O.J. Simpson found GUILTY!

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Clearly he needed to steal DirecTV in order to help him with his hunt for the real killers.

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[mugs]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: mugs


If cable lines pass over or under my property, should I have the right to just splice in and borrow their signal too?

Yes, if it's not in a right-of-way and that you don't have services with said company.

Why should it make a difference if it's in a right-of-way? It's still my property. You could say that the FCC owns the ROW for a particular band of the electromagnetic spectrum in the United States - it's essentially the same situation.

Nice job editing my other point. In order for these signals to exist in the first place, there has to be restrictions. Otherwise there'd be nothing to pirate. I for one am glad that there is an alternative to the cable monopoly.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: mugs
In order for these signals to exist in the first place, there has to be restrictions. Otherwise there'd be nothing to pirate. I for one am glad that there is an alternative to the cable monopoly.

I couldn't agree more.

I suppose that I should be able to use anyone's wireless internet signal? How about cel phone transmissions... Is that ok for me to tap into anyone's signal also? :roll:

 

[MrCodeDude]

Yeah, I think $25K is standard. My friend's neighbor was summoned and fined $25k for pirating DirectTV. I think he was able to get it down to $5000 or something.

It was funny too, because his neighbor subscribed to DirectTV, he just used a spare box and dish to get HBO, Cinemax and PPV.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: mugs
In order for these signals to exist in the first place, there has to be restrictions. Otherwise there'd be nothing to pirate. I for one am glad that there is an alternative to the cable monopoly.

I couldn't agree more.

I suppose that I should be able to use anyone's wireless internet signal? How about cel phone transmissions... Is that ok for me to tap into anyone's signal also? :roll:

Yes you should be able to. If the signals aren't secure enough to prevent others from tinkering with then the companies need to work harder to ensure that their signals are secure. Since you guys are using examples, what about outdoor concerts. People have to pay to get inside to listen to a band, but what about the folks outside the fence. since sound travels via wavelengths just like cell, wifi, and satelite, shouldn't these people pay too.

 

[KK]

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[mugs]

Originally posted by: KK
Yes you should be able to. If the signals aren't secure enough to prevent others from tinkering with then the companies need to work harder to ensure that their signals are secure. Since you guys are using examples, what about outdoor concerts. People have to pay to get inside to listen to a band, but what about the folks outside the fence. since sound travels via wavelengths just like cell, wifi, and satelite, shouldn't these people pay too.

At least make it a valid analogy - if they put up a sound barrier to prevent the noise from being carried out of the concert area, and you cut a hole in the barrier so you could hear, are you doing anything wrong? I mean, they should have built a sturdier barrier.

These aren't signals that your TV just displays with no intervention, it requires an effort on the part of the user to bypass the protections that are in place.

Edit: and laws against intercepting cell phone calls and hijacking wireless Internet are meant to protect YOU, not your phone company or router manufacturer. Your phone company doesn't care if someone intercepts your phone calls.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: KK
Yes you should be able to. If the signals aren't secure enough to prevent others from tinkering with then the companies need to work harder to ensure that their signals are secure. Since you guys are using examples, what about outdoor concerts. People have to pay to get inside to listen to a band, but what about the folks outside the fence. since sound travels via wavelengths just like cell, wifi, and satelite, shouldn't these people pay too.

At least make it a valid analogy - if they put up a sound barrier to prevent the noise from being carried out of the concert area, and you cut a hole in the barrier so you could hear, are you doing anything wrong? I mean, they should have built a sturdier barrier.

These aren't signals that your TV just displays with no intervention, it requires an effort on the part of the user to bypass the protections that are in place.

Okay using your analogy, of the barrier, that would be fine. You cut a hole you'd be guilty. But what dtv needs to do then is put a barrier on their signal coming into my yard. Are they doing that, no. Did I ask for their signals to be coming into my yard, no? Therefore it's fair game. You can try that right of way argument, but there are laws I'm almost positive for tampering with utilities on right of way.

You don't think that a tv doesn't have to have some type of tuner to pick ota tv signals? That's basically a dumbed down version of the dtv reciever.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
How much freakin' equipment did he have? A $25K fine seems kinda excessive unless he was distributing the equipment. I guess they are just trying to make a example of him, though.

The feds are still trying to punish him for the big case that had their asses handed to them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: KK
Therefore it's fair game. You can try that right of way argument, but there are laws I'm almost positive for tampering with utilities on right of way.

And clearly there are laws against this as well. And why shouldn't there be?