Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: alchemize
I think it's clear who the trolls are here...I haven't seen one response to the issue from the resident lefties in nearing three pages on this thread.
That's because the "issue" as it was presented is absolutely absurd. Butterbean's entire OP was dedicated to ridiculing the language "gender identity." I almost minored in gender studies in college (I was one class off; to my credit, I did not realize how close I was to the minor until my final semester, as I had never intended to minor in gender studies), so not only have I (presumably) read significantly more material on the concept of gender identity than Butterbean, I personally believe the gender continuum exists and that we do place ourselves along it based on the masculine and feminine traits we possess or portray to the world. So in this regard, I believe Obama's use of the phrase "gender identity" is appropriate when discussing gender politics and transgender issues.
I will NOT argue semantics with a poster like Butterbean because his ideology, at least as portrayed through his posting on this forum, show a mindset that is completely closed to any idea that differs from his own. He has never, at any point in his time here, shown that any form of argumentation can sway him from his opinion, now matter how much evidence may contradict it. There is no reasoning with a mindset like that, especially one so steeped in bigotry, and since I'm just a crazy blue-state son of a ***, I know I will never convince Butterbean of anything he doesn't want to be convinced of. Consequently, I ridicule his bigotry and move on.
A closed mind does not lead to an open discussion, which is why the conversation in this topic has gone as it has. There's not a single poster on the left who is stupid enough to think they can change Butterbean's mind on this, so we don't try.