NYPD cop beats kid after arrest

[JEDIYoda]

finally say the video ( the link was dead earlier ). Sorry but that is not a beating. Should not have been resisting.

If he is 12 years old, I'm a Siamese twin to a mongolian jugfucker.

That's nice then you saw an undercover Police officer run up and assault that child.....and you wonder why Cops are being shot right and left....

 

[pcgeek11]

That's nice then you saw an undercover Police officer run up and assault that child.....and you wonder why Cops are being shot right and left....

Oh please! That innocent little baby.

 

[ivwshane]

Oh please! That innocent little baby.

Apparently he was innocent as the charges were dropped before the video came out and the victim even said those weren't the guys that hit him.

I watched the video again, can you point out when the resisting occurred?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AnoKUW4nFXc

Can you explain why the officer was suspended if he didn't do anything wrong?

 

[Moonbeam]

What led to the cuffing is irrelevant to the punching of a subdued, cuffed suspect.

No it's not. It's irrelevant to justifying it, but it might explain everything.

 

[her209]

I wasn't making a comparison. I was stating a fact that three little punches to the upper thigh is Not A Beating.

He shouldn't be resisting arrest.

Throw the same "three little punches to the upper thigh" of a police officer and see what happens to you. At the very least, you get charged with battery.

 

[TreVader]

Guys, he feared for his life! Kid is lucky he didn't gun him down on the spot.


Another cop who in literally any other job would be fired and charged on the spot. I'm starting to think the PD is just a repository for all the social rejects and retards who couldn't make it full time military or FBI. They just look so stupid!

 

[ivwshane]

Guys, he feared for his life! Kid is lucky he didn't gun him down on the spot.


Another cop who in literally any other job would be fired and charged on the spot. I'm starting to think the PD is just a repository for all the social rejects and retards who couldn't make it full time military or FBI. They just look so stupid!

Actually I think it's the opposite. I think a lot of veterans are looking to become police officers.

However, while that may seem like a good, natural fit, I think it's horrible job for veterans to transition to. For one, soldiers are put in a kill or be killed situation where instinct and fast reactions are required for survival and that's not what's needed for an average cop in your average city.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I wasn't making a comparison. I was stating a fact that three little punches to the upper thigh is Not A Beating.

He shouldn't be resisting arrest.

Hitting him three times is assault and a crime....do you deny that?

If I hit you three times, do I get arrested? Cops aren't allowed to break the law in theory, although in reality we have seen they can shoot and choke people to death while captured on video and get off without any issues.

That in part is thanks to people like you that wave off illegal activity with comments like "he resisted arrest" or "he deserved it".

 

[rommelrommel]

Hitting him three times is assault and a crime....do you deny that?

If I hit you three times, do I get arrested? Cops aren't allowed to break the law in theory, although in reality we have seen they can shoot and choke people to death while captured on video and get off without any issues.

That in part is thanks to people like you that wave off illegal activity with comments like "he resisted arrest" or "he deserved it".

It's not an assault as police are justified in using reasonable force to effect an arrest and the courts have repeatedly ruled that strikes such as the one that you saw are fine in the context of getting a resisting subject to comply.

If you have beef with that you have beef with the courts too.

 

[ivwshane]

It's not an assault as police are justified in using reasonable force to effect an arrest and the courts have repeatedly ruled that strikes such as the one that you saw are fine in the context of getting a resisting subject to comply.

If you have beef with that you have beef with the courts too.

Where in the video was he not complying?

 

[Subyman]

Where in the video was he not complying?

Where it is taking 3+ cops to get hand cuffs on him?

 

[ivwshane]

Where it is taking 3+ cops to get hand cuffs on him?

Oh, I see your take on resisting arrest is when multiple cops hold down a person whether they needed to or not.


I guess you've set the bar pretty low.

http://www.attorneys.com/criminal-defense/possible-defenses-against-resisting-arrest-charges/

Resisting arrest is usually defined as intentionally preventing a police officer from lawfully arresting or handcuffing you or taking you to jail. Here are some things that can be considered resisting arrest:

Physical acts, such as running away, hiding, or struggling with the officer
Giving false identification, either verbally or by presenting a fake ID
Trying to help another person avoid arrest
Threatening the officer
Being slow to comply with an order or swearing at an officer is not, by itself, usually enough to warrant resisting arrest charges. Neither is questioning an officer's actions or authority before ultimately complying with requests.

 

[Subyman]

Oh, I see your take on resisting arrest is when multiple cops hold down a person whether they needed to or not.


I guess you've set the bar pretty low.

http://www.attorneys.com/criminal-defense/possible-defenses-against-resisting-arrest-charges/

So the cops handcuffed him and are all leaning on him just for fun? The video doesn't show the beginning anyhow.

 

[ivwshane]

So the cops handcuffed him and are all leaning on him just for fun? The video doesn't show the beginning anyhow.

