thraashman
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- Apr 10, 2000
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Well the problem with that Lenin quote Butterbean, is that by that logic you can never claim anything that someone else does wrong. All McCain has done since the beginning is negative campaign. I found a post from months ago in the primaries where I was commenting on the pathetic campaign tactics of Guiliani, and I also commented on McCain's incredibly negative campaign in that. So before it was just McCain vs Obama I noticed the constant negativity coming from McCain. This is who McCain is now, he's nothing but negativity bordering on inhumanity.
As far as Obama's pastor, first you may have noticed that Obama has rejected his pastor for his comments. Second if you actually pay attention his pastor has made statements that were pro his race, but not anti others. All he's ever really done is point out how America has historically mistreated non-white races in this country, and it's unfortunately and undeniably true.
I have to laugh.
In other words, they have hit the weak spot and Obama's camp knows it. In particular concentrating on Ayers revealed that the baggage Obama has is detrimental to his campaign.
So of course anything they can portray as having racial overtones they will, they will find every in the bag Obama supporter, label them a language/nuance expert and decry racism.
Here is more fun, if Obama gets elected EXPECT EVERY NEGATIVE COMMENT ON HIM TO BE LABLED RACIST. Not one single white person of the opposing party will be able to make any comment without being labeled a bigot.
What they are trying to do is guilt the other side to death so they won't reveal subjects the Obama camp has no valid answer for. I am still waiting for them to toss out Nazi...
In other words, they have hit the weak spot and Obama's camp knows it. In particular concentrating on Ayers revealed that the baggage Obama has is detrimental to his campaign.
So of course anything they can portray as having racial overtones they will, they will find every in the bag Obama supporter, label them a language/nuance expert and decry racism.
Here is more fun, if Obama gets elected EXPECT EVERY NEGATIVE COMMENT ON HIM TO BE LABLED RACIST. Not one single white person of the opposing party will be able to make any comment without being labeled a bigot.
What they are trying to do is guilt the other side to death so they won't reveal subjects the Obama camp has no valid answer for. I am still waiting for them to toss out Nazi...
Fern
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- Sep 30, 2003
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Well, since the OP's thread title is from the article itself I can't complain about it.
But the arthor of the article is an idiot. If he's gonna make that claim (racism & xenophobia) at the outset of his article he should use the body of article to make the case for that claim. But he doesn't.
Nothing in his article supports that claim. Nothing whatsoever.
Fern
Not buying it even a little. Most of the people voting for McCain know hes too soft - he's more likely to compliment Obama than to call him on his Marxism, radicalism etc. McCain was also the mush head that worked with Kennedy on illegal immigration and defied most of the public sentiment/ Calling McCain a zenophobe is stupid.
If McCain was hard on Obama he would crush the little faker instead of falling back every time he starts to go up in polls. its like he wants to lose.
Your Marxist indoctrination is also showing when you try yo paint America
as historically unfair to non whites. We have millions of Mexicans etc who broke in with no real difficulties since the Dens and Reps both sold out to them. Blacks in America do better here than blacks in Africa where they are still slaves in places like Sudan. Would China, Russia etc treat 25 million blacks better? Hardly. Besides it was libs who ruined black family and sent illegitimacy sky high.
The Muslims were slave dealers and first official slave owner in North America (not America itself since this was before founding) was a black man named Anthony Johnson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...on_(American_Colonial)
History can be complicated and the cultural Marxists have used media and teaching to distort it and get impressionable kids to hate own country and see world upside down
You fail so far
not to mention advertising revenues on the verge of a recession.
btw do normal people actually use scamslist?
m1ldslide1
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You're right - the black family was much better under the ideologies of McCain associates. Namely Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd, who realized that the best place for a black family was on the plantation. Since that utopian ideal had been destroyed by the liberal military of the US government practicing marxist principles, the next best thing for the black family would be to ride in the back of the bus and have their own drinking fountains and schools. Well, the liberal media and bleeding heart activist judges messed that all up.
By the way, McCain's ties to the KKK are equally as substantive as Obama's to the weather underground. Which terrorist organization is worse Butterbean? The one bombing to protest the vietnam war, or the one bombing to protest blacks / jews / catholics being part of mainstream society? Would you actually consider them equal? If so, then how can you possibly criticize Obama while granting McCain a free pass on this issue?
This is Butt_bean spewing bare assed bullshit with nothing to say and far too many words to say it.
The Dali Bama -- OOO-o-o-o-oh... Deep dread that Obama could somehow be associated with the Dali Lama. Actually, if it weren't for Butt_bean's lame attempt it an omenous pun on the name, the association with a Nobel Peace lauriet would be a compliment. :thumbsup:
Stalinist tactics -- OOO-o-o-o-oh... Deep fear and loathing for this ancient relic of a word intended to raise fear... a few generations ago. :roll:
Butt_bean -- You're a lying, brainless cartoon show. :laugh:
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It's a staff editorial, thus it can technically be attributed to the editorial board of the NYT.
All one needs is a set of ears to see the blatant race-baiting and xenophobia in McCain's campaign.
