Obama: Black Lawmakers Must Rally Voters Back Home

[JeffreyLebowski]

How long until we can have blacks start at the same race line and undo the effects a century of racism had to put them way back, the effects still in place today?

Apparently sometime in the early 60's. You seem to forget, Obama is black and is the president. Colin Powell is black and was secretary of state, a National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Cheifs, among other distinctions.

Stop acting like the black man is being held down by whites. The only thing holding blacks down now, and for the last several decades, are other blacks. MLK Jr was a peaceful man, but if he was alive today I think he would beat the shit out of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
To many say blacks can't achieve anything because of the past. That's horse shit. That's a cop out for lazy people that don't want to do what other successfull people do and that is have motivation and determination. You act like all white people get some free ride and everything is just handed to them on a silver platter.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

There is propaganda that efforts to held reduce the legacy effects of racism are harmful, and like any good propganda, there is a bit of truth, but it's more a lie.

The same sort of logic can be used to argue the police want to perpetuate rather than end crime, that the medical industry doesn't want people health, and so on.

Anyone who can't see past the propaganda, the discussion isn't going to get much done.

Dems are all for addressing the problems with the efforts; leading Dems involved in the Great Society have acknowlege mistakes and the need to avoid dependancy and other issues.

The problem is the people who don't share the goal of addressing the legacy effects of racism at all, who are more than happy to leave blacks greatly handicapped for decades to come.

They don't want to fix the efforts, they want to destroy them and leave the problem in place.

Dems know they can't come close to really addressing it, but they can reduce the injustice.

So yo uare admitting that democrat policies were and are designed to keep blacks poor?

 

[bfdd]

How long until we can do away with groups like black caucus and black commerce and NAACP and just treat each other like people? 10 years? 50?

always wondering the same.

 

[bfdd]

There is propaganda that efforts to held reduce the legacy effects of racism are harmful, and like any good propganda, there is a bit of truth, but it's more a lie.

The same sort of logic can be used to argue the police want to perpetuate rather than end crime, that the medical industry doesn't want people health, and so on.

Anyone who can't see past the propaganda, the discussion isn't going to get much done.

Dems are all for addressing the problems with the efforts; leading Dems involved in the Great Society have acknowlege mistakes and the need to avoid dependancy and other issues.

The problem is the people who don't share the goal of addressing the legacy effects of racism at all, who are more than happy to leave blacks greatly handicapped for decades to come.

They don't want to fix the efforts, they want to destroy them and leave the problem in place.

Dems know they can't come close to really addressing it, but they can reduce the injustice.

Segregating people has done excellent in pushing an equal view towards all. Everyone knows this.

 

[Darwin333]

Apparently sometime in the early 60's. You seem to forget, Obama is black and is the president. Colin Powell is black and was secretary of state, a National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Cheifs, among other distinctions.

Stop acting like the black man is being held down by whites. The only thing holding blacks down now, and for the last several decades, are other blacks. MLK Jr was a peaceful man, but if he was alive today I think he would beat the shit out of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
To many say blacks can't achieve anything because of the past. That's horse shit. That's a cop out for lazy people that don't want to do what other successfull people do and that is have motivation and determination. You act like all white people get some free ride and everything is just handed to them on a silver platter.

There is generally some truth in "where you end up depends on where you start". Then you pack all the poor people into one small section of town like sardines with little to no interaction with the real world but surrounded daily by crime and drugs exactly what do you expect? "Environment" has a LOT to do with who we are just like most other animals. Then to top it off you actually punish those who try to climb out of the poverty and reward those that remain. Again, what outcome are you expecting?

But hey, as long as we don't have to see/deal with/interact with those poor fuckers, who cares right?

BTW, the majority of "those people" are anything but lazy.

 

[dwell]

Apparently sometime in the early 60's. You seem to forget, Obama is black and is the president. Colin Powell is black and was secretary of state, a National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Cheifs, among other distinctions.

Never been an Asian president, never been a Hispanic president, Italian, Jewish, or Indian either. Funny how a black got elected before any of those minority groups, isn't it?

 

[Darwin333]

No, they're expanded without reform largely because there's too much opposition to reform by conservatives. The only reform most are interested in is reduction/ending.

Mind providing some examples, I don't recall any bills that would have meaningfully reformed the programs we are talking about but I could have missed it? Also, your comments are contradictory. The conservatives block reform, demanding reduction instead, but "allow" its expansion?


I assume from your lack of reply that you are not going to take me up on my offer? We don't even have to speak a word about politics, just good food, good people and good times.

 

[umbrella39]

LOL I love the stereotypes in his speach. Barbershops, Churches, Beauty Salons LOL. He forgot chicken, watermelon and greens.

Well to be fair he could have said in rest stops, churches, and airport stalls, but he'd have been rallying the wrong team.

 

[hal2kilo]

How long until we can do away with groups like black caucus and black commerce and NAACP and just treat each other like people? 10 years? 50?

