit the news on Tuesday, but never QUITE seemed to arrive. Perhaps I missed your heyday? At any rate you have been bizarrely wrong just in this thread.

It went on for quite a while so yeah, perhaps you missed it, but it was never wrong and that tuesday was never reported on that day but the date was the same when it was reported, you're free to look that up if you want to.

All in all, i can't google or use any of the search engines so i'm sheit out of luck to help you on it.

I think there are those who could affirm it right on this very forum though.

I'm not wrong, i suppose if you wish to twist statistics as much as you possibly can and only count LEGAL immigrants then yeah.

EU's statistics is fucked up because of the three stages of affirmation of anyone entering the EU and then there are country laws but all in all, i'm correct.

But just for fun, look up the fact about a small town in the EU inviting more immigrants from Iraq and Afghanistan than all of the north americas, it shouldn't be too hard to find.

Regarding my person, it's up to you to believe me, i was questioned and provided answers but now your dumb arse comes along and i'm getting sick of it, it's nothing personal, i've just done it one too many times to consider it worthwhile anymore, ok?

 

[bfdd]

Why are people attacking who John says he is? Why should that even matter? I pretty much take everyone online as who they say they are since I have no way of disproving it.

Anyways, John if you get a chance can you try to find something to back up your numbers? I'm not saying that the immigration of Muslims into Europe or the EU isn't high, I just have a hard time believing it's anywhere close to 100 million.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I was kidding, of course. But one fact remains true and that seems to remain true in any nation, the newest legal immigrants are those most opposed to further illegal immigration.

I find it fucking pathetic, but that is just me and what do i know?

Fixed it for you.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Fixed it for you.

As someone to soon own a 996 it hurts me to tell you that that fix doesn't help at all, in fact, it's stupid and i seriously doubt the Indians saw the Europeans as legal on their land.

Of course, if you make sheit up and believe in John Wayne then that makes everything ok, right? Even a fucking genocide.

Which tickes me, the US acknowledges a genocide of Armenians (i completely agree with that stance) but when is the US going to admit that their entire nation was built upon a genocide?

For credabilities sake, it matters.

 

[Fern]

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you should be proud of your small amount of immigrants that wants to immigrate to your nation, we could send over the hundreds of millions of Muslims that have immigrated to EU nations because of your stupidity instead if you want to.

This is such a recurring theme in your posting.

On the one hand, you seem to point to Europe's large amount of Muslims as though it is some kind of good thing you are proud.

OTOH, you seem to blame your large number of Muslim immigrants on our "stupidity".

They didn't migrate there because of our stupidity, we here in the US don't issue European visa's. Europeans allowed them to immigrate and cannot justly blame it upon others.

Similarly to you, I could go on about how many more Mexican/SA immigrants we have than Europe and crow about our (moral) superiority.Muslims have long had a foothold in Europe, but not from altruistic purposes. E.g., Germany imported a good many for manual labor and France due o it colonialism.

But most importantly you might stop to think that if we could get better control of the tens of millions of illegals from Mexico/SA we might be better able to process more of those from other (non-contiguous) countries.

Fern

 

[DucatiMonster696]

As someone to soon own a 996 it hurts me to tell you that that fix doesn't help at all, in fact, it's stupid and i seriously doubt the Indians saw the Europeans as legal on their land.

Which has nothing to do with the current situation in the US and the over flow of illegal aliens from Mexico who depress wages for working class Americans, over burden our hospitals, schools and social programs which are meant for US citizens.

Ever try being a illegal alien in Mexico? Go ask someone from Central America how wonderful it is to be an illegal in Mexico. All the bullshit illegal Mexicans demand in the US would have a Central American, laughed at, beaten and/or jailed for in Mexico.

Yet the US is supposed to take in and take care of all the poor riff raff that Mexico shits out.

Of course, if you make sheit up and believe in John Wayne then that makes everything ok, right? Even a fucking genocide.

More nonsense dribble.

Which tickes me, the US acknowledges a genocide of Armenians (i completely agree with that stance) but when is the US going to admit that their entire nation was built upon a genocide?

For credabilities sake, it matters.

Geez you love going off topic.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Which has nothing to do with the current situation in the US and the over flow of illegal aliens from Mexico who depress wages for working class Americans, over burden our hospitals, schools and social programs which are meant for US citizens.

