Obama at my University today

[Mill]

Tickets sold out too quickly for me to get them. Free tickets, so I'm not shocked. There are over 11k people in the arena that holds 9k. There are crowds outside of the arena itself. People are pumped up -- there is an incredible energy in the air. Barack Obama sure is someone special... he gets people pumped up about voting *for* him instead of voting for him as an alternative to crappy candidates.

 

[Farang]

Lucky.. I'm hoping he stops in my shitty town. There is a good chance if the election is still close come March, I'm in a college town out in the middle of nowhere that would probably break for him and all that is needed is the enthusiasm to go out and vote. I was thinking about joining the Young Democrats but I'm afraid I'll show up at the first meeting and they'll all be rabid Clinton supporters :laugh:

 

[Fern]

he gets people pumped up about voting *for* him instead of voting for him

Yeah, I don't recall seeing anything like this before. If it continues it'll be pretty amazing.

Fern

 

[Killerme33]

He came and spoke at my University back in November. I went and he gave a pretty good speech.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Mill
Tickets sold out too quickly for me to get them. Free tickets, so I'm not shocked. There are over 11k people in the arena that holds 9k. There are crowds outside of the arena itself. People are pumped up -- there is an incredible energy in the air. Barack Obama sure is someone special... he gets people pumped up about voting *for* him instead of voting for him as an alternative to crappy candidates.

Yeah, I saw that. I was interesting in listening to him speak but wasn't able to either. You can still hear him over the PA system outside the building in the streets. I know because I'm currently next door in Campbell Hall grading calculus tests. They have an impressive size crowd...

 

[0roo0roo]

the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

I wouldn't say sheep. I would say students at the University level are people that still have hope for the future; people that believe that they can push for change through the corruption that exists today instead of falling in line with the status quo. This reality you talk of is only that way because YOU let it be that way. You're the one that's been disillusioned and given up on your ideals.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

I guess by insulting university students and faculty you will convince them to back Clinton?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

like anyone else does. Also what dari said.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

I guess by insulting university students and faculty you will convince them to back Clinton?

No, but he can demonstrate that he's a jaded cynical asshole who hates and fears hope. He is worldly wise and will not be fooled again. He will stay dead.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

The bulk of the crowd wasn't from the University.

 

[SleepWalkerX]

I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

Did you visit his site?

 

[SleepWalkerX]

Originally posted by: Dari
Did you visit his site?

Yes. But like any rationally minded person I want to hear his positions come straight from his mouth. He needs to talk about the issues and not about how nice a world would be if we all just got along.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX

Originally posted by: Dari
Did you visit his site?

Yes. But like any rationally minded person I want to hear his positions come straight from his mouth. He needs to talk about the issues and not about how nice a world would be if we all just got along.

Well, I don't live in any of these popular states so I can't vouch for what he says. But I'm sure he goes into detail every now and then. If he didn't people would see right through him. He certainly talks about them in the debates. Remember last summer when he kept making controversial headline after controversial headline? Apparently, they weren't so controversial after all, seeing that he's a serious candidate in this stage of the game.

 

[FoBoT]

his TV ads are the only POTUS ads i have seen on local TV, none for HildeBeast or any Repubs

if he comes to K.C. i would probably try to be there

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

If reality is Billary, then no thanks.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

Well one can say Billary has all these grand ideas(which she doesn't the candidates are almost virtually the same on policy issues), they would have to get them through Congress, which means working with Republicans. How many republicans are going to embrace Billary? Next to none. How much stuff is going to get done? None. Obama is right, its time to put the partisanship behind, and move forward. That cannot be done with Billary. Even the Democratic Stalwarts are saying as much now. Kennedy has a lot of Dem cred, hes politically, the most powerful and influential Senator for the Dems.

 

[Butterbean]

Obama is perfect candidate for college girls who think incense and orgasms are "spiritual". They can go see him speak and make "O"'s with their arms while BO says "hope" in every other sentence and talks in vaguries about the "future being different from the past" (how moronic). I would vote for hiim before Hillary, but the Clinton's are correct that Obama is empty calories who never says anything when he talks. Which is probably a good thing in Obama's case because the few times I have seen him give an idea its a horror show like invading Pakistan.

 

[SleepWalkerX]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

Well one can say Billary has all these grand ideas(which she doesn't the candidates are almost virtually the same on policy issues), they would have to get them through Congress, which means working with Republicans. How many republicans are going to embrace Billary? Next to none. How much stuff is going to get done? None. Obama is right, its time to put the partisanship behind, and move forward. That cannot be done with Billary. Even the Democratic Stalwarts are saying as much now. Kennedy has a lot of Dem cred, hes politically, the most powerful and influential Senator for the Dems.

I'm not saying Billary is any better. If someone pointed a gun to my head and told me to choose between Hillary and Obama then it'd be Obama. But as long as I have my free will I can't conceive voting for either one.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the sheep are easily led by charm. university is filled with children who don't know talk from reality.

crawl back under your rock please

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

links please.....as you just insinuated talk is cheap.....

 

[SleepWalkerX]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I actually have to agree with 0roo0roo. I am not so easily swayed by an emotional speech calling for change in our country. I am rather more inclined to hear what he'll change, why he'll change it, etc. I listened to one of his speeches and he didn't talk about any of his positions. He only talked about unity or something. I was kinda thinking, "Sure those things sound real nice, but wtf are YOU gonna do?" I'm surprised people will just accept his pretty speeches.

Then I have to hear from someone else that he's for socialized healthcare. That's a pretty stupid idea. It's another business that people think the government should get in to, but will only end up failing just like Social Security. And another thing is I'm not willing to vote for someone who would easily ignore civil liberties during a crisis. I know that some people are ok with that, but I'm certainly not. He is better than 99% of our politicians, but I'm not willing to vote for him for President.

links please.....as you just insinuated talk is cheap.....

Out of the speeches. Just pick any one. They all sound nice and pretty.

Civil Liberties - See Patriot Act.

Socialized Healthcare - See his website for more information.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Well one can say Billary has all these grand ideas(which she doesn't the candidates are almost virtually the same on policy issues), they would have to get them through Congress, which means working with Republicans. How many republicans are going to embrace Billary? Next to none. How much stuff is going to get done? None. Obama is right, its time to put the partisanship behind, and move forward. That cannot be done with Billary. Even the Democratic Stalwarts are saying as much now. Kennedy has a lot of Dem cred, hes politically, the most powerful and influential Senator for the Dems.

I sure wish I could agree. Even should Barack win, I have to assume the Repubs will do their best never to let partisanship be 'put behind,' much as we would like it to be so. However, Barack has a chance to build a lasting Independent/Democrat coalition, which the Clintons will never be able to do. Barack also respects and appreciates the Democrat grassroots, which the Clintons and their staffers frankly loathe and wish would go away.

AFAIC, the Republicans can't be considered to be responsible stewards to the government or the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Based on all the available evidence, Republicans put Party above Country. Until this changes, partisanship can never really go away.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX

Out of the speeches. Just pick any one. They all sound nice and pretty.

Civil Liberties - See Patriot Act.

Socialized Healthcare - See his website for more information.

Ummm... Barack was not in the US Senate when the Patriot Act was passed. So it's hard to see what you're getting at here.

Using heated code words doesn't make a logical argument.

But while we're on the topic... Socialized Healthcare? Sounds good to me. Damn sight better than the Murder by Spreadsheet mess we have now.