Obama/Clinton 2008 thread:10-22-06 Obama says he is considering run

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nergee

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...I would vote for Hillary.....though I think she really is a Repub in disguise.......
 

Moonbeam

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Just two days ago I emailed Obama and told him to run. I am glad he listened. May he win in a land slide. There is a rising tide of rage building in America as the middle class turns black and finds our what it means to be out of a job.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Isn't he a bit young?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Hillary to be running for President, with Obama as vice president?

young? if he was elected, he'd actually be the third youngest president to be elected and overall fourth youngest to serve. besides, the constitution says anyone over 35, so no he's not too young.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Isn't he a bit young?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Hillary to be running for President, with Obama as vice president?

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I knew there was something wrong with your post---took me a few second to find it.

But there it is--------"make more sense"?????????

In the rareified world of Presidential politics---a twilight zone of image and no substance, a world of ego and imagination, any sense is a liability and a oximoron that never applies.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: jhu
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Isn't he a bit young?

Wouldn't it make more sense for Hillary to be running for President, with Obama as vice president?

young? if he was elected, he'd actually be the third youngest president to be elected and overall fourth youngest to serve. besides, the constitution says anyone over 35, so no he's not too young.

The two youngest were Kennedy and Teddy Roosevelt - one with 12 years in Congress, a Pulitzer Prize and a long history in diplomatic circles, the other a vice-president and Secretary of the Navy.

Obama is a 2 year Senator?
 

umbrella39

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someones troll posts seem to be getting skipped right over now-a-days LMAO

As for the OP, the country is not ready for this kind of ticket.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Just two days ago I emailed Obama and told him to run. I am glad he listened. May he win in a land slide. There is a rising tide of rage building in America as the middle class turns black and finds our what it means to be out of a job.



He would definitely have my vote... I like the guy... Seems smart...
 

BrownTown

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The problem with Obama is that he is soooo clearly setting himself up to make a whitehouse run. Personally I think hes just a 100% political whore who will do whatever it takes to get into office. I'm just amazed he has so many people convinced that hes is a political outsider when he is really the exact opposite.
 

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Originally posted by: ericlp
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Just two days ago I emailed Obama and told him to run. I am glad he listened. May he win in a land slide. There is a rising tide of rage building in America as the middle class turns black and finds our what it means to be out of a job.



He would definitely have my vote... I like the guy... Seems smart...

he'll win if he runs, without a doubt
 
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Originally posted by: loki8481
I still don't understand all the hillary hate.

everyone always made jokes during the 90's about how hillary was the real power behind the presidency, and I don't know... I thought the 90's were pretty great.

Totally agree. My primary investment account was earning 35%. We were building, adding on, investing, spending, living it up. Now it's the dark days, waiting for the tax and spend, stay the course- Republicans to finish destroying what's left of the country so we can start rebuilding.
Obama and Hillary have more smarts between them then the Bush cabinet in total.
 

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Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium
Originally posted by: loki8481
I thought the 90's were pretty great.

Totally agree. My primary investment account was earning 35%. We were building, adding on, investing, spending, living it up. Now it's the dark days, waiting for the tax and spend, stay the course- Republicans to finish destroying what's left of the country so we can start rebuilding.
Obama and Hillary have more smarts between them then the Bush cabinet in total.

The nineties were riding the coattail of the eigthies.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I still don't understand all the hillary hate.

everyone always made jokes during the 90's about how hillary was the real power behind the presidency, and I don't know... I thought the 90's were pretty great.

but she couldn't pull off the Healthcare reform.

Now would Americans back her on changing the Sham and Scam No Health Care Industry???
 

Wheatmaster

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i honestly think obama is no where near ready, hell he just got elected into the Senate, he has very little political experience IMO.
 

ayabe

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Obama has ZERO chance of being elected, absolutely ZERO. Hillary chances are also, ZERO.

We need a real candidate.
 

spunkz

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Obama has ZERO chance of being elected, absolutely ZERO. Hillary chances are also, ZERO.

We need a real candidate.

name a real candidate?
 

2Xtreme21

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I don't think any sitting Senator has a chance at the presidency. Everyone's too polarized anymore... but you kinda have to be to be a Senator. That's why of the last 10 elected presidents, only 2 had been Senators (FDR and JFK). Look for a few more governors to poke their heads out of the ground in the next year.
 
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Interesting how people are lining up behind a guy when they know so little about him. I'll admit, he intrigues me too. Young, good looking, intelligent, well spoken, full of energy... Can anyone tell me where he stands on the issues? Any of them?

