Obama buys gun and shoots himself in the foot on healthcare

[Moonbeam]

You can't live forever at the expense of others. Eventually you have to die so get used to that idea that nature gave you and the human species a time-limit in regards to a lifespan. Nature is the ultimate capitalist she ensures that for every attempt to manipulate the cost of life and extend it well beyond it measure there will be a price to be paid elsewhere in life and at the expense of another living creature, be it man, other fauna or flora.

Even a simpleton knows that you can't extend life beyond its measure. What a few folk would like is to live up to that measure instead of dying decades earlier that that.

 

[LunarRay]

You can't live forever at the expense of others. Eventually you have to die so get used to that idea that nature gave you and the human species a time-limit in regards to a lifespan. Nature is the ultimate capitalist she ensures that for every attempt to manipulate the cost of life and extend it well beyond it measure there will be a price to be paid elsewhere in life and at the expense of another living creature, be it man, other fauna or flora.

Well.... to the folks you'd relegate to the death bed when there exist means and methods to override that seems wanting.

I'm sorta the type that looks at stuff initially from a cost perspective... So let's do that for a moment... The marginal cost of producing more pills, for instance, beyond what would be purchased does not usually increase the fixed costs at all and the direct cost of those pills is significantly insignificant... So... how can that be "... at the expense of others ..."

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Even a simpleton knows that you can't extend life beyond its measure. What a few folk would like is to live up to that measure instead of dying decades earlier that that.

"The wisdom of ages scorned for the cheap glitter of todays coin."

Lamentations for a Modern Zion.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Even a simpleton knows that you can't extend life beyond its measure. What a few folk would like is to live up to that measure instead of dying decades earlier that that.

No you are wrong. Life is already being extended beyond the natural measure of most peoples predetermined existence via medical treatments and pharmaceuticals

Without the advent and advancement of modern medicine and all its treatments many humans would not be able to live well beyond the years that they are currently living up to in today's society. Most people in our society would more then likely of died 10-20 years earlier then the average age they are living up to right now and for which we see continual increase in relation to modern medical breakthroughs which continually seeks to combat nature's natural limit on our lifespans.

It is because of the massive expansion and advancements of for profit pharmaceuticals (and the medical treatments tied to them) that as a result has continually extended the life and well being of humans which is responsible for us living beyond the measure of our natural lifespans. However this ability has come at the cost of these same pharmaceuticals and the medical treatments being in some cases prohibitively expensive due to the limited resources involved, along with the effort and skill required to bring these items or medical expertise to market.

Nevertheless to try to mask these costs ends up with individuals not being able to determine the true cost and value of modern medicine and its ability to provide the improved care that greatly extends the lives of people well beyond their natural ability to exist if nature had its way. This in turn leads to many other negative side effects like waste of limited resources, eventual price increases due to a distortion on the amount of resources available, and a shifting and reassignment of many resources from other areas in society to continue keeping an every larger segment of our population alive at the expense of others in society (aka you are seeing this issue being displayed with the SS and medicare debate and their associated shortfalls), etc.

 

[spittledip]

Nope, that would be Ethics.

Well, technically I suppose, but corruption would not be considered wrong if there was not morality to say it is wrong. Ethics just defines rules within a culture, but has no power to say something is right or wrong. Something that is unethical is not necessarily morally wrong. Of course, I am not sure one would say that defrauding a populace is not both unethical and immoral.

 

[Jaskalas]

There is no way to fix DC, we should just wipe it off the map and start over.

Secession will be the only solution. No need to wipe anything when you can simply ignore it.

 

[Lithium381]

why try so hard, someone else will be there to take care of you

 

[Double Trouble]

Seems like what's going on here is that the administration simply recognized the incontrovertible truth that the CLASS program was doomed to be a failure. I'm somewhat surprised by their acceptance of that fact.

Some interesting tidbits:

That’s the same conclusion a top government expert reached in 2009. Nearly a year before the health care law passed, Richard Foster, head of long-range economic forecasts for Medicare, warned administration and congressional officials that CLASS would be unworkable. His warnings were disregarded, as President Barack Obama declared his support for adding the long-term care plan to his health care bill.

And here's the likely reason for axing this:

The demise of CLASS immediately touched off speculation about its impact on the federal budget. Although no premiums are likely to be collected, the program still counts as reducing the federal deficit by about $80 billion over the next 10 years.

I can see it now "we worked to reduce the deficit by $80 billion!"...

This thing was screwed from the beginning, but in the zeal to pass the (equally flawed) health care bill they pushed this crap with it.

 

[werepossum]

Perhaps one day people who have an understanding of how things work and how they are will get together and Congress will take their advice. I gave up on holding my breath over that one.

Congress already does that.

Wait, you DID mean to say take their MONEY, right?

 

[Macamus Prime]

Whats' this guy been doing for three years?

I guess locating and killing Osama doesn't mean much to you.

Did catching Osama mean something to you when Bush was in the White House?