Obama comments to French President.....Nicolas Sarkozy

alien42

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"US President Barack Obama on Saturday welcomed France's decision to return to NATO's military command after a 43- year absence, saying France's 'full participation ... will contribute to a stronger alliance and a stronger Europe.'

'I enthusiastically welcome the decision made by French President Nicolas Sarkozy to fully reintegrate France into the NATO alliance,' Obama said in a statement.

'President Sarkozy's leadership has been essential and is much appreciated. France is a founding member of NATO and has been a strong contributor to NATO missions throughout the alliance's history.'"

http://www.monstersandcritics....eturn_to_NATO_command_


this is a great decision by French President Nicolas Sarkozy with Obama's full support. a stronger and more unified NATO will make the world a safer place. the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
 

miketheidiot

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i heard about this, and its certainly a good start.

also i'm eagerly awaiting out resident euro-haters (you know the ones :D) and our ods folks.
 

CanOWorms

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France is the country involved with orchestrating the atrocities of the Rwanda Genocide. A NATO military command with France is an evil the world cannot bear.
 

Lemon law

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After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq, it certainly weakened Nato, at the time when the Russian bear is slowly awakening from a protracted hibernation.

France's return to the Nato fold may help strengthen Nato, but the benefits or the liabilities still depend upon the collective wisdom of Nato members.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
also i'm eagerly awaiting out resident euro-haters (you know the ones :D) and our ods folks.

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
France is the country involved with orchestrating the atrocities of the Rwanda Genocide. A NATO military command with France is an evil the world cannot bear.

There you go.
 

ProfJohn

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the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq
Did you guys miss Sarkozy's visit to the US last year??

All of this started while Bush was still in office and has nothing to do with Obama.
It has more to do with Sarkozy than anything else.

CNN story from 2007
French president visits U.S. amid improved relations

WaPo story from 2006!!!!
Sarkozy is France's Interior minister and a potential candidate in France's presidential elections next spring. What sets him apart from his colleagues in France's political class is his unabashed admiration for the United States.
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq
Did you guys miss Sarkozy's visit to the US last year??

All of this started while Bush was still in office and has nothing to do with Obama.
It has more to do with Sarkozy than anything else.

CNN story from 2007
French president visits U.S. amid improved relations

WaPo story from 2006!!!!
Sarkozy is France's Interior minister and a potential candidate in France's presidential elections next spring. What sets him apart from his colleagues in France's political class is his unabashed admiration for the United States.
"the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama." - alien42

Lol...OP pwned. This type of lemming mentality is frightening.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq
Did you guys miss Sarkozy's visit to the US last year??

All of this started while Bush was still in office and has nothing to do with Obama.
It has more to do with Sarkozy than anything else.

CNN story from 2007
French president visits U.S. amid improved relations

WaPo story from 2006!!!!
Sarkozy is France's Interior minister and a potential candidate in France's presidential elections next spring. What sets him apart from his colleagues in France's political class is his unabashed admiration for the United States.
"the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama." - alien42

Lol...OP pwned. This type of lemming mentality is frightening.


Uh, I'm not seeing any "pwnage" there dude.. If you're suggesting that Bush didn't cause damage to US-European relations, you weren't paying a whole lot of attention over the previous 8 years.

Now whether or not Obama had anything to do with France realigning with NATO is obviously debatable. But the point is still valid that the US has a lot of healing to do with our allies in Europe.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq, it certainly weakened Nato, at the time when the Russian bear is slowly awakening from a protracted hibernation.

France's return to the Nato fold may help strengthen Nato, but the benefits or the liabilities still depend upon the collective wisdom of Nato members.

That GW Bush is certainly diabolical. He traveled all the way back to 1966 to cause France to leave NATO.
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Lemon law
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq, it certainly weakened Nato, at the time when the Russian bear is slowly awakening from a protracted hibernation.

France's return to the Nato fold may help strengthen Nato, but the benefits or the liabilities still depend upon the collective wisdom of Nato members.

That GW Bush is certainly diabolical. He traveled all the way back to 1966 to cause France to leave NATO.

:laugh:
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq
Did you guys miss Sarkozy's visit to the US last year??

All of this started while Bush was still in office and has nothing to do with Obama.
It has more to do with Sarkozy than anything else.

CNN story from 2007
French president visits U.S. amid improved relations

WaPo story from 2006!!!!
Sarkozy is France's Interior minister and a potential candidate in France's presidential elections next spring. What sets him apart from his colleagues in France's political class is his unabashed admiration for the United States.
"the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama." - alien42

Lol...OP pwned. This type of lemming mentality is frightening.


Uh, I'm not seeing any "pwnage" there dude.. If you're suggesting that Bush didn't cause damage to US-European relations, you weren't paying a whole lot of attention over the previous 8 years.

