O&O Defrag 14 and SSDs

nyfirefly11

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I've had O&O 12 for a while, and it's great for defragging hdds. They just released version 14, which apparently supports "optimizing" SSDs (whitepaper here: http://www.oo-software.com/en/docs/whitepaper/ood_ssd.pdf).

As far as I can tell, the optimization is simply using the TRIM command, so I'm not sure it's doing anything more than what Windows is doing.

It also sounds like you have to enable their optimization for any TRIM to work at all (Win or O&O).

Any thoughts?
 

sub.mesa

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SATA drivers must be able to pass on TRIM commands to SSDs (ask the manufacturer if necessary)
Currently, only the latest drivers from Intel (iaStor) and the Windows native AHCI driver from Microsoft (msahci) can pass on TRIM commands
So all it does is TRIMming free space; which the OS should do anyways if you have TRIM capability. If you don't, this software wouldn't work anyway.

You should never defragment an SSD, and although this 'SSD optimization' mode doesn't cause any harm (it doesn't write to the SSD; just issues TRIM), it is not really defragmenting what you're doing; but rather something similar to the Intel Toolbox manual TRIM utility. The only reason this could be useful is if you used your SSD for a period without TRIM, for example in RAID or with the wrong chipset driver. Then you would want to perform a manual TRIM on all free space.

So bottom line, this app is useless.
 

Nothinman

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It's just a defrag manufacturer trying to peddle another flavor of snakeoil now that their software is even less relevant than before.