When these types of blantantly bigoted posts disappear.

 

[epidemis]

Not unless you are connecting a whole lot of dots it doesn't. Your OP states.. he implored black voters a to tell people there is more work to be done at among other places, church. Nowhere does it say or even imply he was suggesting ministers go preach politics to their congregations. He was speaking about co-workers telling co-workers. Neighbor telling neighbor. Parishioners telling parishioners. Hair-cutee telling hair-cutter. This was a get out the vote rally. Not a church meeting.

He still appeals to race, and it's.. less than ideal. I can understand why he does it, but it's still.. less than ideal.

Now a republican can just go out, look they [social group] are highly organized and voting their interest , we better rally in kind, and when both are playing the dirty dirty game of race-based voting, the biggest [social group] wins.

 

[PokerGuy]

If that were the case, 98% of churches in this country would lose their tax status

I don't know what churches you go to, but I've never heard any kind of politics discussed at the church I attend. If there was political discussion I would object and if it didn't stop I would no longer attend that church.

If there is talk about abortion/pro life in a church, that's not political speech unless specific candidates are mentioned / supported etc.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Apparently sometime in the early 60's. You seem to forget, Obama is black and is the president. Colin Powell is black and was secretary of state, a National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Cheifs, among other distinctions.

Stop acting like the black man is being held down by whites. The only thing holding blacks down now, and for the last several decades, are other blacks. MLK Jr was a peaceful man, but if he was alive today I think he would beat the shit out of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
To many say blacks can't achieve anything because of the past. That's horse shit. That's a cop out for lazy people that don't want to do what other successfull people do and that is have motivation and determination. You act like all white people get some free ride and everything is just handed to them on a silver platter.

Can a 'Black' Name Affect Job Prospects?

"You really never know why you don't get called back for that interview. I thought it was because of my job skills, or my résumé wasn't appropriate, but I never thought it was because of my name," Carita said.

She was shocked by the calls from potential employers — not to her, but to her fictitious white counterpart. "I was just blown away that Kathleen got phone calls for three of the four weeks of the study, and I didn't get any. And Kathleen does not exist," she said.

Arsenetta also was envious of her fictitious white alter ego, Kimberly.

"They were calling her morning, noon and night," she said. "I was standing there looking at my phone going, 'God, I want to answer that phone call and tell the man I'm interested in this job!' "

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124232&page=2

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I don't know what churches you go to, but I've never heard any kind of politics discussed at the church I attend. If there was political discussion I would object and if it didn't stop I would no longer attend that church.

If there is talk about abortion/pro life in a church, that's not political speech unless specific candidates are mentioned / supported etc.

Same experience here...I've attended many churches over the years and I don't recall politics ever being mentioned. jpeyton makes it up as he goes along....why am I not surprised.

BTW...anybody know why nick1985 got banned?

 

[epidemis]

Can a 'Black' Name Affect Job Prospects?


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124232&page=2

I'd call sheen due to the sample size, but after giving it some thought I think giving your children weird names will probably hurt their job-seeking. I think that's plausible. Perhaps they should have a) a larger sample b) control test where they substitute the supposed "black" names with other weird name without an ethnic bias

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'd call sheen due to the sample size, but after giving it some thought I think giving your children weird names will probably hurt their job-seeking. I think that's plausible. Perhaps they should have a) a larger sample b) control test where they substitute the supposed "black" names with other weird name without an ethnic bias

Dweezil, Moon Unit, and Diva Thin Muffin Pigeen come to mind. :biggrin:

 

[Darwin333]

I'd call sheen due to the sample size, but after giving it some thought I think giving your children weird names will probably hurt their job-seeking. I think that's plausible. Perhaps they should have a) a larger sample b) control test where they substitute the supposed "black" names with other weird name without an ethnic bias

Throw in Bubba and Billy Joe Bob too. I would wager in a lot of the cases its more of a "class" thing than a race thing. OTOH, blatant racism does still exist and probably always will. More so if we continue to purposely segregate ourselves.

 

[DesiPower]

aaahhhh, the true color of politics!

 

[highland145]

Any church that gets involved in politics ought to have its tax status yanked, no matter what the color of their congregation.

Agree.

Personal experience. ~12 years ago, the wife was running for an elected office. A black pastor friend of hers says, "Come by on Sunday morning." He introduces her to his flock of ~200, tells them that on election day, they are to vote for her, makes them repeat her name.

Maybe they didn't listen. She lost.

 

[ayabe]

Then you better not come down to the South. We have so many revs., preachers, ministers, and the so called "men of God" get involve with politics (almost exclusively Democrat).

They are almost exclusively conservative/Republican just over abortion, in other words you're completely full of shit.

 

[tinker2141]

When these types of blantantly bigoted posts disappear.

When I can legitimately create an organization promoted the rights of White Americans. Or we just get rid of the other organizations and treat each other as human beings. Both work fine for me.