Obama does it again: Over 100,000 in Denver

[her209]

[Monte Burns] Ex-cellent

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
And the messiah continues his rounds....

I never quite got how folks have managed to turn being popular with the people into a negative when they talk about Obama. He's trying to become the democratically elected leader of this country, SHOULDN'T he be popular? We don't live in Iran, last time I checked.

it's the text book Rove attack -- turn your opponents greatest strength (in this case, Obama's popularity) -- into a weakness

I get WHY they are doing it, but it seems like they're basically trying to carry out the strategy by saying "He's popular...OooOooO" in a scary-narrator type voice and hoping it works. The concept might be pretty Rovian, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired.

it could have done something if the McCain camp kept up with it -- I thought those Paris Hilton ads were effective -- but they dropped it after a single news cycle.

 

[scttgrd]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Just listened to the daily NBC network news, they pegged the Denver numbers at only 50,000. I have no idea what numbers are true, but a 3X difference is rather extreme.

I was at the rally today, and there were closer to 150,000 people than 100,000. Im not sure who is saying 50,000 but they could not have been there and honestly called that number. Now 50,000 in Ft. Collins I can believe, for a town of only 120,000 to to show 50,000 is a real feat.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Awesome. He's going to GOTV more than any candidate before him, not only for the Presidential race, but for the Democratic party as a whole.

The Blue Tide is going to be CRUSHING on November 4th. The GOP will wake up the next morning with a dim realization that the country as a whole overwhelmingly threw out their party from power. Not only will liberals control The White House, Senate and House, but after two terms worth of appointments the Judicial Branch as well.

Thanks GWB, and everyone who voted for him! :thumbsup:

Oh STFU already. You sound like Mussolini.

http://greatspeeches.wordpress...on-france-and-england/

Soldiers, sailors, and aviators! Black shirts of the revolution and of the [Fascist] legions! Men and women of Italy, of the Empire, and of the kingdom of Albania! Pay heed!
An hour appointed by destiny has struck in the heavens of our fatherland. (Very lively cheers).

The declaration of war has already been delivered (cheers, very loud cries of ?War! War!?) to the ambassadors of Great Britain and France. We go to battle against the plutocratic and reactionary
democracies of the west who, at every moment have hindered the advance and have often endangered the very existence of the Italian people.
Recent historical events can be summarized in the following phrases: promises, threats, blackmail, and finally to crown the edifice, the ignoble seige by the fifty-two states of the League of Nations. Our consience is absolutely tranquil. (Applause). With you the entire world is witness that Fascist Italy has done all that is humanly possible to avoit the torment which is throwing Europe into turmoil; but all was in vain. It would have suffieced to revise the treaties to bring them up to date with the changing needs of the life of nations and not consider them untouchable for eternity; it would have sufficed not to have begun the stupid policy of guarantees, which has shown itself particularly lethal for those who accepted them; it would have sufficed not to reject the proposal [for peace] that the Fuhrer made on 6 October of last year after having finished the campaign in Poland.

But now all of that belongs to the past. If now today we have decided to face the risks and the sacrifices of a war, it is because the honor, the interests, the future impose and iron necessity, since a great people is truly such if it considers sacred its own duties and noes not evade the supreme trials which deternin the course of history.

We take up arms to resolve, after having resolved the problem of our land frontier, the problem of our maritime frontiers; we want to break the territorial chains which suffocate us in our own sea; since a people of forty-five million sould is not truly free if it does not have free access to the ocean.

This gigantic struggle is nothing other than a phase in the logical development of our revolution; it is the struggle of peoples that are poor but rich in workers against the exploiters who hold on ferociously to the monopoly off all the riches and all the gold of the earth; it is the struggle of the fertile and young people against the sterile people moving to the sunset; it is the struggle between two centuries and two ideas.
Now that the die are cast and our will has burned ourships at aour backs, I solomnly declare that
Italy does not intend to drag into the conflict other peoples bordering her on land or on sea. Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Egypt take note of these my words and it depends on them
and only on them whether or not they will be rigorously confirmed.

Italians!

In a memorable meeting, that which took place in Berlin, I said that according to the laws of Fascist morality, when one has a friend, one marches with him to the end. (?Duce! Duce! Duce!?). This we have done with Gernamy, with its people, with its marvelous armed forces. On this eve of an event of century wide scope, we direct our thought to the majesty of the King and Emperor (the multitudes break out in great cheers for the House of Savoy) which as always has understood the soul of the fatherland. And we salute with our voices the Fuhrer, the head of great ally Germany (The people cheer Hitler at length). Proletarian and Fascist Italy stands up a third time, strong, proud, and united as never before. (The crowd cries with one single voice: ?Yes!?) The single order of the day is categorical and obligatory for all. It already spreads and fires hearts from the Alps to the Indian Ocean; Victory! (The people break out into raucous cheers). And we will win, in order finally to give a long period of peace with justice to Italy, to Europe, and to the world.

