Obama checkmates himself on sequester

glenn1

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For weeks, Obama has been running around spouting predictions predictions of doom about the sequester and how they'll kill everything we hold dear. Now the dreaded day of sequester has arrived without Republicans giving in, that puts Obama in a box. If the sequester doesn't have the dire impacts he predicted, then he looks like a clueless twit who was trying to scare us for no reason. If he does allow cuts to be made in ways that severely impact people, voters will see him as incompetent for being unable to minimize the impacts of a 1.5% "cut" to the budget that isn't even a cut but rather an increase in the growth rate of spending. Considering the hard economic times, many households have needed to make bigger cuts to their budgets than the federal government has.

Even now, Obama realizes the trap he's in and has started walking back his previous warnings:

"This is not a cliff, but it is a tumble downward. It's conceivable that in the first week, the first two weeks, the first three weeks, the first month ... a lot of people may not notice the full impact of the sequester."

So the score in 2013 so far is 1-1 President to GOP (tax increases vs. sequester). Should be interesting to see how the debt ceiling increase fight goes at the end of the month.
 

Genx87

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Of course he is backing away. This whole thing was big show. Slightly less increase in spending. No real cuts.
 

Genx87

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lmao I guess that is a drop from the 500 million Pelosi predicted a few years ago.
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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Every politician rails on about waste, fraud and abuse. Give them a golden opportunity to actually deal with some of it and this is what we get. Fear-mongering.
 

unokitty

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ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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Whoever thought that Obama would take a page out of Nixon's strategy book?

Watergate journalist Bob Woodward 'threatened' by White House


Looking out my window, the street isn't full of illegals er undocumented peoples.

Sequester blamed for the release of a 'wave' of illegal aliens

And, even if the street was full of illegals, I've always had better experiences with immigrants, legal and otherwise, than I have had with Obamas puppets in DHS and ICE.

Uno

Do you smell anything other than farts in your bubble?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/exclusive-the-woodward-sperling-emails-revealed-88226.html
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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I really do hope Republicans see this sequester through. The only thing that the Dems can do to save face is to tactfully place the cuts where they maximize damage to certain key constituents, which of course is not saving face at all. The amount being cut from the budget is so miniscule, it's at the point of absurdity.
 

Thump553

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Jun 2, 2000
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Whoever thought that Obama would take a page out of Nixon's strategy book?

Watergate journalist Bob Woodward 'threatened' by White House

Looking out my window, the street isn't full of illegals er undocumented peoples.

Sequester blamed for the release of a 'wave' of illegal aliens

And, even if the street was full of illegals, I've always had better experiences with immigrants, legal and otherwise, than I have had with Obamas puppets in DHS and ICE.

Uno

Only Bob Woodward, who considers himself a prince of Washington, would consider that extremely polite email (from an aide, not from Obama) to be a threat. Woodward doesn't belong in the big leagues anymore if he (or anyone else) actually considers that a threat.

As to the OP's assertion, don't delude yourself. Noone ever said the negative impacts of Congress' boneheaded play regarding sequestration would be instantaneously apparent. You show a remarkable lack of understanding of economics, or even cause and effect for that matter.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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As to the OP's assertion, don't delude yourself. Noone ever said the negative impacts of Congress' boneheaded play regarding sequestration would be instantaneously apparent. You show a remarkable lack of understanding of economics, or even cause and effect for that matter.

Tell that to the 170 million people who lost their jobs today.
 

monovillage

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Only Bob Woodward, who considers himself a prince of Washington, would consider that extremely polite email (from an aide, not from Obama) to be a threat. Woodward doesn't belong in the big leagues anymore if he (or anyone else) actually considers that a threat.

As to the OP's assertion, don't delude yourself. Noone ever said the negative impacts of Congress' boneheaded play regarding sequestration would be instantaneously apparent. You show a remarkable lack of understanding of economics, or even cause and effect for that matter.

As someone who lived through the Watergate episode I can't tell you how delicious it is to see Democrats and lefties like you attacking Woodward for once again telling the truth. I honestly think you guys have forgotten what real journalism looks like.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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they say shit like this because they know nobody (but the other party and they don't matter) is going to hold them to it. they can make these wild claims, then 2 months latter say the oppisoite and they know there base will back them.
 

CPA

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She mispoke, she meant 170k jobs. Beyond that I think the number is still high.

sure she did. She knew what she was doing, it was intentional, and stupid. Nobody hears about the correction, they only hear the first statement.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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As someone who lived through the Watergate episode I can't tell you how delicious it is to see Democrats and lefties like you attacking Woodward for once again telling the truth. I honestly think you guys have forgotten what real journalism looks like.



Lol, let me guess you didn't bother reading my link because its biased?
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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That works both ways.

well duh. politicians say shit like this. why? the base will nod and go "oh no! we have got to do whatever they say" and continue to vote the idiot it. the opposition will point out the reality but again her base will either flame them or bury there heads in the sand.

this goes both ways. politicans live on gloom and doom. the more scared the public is the better for them
 

monovillage

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Lol, let me guess you didn't bother reading my link because its biased?

I had already read it before you posted it. My opinion still stands. and btw your progressive tears on honest coverage of the Obama taste delicious.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Apr 12, 2004
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This thread clearly demonstrates that the opposition will ignore the reality (that she corrected herself) rather than point it out. 170,000,000 jobs lost is such a ridiculous proposition that only the most ridiculously stupid Democrat fanboys would be swayed by it. Who makes sure that the first statement is heard more loudly than the correction right now?
 

ivwshane

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I had already read it before you posted it. My opinion still stands. and btw your progressive tears on honest coverage of the Obama taste delicious.

So you read it and then you still state he was telling the truth? Those tears aren't from crying but from laughing at your pathetic ass. Even when presented with the facts you still choose to be dishonest and ignore them.