Now whether or not Obama had anything to do with France realigning with NATO is obviously debatable. But the point is still valid that the US has a lot of healing to do with our allies in Europe.

i stand by everything i said which did not include any indication that Obama was responsible for France rejoining NATO's military command. of course the purpose of this thread was to counterattack this thread which has since been locked and the title changed.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: alien42
i stand by everything i said which did not include any indication that Obama was responsible for France rejoining NATO's military command. of course the purpose of this thread was to counterattack this thread which has since been locked and the title changed.
I'm sorry but this part of the OP seems to contradict the bolded part above.
the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
Certainly seems that you were indicating that Obama had something to do with this.
 
Nov 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.
After GWB basically alienated both France and Germany over his decision to unilaterally invade Iraq
Did you guys miss Sarkozy's visit to the US last year??

All of this started while Bush was still in office and has nothing to do with Obama.
It has more to do with Sarkozy than anything else.

CNN story from 2007
French president visits U.S. amid improved relations

WaPo story from 2006!!!!
Sarkozy is France's Interior minister and a potential candidate in France's presidential elections next spring. What sets him apart from his colleagues in France's political class is his unabashed admiration for the United States.
"the damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama." - alien42

Lol...OP pwned. This type of lemming mentality is frightening.


Uh, I'm not seeing any "pwnage" there dude.. If you're suggesting that Bush didn't cause damage to US-European relations, you weren't paying a whole lot of attention over the previous 8 years.

Now whether or not Obama had anything to do with France realigning with NATO is obviously debatable. But the point is still valid that the US has a lot of healing to do with our allies in Europe.

i stand by everything i said which did not include any indication that Obama was responsible for France rejoining NATO's military command. of course the purpose of this thread was to counterattack this thread which has since been locked and the title changed.
PJ points out your obvious contradiction in the post above. And to Slick5150, I'm talking about France here and the OP specifically crediting Obama for improving US/France relations...please don't read anything into my post that isn't there.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: alien42
The damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.

And quickly being replaced by Obama's "overspent" button given to Russia, incompatible dvds given to Great Britain, willingness to use Poland and Czech Republic as pawns in international relations, a Teamsters payoff that sparked a trade war with Mexico, "youtube" video sent to and mocked by Iran, shall I continue or will you never see the errors in your words?
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i heard about this, and its certainly a good start.

also i'm eagerly awaiting out resident euro-haters (you know the ones :D) and our ods folks.

No, not me. I am quite pleased France is getting back in.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: alien42
The damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.

And quickly being replaced by Obama's "overspent" button given to Russia, incompatible dvds given to Great Britain, willingness to use Poland and Czech Republic as pawns in international relations, a Teamsters payoff that sparked a trade war with Mexico, "youtube" video sent to and mocked by Iran, shall I continue or will you never see the errors in your words?

sure, because we all expect our personae in the world's eye to swap a 180 overnight.

:roll:

and Iran, really? they would mock a video on anyone's watch.
 
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Ahh, Good thing France is back so they can get involved in another war and drop it America's lap.

But now that France is back in NATO, we should have a sound exit strategy. Send in the French to surrender.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: alien42
The damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.

And quickly being replaced by Obama's "overspent" button given to Russia, incompatible dvds given to Great Britain, willingness to use Poland and Czech Republic as pawns in international relations, a Teamsters payoff that sparked a trade war with Mexico, "youtube" video sent to and mocked by Iran, shall I continue or will you never see the errors in your words?

sure, because we all expect our personae in the world's eye to swap a 180 overnight.

:roll:

and Iran, really? they would mock a video on anyone's watch.

Well, I find it more insulting that Obama thought such a video might actually work...
 
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Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i heard about this, and its certainly a good start.

also i'm eagerly awaiting out resident euro-haters (you know the ones :D) and our ods folks.

No, not me. I am quite pleased France is getting back in.

I also welcome this initiative.

Mostly because it will mean that the EU and the US are moving forward also.

We really need to change the idea of EU vs US because even though some nutters think that is true, in reality, it's not but support for an EU vs US conflict will eventually become reality if we lett them think it is reality.

NATO is definently a force that brings the EU and the US closer to one another and i welcome a bigger and morve fruitful defense strategy for NATO in the years to come as well as the EU and the US both getting off of their high horses and try to cooperate instead of being idiots and blaming eachother.

Of course, RULE BRITANNIA! (just for the CoW(ard))
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: alien42
The damage that GWB did to the United States reputation is quickly being undone by Obama.

And quickly being replaced by Obama's "overspent" button given to Russia, incompatible dvds given to Great Britain, willingness to use Poland and Czech Republic as pawns in international relations, a Teamsters payoff that sparked a trade war with Mexico, "youtube" video sent to and mocked by Iran, shall I continue or will you never see the errors in your words?

sure, because we all expect our personae in the world's eye to swap a 180 overnight.

:roll:

and Iran, really? they would mock a video on anyone's watch.


It almost did with most of the EU nations, UK and Germany excluded.

Iran wants the US to lay down it's arms while they export weapons daily, it's not going to happen and no sanctions will be lifted until it does, not from the US and not from the EU.

Iran has the ball, they have to show their good will because they are the instigators.