NYT: Trump Jr. met with Gulf emissary offering help to win election

[jana519]

Erik Prince, the private security contractor and the former head of Blackwater, arranged the meeting, which took place on Aug. 3, 2016. The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president. The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign; by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html

Turns out this traitor is selling our American republic to foreigners. It's illegal for foreign governments or individuals to be involved in American elections. Mueller indictments for Trump's family are coming.

George Nader is a convicted pedophile, in case you were wondering: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-wi...ler-is-a-convicted-pedophile-2018-3?r=UK&IR=T

 

[TheVrolok]

More nothing burgers coming right up.

 

[vi edit]

This one really feels big. Like really really big.

Even more than the Russian dirt on Hillary one in June 2016.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So weird that the pedophile pizza parlor featuring Bill & Hillary may have come from an actual pedophile.

I'll say it before anyone else......

hey its opposition research everyone does it, Hillary hired a foreign guy.

 

[Ken g6]

So weird that the pedophile pizza parlor featuring Bill & Hillary may have come from an actual pedophile.

I've heard that when writing fiction you should "write what you know".

 

[Jhhnn]

So weird that the pedophile pizza parlor featuring Bill & Hillary may have come from an actual pedophile.

I'll say it before anyone else......

hey its opposition research everyone does it, Hillary hired a foreign guy.

But not a foreign govt. The difference is obvious. It wasn't pay to play, either.

 

[UberNeuman]

But what about the "context"?

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[jana519]

This one really feels big. Like really really big.

Even more than the Russian dirt on Hillary one in June 2016.

Nader is cooperating with Mueller, he was in the room, so Mueller now has a witness. Jr can't just claim he "doesn't recall" the details of the meeting because Mueller knows what happened there.

Jr is going down for this. I'm actually concerned Trump might try to fire Mueller now and I haven't been one to think that before.

 

[UNCjigga]

You know, after this story, the thing I'm looking forward to the most right now, are the inevitable talking points that the alt right will be forced to invent in order to defend the same people they called "sand ni**ers" yesterday.

 

[cytg111]

That was one extensive article.
I can only surmise that all these sources are either from muellers team or someone tailing muellers team.. there is alot of specific information inthere and a very particular mentioning of how many individual sources that back those claims up.
Is Mueller baiting Trump to fire him?

 

[soundforbjt]

Erik Prince, Isn't he Betsy Devos's brother?

 

[JSt0rm]

time to teach these people about American exceptionalism...

 

[JSt0rm]

the company involved..

http://psy-group.com

lol we let things like this exist...

 

[cytg111]

Another thing just hit me... How much you wanna bet that Rudi and Co is in the dark on this angle? To watch Giulianis face when he flipped open that morning newspaper.. Has he been heard from since or is he still coughing toast up?

 

[Jaskalas]

But not a foreign govt. The difference is obvious. It wasn't pay to play, either.

Can someone point out the pay to play from the NYT article?

George Nader appears to have paid a couple million for what appears to be for helping Trump's campaign. Given that he is not a minion of Trump, does the buck stop with Mr. Nader on this story? I suppose that depends on what he says or can offer, if anything.

But as it stands, there is no claim pay to play from that article.

 

[Jhhnn]

Can someone point out the pay to play from the NYT article?

George Nader appears to have paid a couple million for what appears to be for helping Trump's campaign. Given that he is not a minion of Trump, does the buck stop with Mr. Nader on this story? I suppose that depends on what he says or can offer, if anything.

But as it stands, there is no claim pay to play from that article.

I pointed out that there is no way that the Steele dossier was pay to play. He got paid, not vice-versa. Cambridge Analytica got paid the same way.

OTOH, foreigners offering to spend millions to support a political candidate isn't done from the goodness of their hearts. WTF do you think enormously expensive third party political campaigns are designed to achieve if not influence?

The law allows that for American citizens but not for foreigners. If the Trump campaign respected that then they wouldn't even have met with anybody offering such a thing. They'd avoid it like the plague. Whether it actually occurred or not they open themselves to investigation by even being there, like the meeting in Trump Tower.

Too easy, right?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The law allows that for American citizens but not for foreigners. If the Trump campaign respected that then they wouldn't even have met with anybody offering such a thing. They'd avoid it like the plague. Whether it actually occurred or not they open themselves to investigation by even being there, like the meeting in Trump Tower.

Too easy, right?

Regarding this last point, any professionally run campaign D or R or even some of the 3rd parties would not only decline the meeting, they’d inform the FBI about it too.
One theory on the meeting is the Russians didn’t expect a yes answer. They were probing to see how much Trump wanted to win and how competent his organization was.