People of Italy!

Rush to arms and show your tenacity, your courage, your valor!

 

[scttgrd]

Get used to the blue in power for the next coulpe of years. Republicans had a chance to move this country in the right direction and failed in a spectacular way. Shut up and sit down, at least till you can come up with something better than the shit you have been serving for the last 8 years.

 

[Pepsei]

and if obama plays his cards right for the first four years, he'd keep his base and get more support, for another four years where he can also cash in on his political capital.

karma is great.

 

[Butterbean]

Another staged photo op ala Leni Riefenstahl. They could at least vary the angle now and then. Obama is like a "celebrity" on Hollywood Squares - he is famous for being famous - people come to gawk thinking he is MLK 2 (as told by media). They don't know he is Chavez Jr. It's a dopey country lately.

http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/k/8/goebbels1.jpg

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Another staged photo op ala Leni Riefenstahl. They could at least vary the angle now and then. Obama is like a "celebrity" on Hollywood Squares - he is famous for being famous - people come to gawk thinking he is MLK 2 (as told by media). They don't know he is Chavez Jr. It's a dopey country lately.

http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/k/8/goebbels1.jpg

That's a Godwin's law violation there Butterbean. Looks like you lose again.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Another staged photo op ala Leni Riefenstahl. They could at least vary the angle now and then. Obama is like a "celebrity" on Hollywood Squares - he is famous for being famous - people come to gawk thinking he is MLK 2 (as told by media). They don't know he is Chavez Jr. It's a dopey country lately.

http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/k/8/goebbels1.jpg

That's a Godwin's law violation there Butterbean. Looks like you lose again.

Wow Butterbean is really far gone. (Or he's doing it for the lulz.)

 

[scttgrd]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Another staged photo op ala Leni Riefenstahl. They could at least vary the angle now and then. Obama is like a "celebrity" on Hollywood Squares - he is famous for being famous - people come to gawk thinking he is MLK 2 (as told by media). They don't know he is Chavez Jr. It's a dopey country lately.

http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/k/8/goebbels1.jpg

Butterbean, you really are an ass. I was there, what you can not see in the pictures is the amount of people that really were there. It is kind of sad your need to believe things are somehow different in you little world. Dilusional is no way to go through life man. Wake the fu** up and see the country we have been left with.

 

[IronWing]

What does one do at a political rally? Yes, the candidate yacks for awhile but you can see that on TV. Opportunities to hook up with like minded folks? Buy t-shirts? I've been to two small campaign speeches in my life and they weren't really rallies, just whistle stops (Jesse Jackson and Jerry Brown).

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Dari
The show of support is great but more needs to be done.

Will Cyclowizard refute these numbers?

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.co...rs-yet-another-record/

Just the liberal media at Fox News blowing things out of proportion. Oh, wait...

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Well, I did go to a John Kerry rally once because the Foo Fighters were playing.

 

[scttgrd]

I guess you had to be there, 100 thousand people in one place to support one man. It was electric and so positive. It actually felt like things might actually change in this country. I am in no way a sappy person, but it seemed like politics could bring something more than promises.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Awesome. He's going to GOTV more than any candidate before him, not only for the Presidential race, but for the Democratic party as a whole.

The Blue Tide is going to be CRUSHING on November 4th. The GOP will wake up the next morning with a dim realization that the country as a whole overwhelmingly threw out their party from power. Not only will liberals control The White House, Senate and House, but after two terms worth of appointments the Judicial Branch as well.

Thanks GWB, and everyone who voted for him! :thumbsup:

Oh STFU already. You sound like Mussolini.

http://greatspeeches.wordpress...on-france-and-england/

Soldiers, sailors, and aviators! Black shirts of the revolution and of the [Fascist] legions! Men and women of Italy, of the Empire, and of the kingdom of Albania! Pay heed!
An hour appointed by destiny has struck in the heavens of our fatherland. (Very lively cheers).