For the second time in three days, we have an introductory speaker at a McCain/Palin rally use Obama's middle name to incite racism and xenophobia in the crowd.
If McCain really condemned these remarks, why do they continually occur? If they can't govern their own campaign rallies, how can they govern the country?
Gallup's national tracker from today has Obama up by 11. America is ready to send these shit stain politicians back home with a box of Kleenex.
thraashman
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I think I'm gonna go ahead and call you on your being a total jackass right here. You've stepped so far into the bounds of dickhole that I doubt I could make you hear me with a megaphone. So instead I'm just gonna go with the Bill O'reilly style berating that a thickheaded, fascism loving twit like you seems to work best with. First, citing illegal immigration and saying that failing to protect our borders is that same as treating minorities as good as whites is about the biggest stretch I've heard since the last time McCain ran one of his many bullshit campaign ads. Second, trying to point out that someone else is stabbing someone while you only punched them in the face is not a valid point to prove your innocence. Doing something bad and then saying it should be disregarded because others do something worse is what the villians of history have done. You're proving to me that you and people who think like you are horrible, disgusting, deplorable people.
The funny thing is if you pay attention, the parts of the world that breed terrorism and hate the worst, are the parts of the world that are conservative. The entire middle east is one big ultra conservative stirring pot and it breeds the worst America hating terrorists in the world. So attack liberals all you want, we all can see what happens when the world becomes too conservative. It's called McCarthyism, witch trials, inquisition, nazi party. You're on the side of the bad guys, which makes you quite simply a bad person.
OIC, you mean like Cindy McCain accusing the Obama campaign of dirty tactics?
Or McCain accusing Obama of not understanding the economic problem?
It's all clear to me now...
By the way, it's good to have such an ardent Lenin follower as yourself on the board for educational purposes...
Sorry, I don't blame McCain for racists being racist. The Republicans (not their voters) have wisely avoided the race issue.
Don't hold back, thraashman, tell us really how you feel
:laugh:
(not that there is substantial disagreement with your post)
I think we need to examine Palin's words, and their context-
Hold it right there. Obama is very much a middle class success story, the epitomy of the American Dream. He was raised by a single mother with help from her parents, excelled academically, paid his own way through Harvard and Harvard Law school, headed the Law review, began his career basically in a public service capacity, went on to become a successful author, attorney and politician.
What's different about him, other than the fact he's extraordinarily successful? What would lead anybody to claim that he looks at the world any differently than any other successful self-made person? What makes him so obviously "different" from Palin's audience?
There's really only one thing, and it's so obvious that she never mentions it. She doesn't have to- her audience knows exactly what she's talking about. It's the same as Agnew's "Silent Majority", the same thing Reagan was talking about when he kicked off his presidential bid with a pitch to "States Rights" in Philadelphia, Miss. It's the same thing the creators of the Willie Horton Ad were talking about, too.
It plays consciously with some, and more dangerously, subconsciously with others who don't even realize they're being manipulated on a primal level.
It's all quite intentional, as is the attribution of palsiness with "terrorists"- it calls forth the listeners' own hidden fears and imagination to fill in the blanks.
It is precisely what the article linked in the OP claims it to be.
Here it is, a little more directly. the man's delivery isn't the best, but his words are quite eloquent, and straight to the point-
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...0/confronting-rac.html
Hold it right there. Obama is very much a middle class success story, the epitomy of the American Dream. He was raised by a single mother with help from her parents, excelled academically, paid his own way through Harvard and Harvard Law school, headed the Law review, began his career basically in a public service capacity, went on to become a successful author, attorney and politician.
What's different about him, other than the fact he's extraordinarily successful? What would lead anybody to claim that he looks at the world any differently than any other successful self-made person? What makes him so obviously "different" from Palin's audience?
There's really only one thing, and it's so obvious that she never mentions it. She doesn't have to- her audience knows exactly what she's talking about. It's the same as Agnew's "Silent Majority", the same thing Reagan was talking about when he kicked off his presidential bid with a pitch to "States Rights" in Philadelphia, Miss. It's the same thing the creators of the Willie Horton Ad were talking about, too.
It plays consciously with some, and more dangerously, subconsciously with others who don't even realize they're being manipulated on a primal level.
It's all quite intentional, as is the attribution of palsiness with "terrorists"- it calls forth the listeners' own hidden fears and imagination to fill in the blanks.
It is precisely what the article linked in the OP claims it to be.
Here it is, a little more directly. the man's delivery isn't the best, but his words are quite eloquent, and straight to the point-
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...0/confronting-rac.html
sigh. If nothing else, your post reveals that "conservatives" still excel at the art of being deliberately obtuse...
Wait a second, he is different, and he does look at the world differently than many, particularly Palin. Palin should in fact speak for herself, and not impute her own narrow vision to all of America -- that's her fault, not the recognition of a difference in Obama.
The difference in vision and scope of Obama is what raises him from the lame chest-thumping empty sloganism and isolationism that comes from Palin and McCain and doesn't address the realities of the current world, much less the strivings everywhere to the vision of a better world. Many Americans feel this too, and Palin does them a great disservice when she implies that regressive conservatism is the best that they should aspire to.
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