Obama goes from most Pro-israel President to most anti-Israel President

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Lemon law

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The JediY delusion is in the Obama Statement, "Even Obama before he lowered the boom on Israel admitted how important israel was to the United States. So get over it.... "

Now the question is and remains, how is any longer Israel important to the United States?

If Obama thought the Statement bought himself anything from Israel, he is probably sadly mistaken. To some extent JediY confuses Obama with the United States, as any American Potus is here today and gone tomorrow.

But when Israel is no longer a US political asset, and now only a US liability, long term its the only thing that matters.
 

spidey07

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The JediY delusion is in the Obama Statement, "Even Obama before he lowered the boom on Israel admitted how important israel was to the United States. So get over it.... "

Now the question is and remains, how is any longer Israel important to the United States?

If Obama thought the Statement bought himself anything from Israel, he is probably sadly mistaken. To some extent JediY confuses Obama with the United States, as any American Potus is here today and gone tomorrow.

But when Israel is no longer a US political asset, and now only a US liability, long term its the only thing that matters.

Showing your true colors anti-semite.
 

Ape

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It's sad to hear Obama talk and talk about Democracy and Freedom in the middle east and then turns his back on the only stable democracy in the middle east. This guy is one gaff after another.
 

Lemon law

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Showing your true colors anti-semite.
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As you are confused as usual Spidey, I have always said I have nothing against Jews, but cannot as an American support the current policies of the Israeli government.

The fact is and remains, Jews and Arabs also have a long history of being able to live with each other in peace.

That should be the world goal as its absurd that only six million Israelis can pig all of Israel long term. For 4000+ years Israel has been a political football, and in the process has become holy to all three major world religions.

And it becomes all important today, that the only way forward is to peacefully share Israel to the benefit of all. Get em a clue, we need a peace process or its long term disaster.
 

spidey07

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As you are confused as usual Spidey, I have always said I have nothing against Jews, but cannot as an American support the current policies of the Israeli government. (that's because you side with the destruction of the jews)

The fact is and remains, Jews and Arabs also have a long history of being able to live with each other in peace.


That should be the world goal as its absurd that only six million Israelis can pig all of Israel long term. For 4000+ years Israel has been a political football, and in the process has become holy to all three major world religions.

And it becomes all important today, that the only way forward is to peacefully share Israel to the benefit of all. Get em a clue, we need a peace process or its long term disaster.

Appeasement doesn't work. You need to learn the history of evil.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Israel is going to either have to get back to 1967 borders or integrate the Palestinians and seize to be a Jewish state. It's their decision, but they can't have it both ways.
 

spidey07

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Israel is going to either have to get back to 1967 borders or integrate the Palestinians and seize to be a Jewish state. It's their decision, but they can't have it both ways.

Why is the left so racist and anti-semetic? Why are you and the left so loving of those that wish to kill jews? I'll never understand that hatred liberals have for Jews.
 

Lemon law

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Why is the left so racist and anti-semetic? Why are you and the left so loving of those that wish to kill jews? I'll never understand that hatred liberals have for Jews.
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Spidey, giant books are written about how stupid you are. As you try to simplify issues you have no understanding of. Propaganda has never been a substitute for human reasoning.
 

senseamp

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Why is the left so racist and anti-semetic? Why are you and the left so loving of those that wish to kill jews? I'll never understand that hatred liberals have for Jews.

Thinking that just because someone is Jewish they support Israel's actions is a racist stereotype. No different than assuming just because someone is Chinese they are a Communist.
 

spidey07

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Spidey, giant books are written about how stupid you are. As you try to simplify issues you have no understanding of. Propaganda has never been a substitute for human reasoning.

And special words are used for people like you who defend the destruction of Jews.

Racist anti-semitism.
 

spidey07

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Thinking that just because someone is Jewish they support Israel's actions is a racist stereotype. No different than assuming just because someone is Chinese they are a Communist.

My dad is jewish and my brother is full blown hacidic (truth, just don't talk about it much, why would I?). I know full well how real jews view Obama and his actions.

Eitherway it's apparent you're a racist anti-semite.
 

senseamp

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My dad is jewish and my brother is full blown hacidic (truth, just don't talk about it much, why would I?). I know full well how real jews view Obama and his actions.

Eitherway it's apparent you're a racist anti-semite.

No, you know full well how some Jews you know view Obama and his actions.
To paint all Jews by this brush is a racist anti-semitic stereotype.
 

spidey07

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No, you know full well how some Jews you know view Obama and his actions.
To paint all Jews by this brush is a racist anti-semitic stereotype.

On behalf of my jewish blood, I say with great pride.

Fuck Barrack Hussein Obama. He is a disgrace to this country, to Israel and Jews everywhere.
 

Ape

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Thinking that just because someone is Jewish they support Israel's actions is a racist stereotype. No different than assuming just because someone is Chinese they are a Communist.

Do you think Israel has the right to exist?
 

senseamp

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On behalf of my jewish blood, I say with great pride.

Fuck Barrack Hussein Obama. He is a disgrace to this country, to Israel and Jews everywhere.

Do not compare all Jews to your family. That is a disgusting, racist, anti-semitic stereotype.
 

spidey07

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Yes, within its borders. If they feel like their borders include the West Bank, they need to give Palestinians full Israeli citizenship.

Lulz. You sound like Obama. Next you'll be saying give south west U.S. To Mexico.

The mind of a liberal in action right here. This is what they truly believe.
 

senseamp

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Lulz. You sound like Obama. Next you'll be saying give south west U.S. To Mexico.

The mind of a liberal in action right here. This is what they truly believe.

We integrated people who lived in the Southwest. But then it wasn't a problem, since we don't call ourselves a "White State" unlike Israel which calls itself a "Jewish State."
 

irishScott

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We integrated people who lived in the Southwest. But then it wasn't a problem, since we don't call ourselves a "White State" unlike Israel which calls itself a "Jewish State."

So I guess you won't have a problem with the Palestinians wanting an "Arab State" or "Islamic State". :rolleyes:
 

Lemon law

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What a twit you are Spidey, as you call Obama an anti-semite? In terms of the rest of the world, we would have had a Palestinian State years ago, as right now Obama carries all Israeli hopes.

Is it really wise for Bozo Netanyuhu to insult his last ally in the world?

Spidey you are preaching to the wrong choir, the USA is a tiny tiny tiny part of the Israeli problem. And other than the USA, Israeli arrogance and Greed has totally alienated every other nation on Earth.

I suggest you take your show on the road, try to convince the French, the Italians, Turks, and the Egyptians, of the error of their ways. Surely you can convince them Obama is wrong by reciting Israeli propaganda.
 

cliftonite

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My dad is jewish and my brother is full blown hacidic (truth, just don't talk about it much, why would I?). I know full well how real jews view Obama and his actions.

Eitherway it's apparent you're a racist anti-semite.

So what is your solution to the problem?
 

Farang

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Weird play. High risk, little immediate reward for Obama. To me it suggests the administration thinks the regimes still standing from the Arab Spring are weaker than they appear. Being on the right side of a democratic middle east is more important than Israel, the only reason to give such a fuck you to Israel would be if the administration really saw the tide turning.