The declaration of war has already been delivered (cheers, very loud cries of ?War! War!?) to the ambassadors of Great Britain and France. We go to battle against the plutocratic and reactionary
democracies of the west who, at every moment have hindered the advance and have often endangered the very existence of the Italian people.
Recent historical events can be summarized in the following phrases: promises, threats, blackmail, and finally to crown the edifice, the ignoble seige by the fifty-two states of the League of Nations. Our consience is absolutely tranquil. (Applause). With you the entire world is witness that Fascist Italy has done all that is humanly possible to avoit the torment which is throwing Europe into turmoil; but all was in vain. It would have suffieced to revise the treaties to bring them up to date with the changing needs of the life of nations and not consider them untouchable for eternity; it would have sufficed not to have begun the stupid policy of guarantees, which has shown itself particularly lethal for those who accepted them; it would have sufficed not to reject the proposal [for peace] that the Fuhrer made on 6 October of last year after having finished the campaign in Poland.

But now all of that belongs to the past. If now today we have decided to face the risks and the sacrifices of a war, it is because the honor, the interests, the future impose and iron necessity, since a great people is truly such if it considers sacred its own duties and noes not evade the supreme trials which deternin the course of history.

We take up arms to resolve, after having resolved the problem of our land frontier, the problem of our maritime frontiers; we want to break the territorial chains which suffocate us in our own sea; since a people of forty-five million sould is not truly free if it does not have free access to the ocean.

This gigantic struggle is nothing other than a phase in the logical development of our revolution; it is the struggle of peoples that are poor but rich in workers against the exploiters who hold on ferociously to the monopoly off all the riches and all the gold of the earth; it is the struggle of the fertile and young people against the sterile people moving to the sunset; it is the struggle between two centuries and two ideas.
Now that the die are cast and our will has burned ourships at aour backs, I solomnly declare that
Italy does not intend to drag into the conflict other peoples bordering her on land or on sea. Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Egypt take note of these my words and it depends on them
and only on them whether or not they will be rigorously confirmed.

Italians!

In a memorable meeting, that which took place in Berlin, I said that according to the laws of Fascist morality, when one has a friend, one marches with him to the end. (?Duce! Duce! Duce!?). This we have done with Gernamy, with its people, with its marvelous armed forces. On this eve of an event of century wide scope, we direct our thought to the majesty of the King and Emperor (the multitudes break out in great cheers for the House of Savoy) which as always has understood the soul of the fatherland. And we salute with our voices the Fuhrer, the head of great ally Germany (The people cheer Hitler at length). Proletarian and Fascist Italy stands up a third time, strong, proud, and united as never before. (The crowd cries with one single voice: ?Yes!?) The single order of the day is categorical and obligatory for all. It already spreads and fires hearts from the Alps to the Indian Ocean; Victory! (The people break out into raucous cheers). And we will win, in order finally to give a long period of peace with justice to Italy, to Europe, and to the world.

People of Italy!

Rush to arms and show your tenacity, your courage, your valor!

does this count under Godwin's law?

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Awesome. He's going to GOTV more than any candidate before him, not only for the Presidential race, but for the Democratic party as a whole.

The Blue Tide is going to be CRUSHING on November 4th. The GOP will wake up the next morning with a dim realization that the country as a whole overwhelmingly threw out their party from power. Not only will liberals control The White House, Senate and House, but after two terms worth of appointments the Judicial Branch as well.

Thanks GWB, and everyone who voted for him! :thumbsup:

Oh STFU already. You sound like Mussolini.

http://greatspeeches.wordpress...on-france-and-england/

Soldiers, sailors, and aviators! Black shirts of the revolution and of the [Fascist] legions! Men and women of Italy, of the Empire, and of the kingdom of Albania! Pay heed!
An hour appointed by destiny has struck in the heavens of our fatherland. (Very lively cheers).

The declaration of war has already been delivered (cheers, very loud cries of ?War! War!?) to the ambassadors of Great Britain and France. We go to battle against the plutocratic and reactionary
democracies of the west who, at every moment have hindered the advance and have often endangered the very existence of the Italian people.
Recent historical events can be summarized in the following phrases: promises, threats, blackmail, and finally to crown the edifice, the ignoble seige by the fifty-two states of the League of Nations. Our consience is absolutely tranquil. (Applause). With you the entire world is witness that Fascist Italy has done all that is humanly possible to avoit the torment which is throwing Europe into turmoil; but all was in vain. It would have suffieced to revise the treaties to bring them up to date with the changing needs of the life of nations and not consider them untouchable for eternity; it would have sufficed not to have begun the stupid policy of guarantees, which has shown itself particularly lethal for those who accepted them; it would have sufficed not to reject the proposal [for peace] that the Fuhrer made on 6 October of last year after having finished the campaign in Poland.

But now all of that belongs to the past. If now today we have decided to face the risks and the sacrifices of a war, it is because the honor, the interests, the future impose and iron necessity, since a great people is truly such if it considers sacred its own duties and noes not evade the supreme trials which deternin the course of history.

