[NYT] Jeb Bush Listed Himself as 'Hispanic' on Voter Form

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boomerang

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I sometimes try to imagine a day in this country when we aren't required to give out our race, ethnicity or country of origin on registration forms, census forms and the like.

Do you think we'll ever get past all that or are we destined to always be members of a certain tribe?
 

DrPizza

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Much, much more importantly, who thinks that race should be completely eliminated from voter registration forms? There's no reason to care, except if you're in charge and you want to gerrymander your districts because you realize that on certain issues, a block of ethnic voters votes in one direction or another.


If it were done as a PR move, it's stupid for two reasons:
1. Hispanics aren't stupid enough to fall for it as a PR stunt.
2. A lot of the Republican base are racists. "What? He's Hispanic? I'd never vote for no <fill in word here>."
Ironically, he'd probably lose more votes than he'd gain.
 

Moonbeam

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Imagine the angst among the base if Bush had accidently checked Black!!

I have no sympathy for this "accident" considering the amount of time Republicans tried to claim Obama was born in Kenya

This is h0ow they create what they fear. An eye for an eye and everybody goes blind. It is always the job of the more conscious to carry the burden of fools. Rising above things takes energy and effort. To emulate the filthy and disgusting behavior of conservatives makes you just like them. That is why it's important to transcend our own need to express our own filthy behavior via excuses that the other does it by forgiving it in ourselves. We are always the source of that filthy behavior. It's the product of conditioning as children and fear. The CBD is only a straightjacket in which emotions of self hate are repressed and expressed as justifiable violence by projecting ourselves onto others.
 

fskimospy

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Much, much more importantly, who thinks that race should be completely eliminated from voter registration forms? There's no reason to care, except if you're in charge and you want to gerrymander your districts because you realize that on certain issues, a block of ethnic voters votes in one direction or another.

There are ample reasons to care. It is used as evidence for VRA violations, for one. Considering the legions of successful cases the government has litigated against municipalities implementing racist election practices that seems like a pretty good reason, no?
 

kage69

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It's kind of embarrassing that he did that, but I don't really care.


Same here pretty much, with the caveat that it's pretty funny to hear silence and crickets coming from the mental midgets who call Elizabeth Warren "Fauxohontas".

Guess it doesn't count if you're running for office?
 

Moonbeam

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Much, much more importantly, who thinks that race should be completely eliminated from voter registration forms? There's no reason to care, except if you're in charge and you want to gerrymander your districts because you realize that on certain issues, a block of ethnic voters votes in one direction or another.


If it were done as a PR move, it's stupid for two reasons:
1. Hispanics aren't stupid enough to fall for it as a PR stunt.
2. A lot of the Republican base are racists. "What? He's Hispanic? I'd never vote for no <fill in word here>."
Ironically, he'd probably lose more votes than he'd gain.

Virtue is its only lonely reward and its value as such has been forgotten. Competition is hate and winning is everything. One must win in order to feel one isn't a nobody when self hate is hidden within.
 

fskimospy

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If it were done as a PR move, it's stupid for two reasons:
1. Hispanics aren't stupid enough to fall for it as a PR stunt.
2. A lot of the Republican base are racists. "What? He's Hispanic? I'd never vote for no <fill in word here>."
Ironically, he'd probably lose more votes than he'd gain.

I agree that it would make little sense for him to do as an attempt to get votes. Hispanic people don't vote for someone based on what their voter registration says. The most likely answer by far is that it was a mistake. Even if it wasn't, who cares?

That being said, I'm 100% in favor of demographic data on voter registration. It helps protect the integrity of the process.
 
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Out of all the reasons to not want to vote for Jeb Bush, this is right up there with his choice of toothpaste.
 

Moonbeam

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Same here pretty much, with the caveat that it's pretty funny to hear silence and crickets coming from the mental midgets who call Elizabeth Warren "Fauxohontas".

Guess it doesn't count if you're running for office?

The CBD manifests as rationalization. Rationalization is just another word for hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the denial of reality and conservatives are the party of bubble.
 

her209

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I sometimes try to imagine a day in this country when we aren't required to give out our race, ethnicity or country of origin on registration forms, census forms and the like.

Do you think we'll ever get past all that or are we destined to always be members of a certain tribe?

The same day in this country when police don't include it in their description of a wanted suspect.
 

Moonbeam

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I agree that it would make little sense for him to do as an attempt to get votes. Hispanic people don't vote for someone based on what their voter registration says. The most likely answer by far is that it was a mistake. Even if it wasn't, who cares?

That being said, I'm 100% in favor of demographic data on voter registration. It helps protect the integrity of the process.

It used to be that there was safety in the vote of the average person because it used to be that people thought independently, but today everybody has been brainwashed and the voters have been well trained. Today elections go to the party who is most adapt at psychological manipulation and nothing manipulates like the medulla oblongata. Train that and you will win.
 

norseamd

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The same day in this country when police don't include it in their description of a wanted suspect.

So are we going to make it a crime to distinguish the color of clothing on the subjects now? Just telling you they give those characteristics for obvious reasons because they need to.
 

fskimospy

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It used to be that there was safety in the vote of the average person because it used to be that people thought independently, but today everybody has been brainwashed and the voters have been well trained. Today elections go to the party who is most adapt at psychological manipulation and nothing manipulates like the medulla oblongata. Train that and you will win.

I think the parties are the result of the voters, not the other way around. We have brainwashed ourselves.
 

rudeguy

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Since you have been selectively deaf for the last 6 years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

BTW - Desperation in dictionary is going back to 1877 as an example attempting to prove a non-existent point

Wait...what? That's your whole case? Some guy saying that voter registration would help a candidate?

Maybe he was right? Maybe that would have prevented Donald Duck and all the dead people from voting for Obama?

Either way, your whole argument is wrong. Please tell me how a voter ID system would prevent minorities from voting.

And oh yea...just because something happened a long time ago doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Democrats are the only part who have actively sought to prevent minorities from voting. You guys wear that badge of honor, not us.
 

Rakehellion

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Much, much more importantly, who thinks that race should be completely eliminated from voter registration forms? There's no reason to care, except if you're in charge and you want to gerrymander your districts because you realize that on certain issues, a block of ethnic voters votes in one direction or another.


If it were done as a PR move, it's stupid for two reasons:
1. Hispanics aren't stupid enough to fall for it as a PR stunt.
2. A lot of the Republican base are racists. "What? He's Hispanic? I'd never vote for no <fill in word here>."
Ironically, he'd probably lose more votes than he'd gain.

It was obviously an "accident" because he's down with the esses so he feels like he's one of them. Everyone knows he's white, but he's trying to give the impression that he's so ingrained in their culture that checking that box was second nature.