He apparently refuses to submit to vote-smart
SENATOR BARACK H. OBAMA REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO PROVIDE ANY
RESPONSES TO CITIZENS ON ISSUES THROUGH THE 2004
NATIONAL POLITICAL AWARENESS TEST


SENATOR BARACK H. OBAMA REFUSED TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION WHEN ASKED TO DO SO BY:

Major News Organizations
and key national leaders of both parties including,

John McCain, Republican Senator
Geraldine Ferraro, Former Democratic Congresswoman
Michael Dukakis, Former Democratic Governor
Bill Frenzel, Former Republican Congressman
Richard Kimball, Project Vote Smart President
Then I found this site that uses quotes from public speaking engagments and a candidates voting record to determine his position on the issues... Link

Approves of allowing illegal immigrants to participate in Social Security and Medicare
Approves of a guest worker program with a path to citizenship for those in the country. (Amnesty)
Supports affirmative action
Approves of same-sex marriage
No on constitutional ban on flag burning
Pro-Abortion (including, according to one pundit I saw on TV yesterday, partial birth abortion)
Health care is a right - pro socialized medicine
Against school vouchers
Opposes death penalty
Wants to ban ALL semi-automatic weapons (There goes my 9mm and my brand new Springfield .40)
Repeal the capital gains tax cut - pro death tax
No on ANWR - Would vote for an outright ban on drilling in ANWR (Definitely not voting for him)
Voted against the July '07 Iraq pull out
Seems to be pro-military
Has voted for campaign finance reform - Voted yes for a lobbyist gift ban.

Left/Liberal

Overall he's a fairly left leaning candidate. Politically he's sounds like a typical liberal democrat. But he has a stage presence like I haven't seen in a candidate in a LONG time. When he talks, you can't help but like him. In that regard he's the Anti-Hill. Hill sounds like a dying cat on stage and there's very little about her that draws people in. She's as warm as a fudge-cicle.

People have been saying that Obama is too young or is lacking in experience. I don't think that will matter much when they're both standing side by side on stage. In a debate, Barak will mop the floor with Hill on likeability points alone. As for the experience card... It's not like Hill has the market cornered on experience. She was first lady and has one term in the senate under her belt. Not exactly a huge advantage when you think about it.

If Barak runs, I think he has a great chance.


 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Overall he's a fairly left leaning candidate. Politically he's sounds like a typical liberal democrat. But he has a stage presence like I haven't seen in a candidate in a LONG time. When he talks, you can't help but like him. In that regard he's the Anti-Hill. Hill sounds like a dying cat on stage and there's very little about her that draws people in. She's as warm as a fudge-cicle.

People have been saying that Obama is too young or is lacking in experience. I don't think that will matter much when they're both standing side by side on stage. In a debate, Barak will mop the floor with Hill on likeability points alone. As for the experience card... It's not like Hill has the market cornered on experience. She was first lady and has one term in the senate under her belt. Not exactly a huge advantage when you think about it.

If Barak runs, I think he has a great chance.

Bahahahahaha got Rush to have a Canary on this today.

He was like where does this guy get this stuff?

I think he's just jealous because I have a better shot than him :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Overall he's a fairly left leaning candidate. Politically he's sounds like a typical liberal democrat. But he has a stage presence like I haven't seen in a candidate in a LONG time. When he talks, you can't help but like him. In that regard he's the Anti-Hill. Hill sounds like a dying cat on stage and there's very little about her that draws people in. She's as warm as a fudge-cicle.

People have been saying that Obama is too young or is lacking in experience. I don't think that will matter much when they're both standing side by side on stage. In a debate, Barak will mop the floor with Hill on likeability points alone. As for the experience card... It's not like Hill has the market cornered on experience. She was first lady and has one term in the senate under her belt. Not exactly a huge advantage when you think about it.

If Barak runs, I think he has a great chance.

Bahahahahaha got Rush to have a Canary on this today.

He was like where does this guy get this stuff?

I think he's just jealous because I have a better shot than him :laugh:
I don't understand... You called Rush? And he had a CORONARY? What did you say?
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

I don't understand... You called Rush? And he had a CORONARY? What did you say?
Yeah, come on man, give us the details.

 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Overall he's a fairly left leaning candidate. Politically he's sounds like a typical liberal democrat. But he has a stage presence like I haven't seen in a candidate in a LONG time. When he talks, you can't help but like him. In that regard he's the Anti-Hill. Hill sounds like a dying cat on stage and there's very little about her that draws people in. She's as warm as a fudge-cicle.

People have been saying that Obama is too young or is lacking in experience. I don't think that will matter much when they're both standing side by side on stage. In a debate, Barak will mop the floor with Hill on likeability points alone. As for the experience card... It's not like Hill has the market cornered on experience. She was first lady and has one term in the senate under her belt. Not exactly a huge advantage when you think about it.

If Barak runs, I think he has a great chance.

Bahahahahaha got Rush to have a Canary on this today.

He was like where does this guy get this stuff?

I think he's just jealous because I have a better shot than him :laugh:
I don't understand... You called Rush? And he had a CORONARY? What did you say?


So are you the mystery caller who goes to great lengths to hide your identity and get past his screeners?