We take up arms to resolve, after having resolved the problem of our land frontier, the problem of our maritime frontiers; we want to break the territorial chains which suffocate us in our own sea; since a people of forty-five million sould is not truly free if it does not have free access to the ocean.

This gigantic struggle is nothing other than a phase in the logical development of our revolution; it is the struggle of peoples that are poor but rich in workers against the exploiters who hold on ferociously to the monopoly off all the riches and all the gold of the earth; it is the struggle of the fertile and young people against the sterile people moving to the sunset; it is the struggle between two centuries and two ideas.
Now that the die are cast and our will has burned ourships at aour backs, I solomnly declare that
Italy does not intend to drag into the conflict other peoples bordering her on land or on sea. Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Egypt take note of these my words and it depends on them
and only on them whether or not they will be rigorously confirmed.

Italians!

In a memorable meeting, that which took place in Berlin, I said that according to the laws of Fascist morality, when one has a friend, one marches with him to the end. (?Duce! Duce! Duce!?). This we have done with Gernamy, with its people, with its marvelous armed forces. On this eve of an event of century wide scope, we direct our thought to the majesty of the King and Emperor (the multitudes break out in great cheers for the House of Savoy) which as always has understood the soul of the fatherland. And we salute with our voices the Fuhrer, the head of great ally Germany (The people cheer Hitler at length). Proletarian and Fascist Italy stands up a third time, strong, proud, and united as never before. (The crowd cries with one single voice: ?Yes!?) The single order of the day is categorical and obligatory for all. It already spreads and fires hearts from the Alps to the Indian Ocean; Victory! (The people break out into raucous cheers). And we will win, in order finally to give a long period of peace with justice to Italy, to Europe, and to the world.

People of Italy!

Rush to arms and show your tenacity, your courage, your valor!

does this count under Godwin's law?

Would you rather me say he makes it sound like Gondor and Rohan marching on Mordor?

 

[Jhhnn]

Palin's oratory, like Cheney and Bush before her, resembles that of previous demagogues much more so than Obama's.

Obama's pitch is more cerebral, prodding his audience to think, while that of the repubs is entirely visceral, prompting the audience not to think, at all, but rather to feel, often to fear, and occasionally to despise... raw emotion.

Ever watch educational TV? Repub rallies are a lot like the threat displays from different troops of Chimpanzees or Baboons when they meet on the edges of their territories- it's as much about whipping your team into a frenzy as getting the other guy to back away... they might as well hoot, show their teeth, gesticulate and beat sticks on the ground- it'd have the same effect....

Why am I not surprised that the Rightwing vehemently denies evolution? because they're living proof that we really haven't come as far as we'd like, apparently...

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
the rightwingers are saying there's a free concert.... but why can't mccain do the same? get a free concert to warm up for mccain's speech0? it's not like people would leave after the concert is over if they block the exits...

He does, Hank Williams played at Palin's rally in Indiana.

 

[soundforbjt]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Pepsei
the rightwingers are saying there's a free concert.... but why can't mccain do the same? get a free concert to warm up for mccain's speech0? it's not like people would leave after the concert is over if they block the exits...

He does, Hank Williams played at Palin's rally in Indiana.

I think you meant Hank Williams Jr.

 

[Throckmorton]

What's up with Hank Williams Jr. being a fat sloppy redneck? What a disgrace.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Just listened to the daily NBC network news, they pegged the Denver numbers at only 50,000. I have no idea what numbers are true, but a 3X difference is rather extreme.

different rally that was afterwards doggie.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
the rightwingers are saying there's a free concert.... but why can't mccain do the same?

Lawrence Welk is dead.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: scttgrd

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Just listened to the daily NBC network news, they pegged the Denver numbers at only 50,000. I have no idea what numbers are true, but a 3X difference is rather extreme.

I was at the rally today, and there were closer to 150,000 people than 100,000. Im not sure who is saying 50,000 but they could not have been there and honestly called that number. Now 50,000 in Ft. Collins I can believe, for a town of only 120,000 to to show 50,000 is a real feat.

I've been to a couple of rally's in Denver. Hardly anyone spoke english though.

Do you believe a large majority of the 150,000 are registered and can vote?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

I've been to a couple of rally's in Denver.

What were they offering, free Pizza?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: scttgrd
I guess you had to be there, 100 thousand people in one place to support one man. It was electric and so positive. It actually felt like things might actually change in this country. I am in no way a sappy person, but it seemed like politics could bring something more than promises.

Huge rallies have a way of making you feel like that. Hopefully Obama isn't just a puppet and/or telling everyone what they want to hear. I won't hold my breath, but I can hope.