Ever try being a illegal alien in Mexico? Go ask someone from Central America how wonderful it is to be an illegal in Mexico. All the bullshit illegal Mexicans demand in the US would have a Central American, laughed at, beaten and/or jailed for in Mexico.

Yet the US is supposed to take in and take care of all the poor riff raff that Mexico shits out.



More nonsense dribble.




Geez you love going off topic.

All i'm going to guess is that you never worked a day in your entire life and regardless of what you say i already know it's true.

I would have no problem exchanging the Muslims that were brought into the EU because of US's wars for your Mexicans, hell i'd give you a deal 3:1 because our immigrants won't work at all regardless of our efforts.

Would you take it?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

All i'm going to guess is that you never worked a day in your entire life and regardless of what you say i already know it's true.

Well if that is the game you want to play.

I am going to guess you are a jackass that assumes to much and has no idea of what you are talking about period.

I would have no problem exchanging the Muslims that were brought into the EU because of US's wars for your Mexicans, hell i'd give you a deal 3:1 because our immigrants won't work at all regardless of our efforts.

Would you take it?

No you can keep both.

I'll let all the homies from the LA EME, MS13, SUR13, 18th Street, Norte, etc know that England is spread wide open though and willing to take them all.

I would have absolutely no fucking problem sending every illegal alien in this country over to England on a one way trip. Enjoy! It's not the obligation of our country to take care of Mexico's entire population of poor people. They need to stop dumping their poor onto our door step.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Well if that is the game you want to play.

I am going to guess you are a jackass that assumes to much and has no idea of what you are talking about period.





No you can keep both.

I'll let all the homies from the LA EME, MS13, SUR13, 18th Street, Norte, etc know that England is spread wide open though and willing to take them all.

I would have absolutely no fucking problem sending every illegal alien in this country over to England on a one way trip. Enjoy!

EU restrictions don't allow that, PERIOD.

I'm not here to argue bullsheit that you think up in your mind, i know the exact facts of these matters, not because it belongs to my duty but because it has entered the realm of my duty.

What if you can't export them like you did with the Jews? Then what? Genocide?

Your pathetic little teenage mind hasn't thought this through, has it?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

EU restrictions don't allow that, PERIOD.

I'm not here to argue bullsheit that you think up in your mind, i know the exact facts of these matters, not because it belongs to my duty but because it has entered the realm of my duty.

What if you can't export them like you did with the Jews? Then what? Genocide?

Your pathetic little teenage mind hasn't thought this through, has it?

LoL you are hilarious man seriously a comedy riot act.

You talk about the issue of illegal immigration in the US but you have no real world grasp on the issue period. Hell you don't even live in the US let alone a state effected by the issue itself, yet you still feel the need to be all preachy and self-righteous.

Hello I live in California, I know first hand why illegal immigration is wrong and how it hurts the US and my fellow Americans. I've seen the end result of what illegal immigration can and has lead too. Please don't preach to me if you live on the other side of the world and have no fucking clue except from 3rd hand bias sources.

 

[werepossum]

It went on for quite a while so yeah, perhaps you missed it, but it was never wrong and that tuesday was never reported on that day but the date was the same when it was reported, you're free to look that up if you want to.

All in all, i can't google or use any of the search engines so i'm sheit out of luck to help you on it.

I think there are those who could affirm it right on this very forum though.

I'm not wrong, i suppose if you wish to twist statistics as much as you possibly can and only count LEGAL immigrants then yeah.

EU's statistics is fucked up because of the three stages of affirmation of anyone entering the EU and then there are country laws but all in all, i'm correct.

But just for fun, look up the fact about a small town in the EU inviting more immigrants from Iraq and Afghanistan than all of the north americas, it shouldn't be too hard to find.

Regarding my person, it's up to you to believe me, i was questioned and provided answers but now your dumb arse comes along and i'm getting sick of it, it's nothing personal, i've just done it one too many times to consider it worthwhile anymore, ok?

No problem. It's just my natural suspicion of anyone claiming to be in an elite military unit, I suppose. Half the Marines I've ever met have been recon, don't think I've ever met a quartermaster or a RATELO. I don't doubt your story about the little town taking in more Iraqis than North American - we tend not to take in too many people from those countries with which we are at war, after all - the points I was referencing were Europe's 100 million Muslim immigrants and your refusal to admit bfdd's perfectly valid point about prehistoric and early historic immigration. The largest number I've ever seen is twenty million Muslims in the EU - you could come close to a hundred million if you count Turkey, but then Turkey mass converted rather than immigrated.