No the video doesn't show the beginning which is why I find the claim that he was resisting to be suspect. The video also doesn't show him struggling. You can watch his legs, which would be the source of power if someone's arms and hands are being held. His legs barely move except when he's being pushed over and off balance.

So I'll ask again, where in the video is he resisting? Was the other suspect resisting? Why were all charges dropped if he is resisting?

 

[theeedude]

Haven't you heard, you are supposed to forgive NYPD for everything they do, because those two cops died for their sins.

 

[rommelrommel]

If you want to interpret it taking 3 cops to get his arms in a position to cuff them as "not resisting" no amount of words is going to help.

Slow to comply means slow to put your hands up, turn around, etc. Not locking your arms when they're trying to cuff you. And even if it doesn't warrant a conviction it could still be resisting enough to have more force used against you than if you didn't resist.

 

[railer]

If you want to interpret it taking 3 cops to get his arms in a position to cuff them as "not resisting" no amount of words is going to help.

Slow to comply means slow to put your hands up, turn around, etc. Not locking your arms when they're trying to cuff you. And even if it doesn't warrant a conviction it could still be resisting enough to have more force used against you than if you didn't resist.

I think they can't see the video clearly through their own tears and hysterical sobbing. If I did exactly what the resisting man in the video did, I would expect to get punched, tazed, etc. And I would deserve it. And I wouldn't cry about it on the internet like an 8 year old girl afterwards. But that's just me.

 

[Zaap]

*yawn* All the cop-whining is a bit played out already.

Isn't it time to get back to hating on those evil robots that are stealing all the jerbs? Much more interesting irrational fear topic.

 

[ivwshane]

If you want to interpret it taking 3 cops to get his arms in a position to cuff them as "not resisting" no amount of words is going to help.

Slow to comply means slow to put your hands up, turn around, etc. Not locking your arms when they're trying to cuff you. And even if it doesn't warrant a conviction it could still be resisting enough to have more force used against you than if you didn't resist.

So in other words, you can't point out where he was resisting but your gut tells you he was.

Your post would have been just as effective had you just stated you're a cop apologist

 

[rommelrommel]

No, I see 3 cops doing exactly what I have done and would do again with a guy refusing to put his arms in position to be cuffed. Personally I would not be the 4th man in to deliver those strikes, I would trust the guy doing the cuffing up until the point that he asked for help or was obviously failing to get the cuffs on, but what the plainclothes officer did was not tactically wrong or excessive force.

I'm not able to 100% dismiss the "he wasn't resisting but the cops decided to make it look like he was so the plainclothes cop had an excuse to "lay a beating" on him with 3 strikes to the lower body theory after watching a YouTube video. Sure, it's possible. The more likely explanation for the video I saw is that he was resisting the cuffing.

 

[ivwshane]

His hands were behind his back they weren't in any other position. If you can't point out where in the video he was resisting arrest then you can't claim he was.

For the Eric garner arrest one can (and people have) made the argument that he was resisting arrest and the video shows he was indeed resisting arrest. This video doesn't show that.

 

[Subyman]

His hands were behind his back they weren't in any other position. If you can't point out where in the video he was resisting arrest then you can't claim he was.

For the Eric garner arrest one can (and people have) made the argument that he was resisting arrest and the video shows he was indeed resisting arrest. This video doesn't show that.

Like I said, so there are three cops surrounding him and pressing him against the car just for jollies? You don't get three cops surrounding you and holding you down if you held out your arms and let them cuff you when ordered. The footage was shot by a frantic lady yelling at the police, so I wonder why the beginning of the footage was cut out? Maybe she didn't want us seeing the struggle?

I think the guy used inappropriate force, but people need to learn not to mess about with the police.

 

[rommelrommel]

If the cops have to forceably hold your arms behind your back it's resisting. Whether you're succeeding in resisting or not is not the test for resisting.

 

[TreVader]

The cop whining isn't even close to played out. This is just the beginning. The ubiquitous cellphone camera has given us a window into what terrible people use the PD as a means to carry out their sadistic and criminal tendencies.

And not even half of Americans even have smartphones! Probably less that 1/4th in low income high crime areas where cops are most likely to abuse people. Imagine if everyone had one!

 

[railer]

The cop whining isn't even close to played out. This is just the beginning. The ubiquitous cellphone camera has given us a window into what terrible people use the PD as a means to carry out their sadistic and criminal tendencies.

And not even half of Americans even have smartphones! Probably less that 1/4th in low income high crime areas where cops are most likely to abuse people. Imagine if everyone had one!

I bet that demographic (and by demographic I mean young, not necessarily black) has nearly 100% smartphone penetration, regardless of income level. So keep on whining and crying, and the rest of the grown ups will realize and understand the reasons and rationale for what the police are actually doing. In this particular video...nothing happened. Keep squealing about it as if it were an actual problem tho.