 

[Bitek]

Another thing just hit me... How much you wanna bet that Rudi and Co is in the dark on this angle? To watch Giulianis face when he flipped open that morning newspaper.. Has he been heard from since or is he still coughing toast up?

A lot of this had been out there for a while.

The Seychelles meeting Prince had.
The out of nowhere diplomatic and economic embargo of Qatar (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-sabotages-his-new-middle-east-alliance)
.. Then Qatar coming around and buying multi-mil Trump tower condos and other shady deals to get them back on the good side.. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/04/trump-qatar-buys-apartment-new-york-tower)

Then Qatar bails out Kushner on his 666 5th Ave debt ridden albatross that's threatening bankruptcy.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/kushner-cos-brookfield-qatar

Meanwhile you've got Cohen meeting with the Qataris days before FBI raid. I'm sure it's about gardening tips.

We could keep going, but it's outright corruption and pay to play.

But yeah, but conservatives got their tax cut and stolen SC seat, so it's all good. Nothing to see.

 

[cytg111]

A lot of this had been out there for a while.

The Seychelles meeting Prince had.
The out of nowhere diplomatic and economic embargo of Qatar (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-sabotages-his-new-middle-east-alliance)
.. Then Qatar coming around and buying multi-mil Trump tower condos and other shady deals to get them back on the good side.. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/04/trump-qatar-buys-apartment-new-york-tower)

Then Qatar bails out Kushner on his 666 5th Ave debt ridden albatross that's threatening bankruptcy.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/kushner-cos-brookfield-qatar

Meanwhile you've got Cohen meeting with the Qataris days before FBI raid. I'm sure it's about gardening tips.

We could keep going, but it's outside outright corruption and pay to play.

But yeah, but conservatives got their tax cut and stolen SC seat, so it's all good. Nothing to see.

Yea but *another* meeting on cheating in Trump Tower where Jr says "Yea, lets have to goods" .. I dont recall hearing about this one .. but to be fair there have been soooo much.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Is it me or is the Trump crazy train adding more cars every day?

 

[jana519]

Erik Prince, Isn't he Betsy Devos's brother?

Yeah, he's the guy who ran Blackwater whose mercenaries killed 17 Iraqi civilians and wounded 20 in 2007 while escorting a US embassy convoy. He had to flee the US and now he lives in the UAE where he does the bidding of Arab oil princes. He's a complete asshat.

This article, along with the NYT piece about Trump Jr being in cahoots with Saudi Arabia and UAE, tells you all you need to know about the real reason Trump withdrew from the Iran deal: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/world/middleeast/15prince.html

 

[Bitek]

Yea but *another* meeting on cheating in Trump Tower where Jr says "Yea, lets have to goods" .. I dont recall hearing about this one .. but to be fair there have been soooo much.

I'd call it the latest episode in "America for sale" brought to you by the Trump admin

 

[zinfamous]

Regarding this last point, any professionally run campaign D or R or even some of the 3rd parties would not only decline the meeting, they’d inform the FBI about it too.
One theory on the meeting is the Russians didn’t expect a yes answer. They were probing to see how much Trump wanted to win and how competent his organization was.

McCain did this, Hillary did this, Obama did this in the last several elections, when foreign actors offered up information during their campaigns. That is what you are required to do.

One wonders why we never talk about connections with foreign actors when it comes to those Americans. Why do we constantly talk about this, though, regarding the Trump criminal family, whose wealth has been wholly dependent on foreign investors, often of dubious intent, for the last several decades? Why are they being investigated for this and why have they been under investigation, or tangential actors in investigations directed at their contacts for years? Why is this?

Is it because there is some unfair witch hunt, or is it because they are actually criminals?

 

[fskimospy]

No joke, Trump Jr.’s enthusiastic acceptance of illegal foreign intervention in the campaign is now being spun by Trump people as him just ranting people to always leave a meeting happy.

That’s right, he was just entering into a criminal conspiracy because otherwise things would be awkward.

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-...witter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

 

[hal2kilo]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html

Turns out this traitor is selling our American republic to foreigners. It's illegal for foreign governments or individuals to be involved in American elections. Mueller indictments for Trump's family are coming.

George Nader is a convicted pedophile, in case you were wondering: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-wi...ler-is-a-convicted-pedophile-2018-3?r=UK&IR=T

If the Russia thing won't take Trump out, this should work out to be another angle to clean our country of this stain.