As to answering your post, you called me a pathetic racist twat - I'm supposed to answer that? And no, I wouldn't trade Mexicans for Muslims, as Mexicans usually work hard and almost never explode.

And we didn't export the Jews; the USA, as one of the few safe havens for Jews, has almost as many Jews as does Israel. Many of the GIs that fought the Nazis were Jewish.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

LoL you are hilarious man seriously a comedy riot act.

You talk about the issue of illegal immigration in the US but you have no real world grasp on the issue period. Hell you don't even live in the US let alone a state effected by the issue itself, yet you still feel the need to be all preachy and self-righteous.

Hello I live in California, I know first hand why illegal immigration is wrong and how it hurts the US and my fellow Americans. I've seen the end result of what illegal immigration can and has lead too. Please don't preach to me if you live on the other side of the world and have no fucking clue except from 3rd hand bias sources.

I have no real world grasp because i am a Captain who traveled the world and doesn't live in the US? Can you even think? Seems bloody unlikely.

I actually am pretty much on the other side of the world though, so you get one right, i'm in Fallujah, i'm the Captain of Task Force Black of the Special Air Service, the first who ever went into any fighting zone the US started.

Gee, i can't wait for you to tell me what it was like there.

Twat.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

No problem. It's just my natural suspicion of anyone claiming to be in an elite military unit, I suppose. Half the Marines I've ever met have been recon, don't think I've ever met a quartermaster or a RATELO. I don't doubt your story about the little town taking in more Iraqis than North American - we tend not to take in too many people from those countries with which we are at war, after all - the points I was referencing were Europe's 100 million Muslim immigrants and your refusal to admit bfdd's perfectly valid point about prehistoric and early historic immigration. The largest number I've ever seen is twenty million Muslims in the EU - you could come close to a hundred million if you count Turkey, but then Turkey mass converted rather than immigrated.

As to answering your post, you called me a pathetic racist twat - I'm supposed to answer that? And no, I wouldn't trade Mexicans for Muslims, as Mexicans usually work hard and almost never explode.

And we didn't export the Jews; the USA, as one of the few safe havens for Jews, has almost as many Jews as does Israel. Many of the GIs that fought the Nazis were Jewish.

A few things.

1. I'm a Captain of the TFB SAS, there is a reason we were the first to go in in both Iraq and Afghanistan (and that IS published knowledge), don't compare me to marines, it would be like comparing Seals to autism inflicted children.

2. I came on a bit strong, then again, i don't believe in special treatment.

3. Yeah, you did, my parents would have been americans if you didn't. Jews died by the hundreds on ships that the US turned away. Look it up. It's on google, last i remember searching there were videos of it.

 

[brencat]

Heres how we can solve the illegal problem. Declare amnestry. When they come to get their papers, send them back to Mexico. Then build a 50 foot steel wall sealing us from mexico.

This. And put Terminators to guard the wall...

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I have no real world grasp because i am a Captain who traveled the world and doesn't live in the US? Can you even think? Seems bloody unlikely.

I actually am pretty much on the other side of the world though, so you get one right, i'm in Fallujah, i'm the Captain of Task Force Black of the Special Air Service, the first who ever went into any fighting zone the US started.

Gee, i can't wait for you to tell me what it was like there.

Twat.

Yes I can see how all of this makes you an fucking expert on the illegal immigration issue on the US southern border and the impact it has out US citizens lives and tax dollars.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Yes I can see how all of this makes you an fucking expert on the illegal immigration issue on the US southern border and the impact it has out US citizens lives and tax dollars.

You don't?

You really need me to explain to you how someone who has world knowledge and has fought in six theaters know about immigration?

Yeah... retarded piece of sheit, that would help?

Just say that you hate spicks and be done with it you stupid chinese twat.

 

[Ozoned]

Yes I can see how all of this makes you an fucking expert on the illegal immigration issue on the US southern border and the impact it has out US citizens lives and tax dollars.

Damn I hope he explains cause I still haven't made the connection. Heh.