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NYPD and "Testilying"

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http://www.wnyc.org/story/hard-truth-about-cops-who-lie/#commentlist

Article takes an in-depth look at cops lying, and how many aren't being prosecuted or fired (no surprise there).

Last year, New York City’s Civilian Complaint Review Board flagged as many officers for making false statements as it had in the previous four years combined. And the CCRB reports that it’s on pace to have more such cases this year.
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So is lying by cops on the rise? Or is it just with more video footage, we have proof that they are lying? I think I will go with the latter....they have been lying all along, just since the victims are mainly poor, a minority, or have a criminal record they were ignored.

A review of more than a thousand criminal and civil court cases, and interviews with dozens of attorneys, turned up more than 120 officers with at least one documented credibility issue over the past 10 years. These are mostly officers whose testimony a state or federal judge called unbelievable. Some have apparent fabrications exposed in lawsuits or other records. It’s an incomplete list because state law makes police disciplinary records confidential, and state criminal cases are sealed if the case is dismissed even when it's due to police misconduct.
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Many records aren't accessible to even check, but they found 120 officers with the limited data. How many more are out there?

Most of these officers stayed on the force. Records show at least 54 went on to make more than 2,700 arrests after the date their word was challenged.
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Wonder how many of those 2,700 arrests were fraudulent?

Read some of the examples....talk about egregious lying. Unreal examples. And these are just the ones we know about. How many people have been arrested because of planted guns or drugs by cops?
 
To those who would respond that these officers are a small minority of police, and that most police are good, I ask you this: Why weren't they prosecuted and/or fired? Why did the "good cops" not gang up against them Serpico style? Why is there seemingly no man of honor type cop, no cop brave enough, no cop willing to say "no more"? Isn't that what cops are sold to us as being? Aren't they consistently held up as heroes who will fight for what is right?

Why is it OK for cops to lie under oath?
 
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If an officer is found lying under oath, I feel that's sufficient evidence to reexamine any case where the main evidence against someone now in jail was that officer's testimony. And, once an officer is found to be lying under oath, they are no longer capable of performing that incredibly important function of their job - send them to the unemployment line. Do not pass go, do not collect pension.
 
I'd like to see laws against private recordings of public officers challenged and taken to the Supreme Court. Cops have no duty to protect us, and in the near future I hope personal recording devices will hopefully be ubiquitous when providing witness testimony, so they are already increasingly useless as witnesses even neglecting the fact that many are corrupt and unreliable.
 
DrPizza said:
If an officer is found lying under oath, I feel that's sufficient evidence to reexamine any case where the main evidence against someone now in jail was that officer's testimony. And, once an officer is found to be lying under oath, they are no longer capable of performing that incredibly important function of their job - send them to the unemployment line. Do not pass go, do not collect pension.
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Fine with that so long as it's a willful fabrication and material, not some technically inaccurate statement. Just keep in mind that some "false statements" may not be provable, like "I felt threatened by the suspect" which is completely based on state of mind rather than the actual threat posed.
 
Fenixgoon said:
cops need to be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law when found to be willfully fabricating evidence. also, there needs to be an independent body to investigate and prosecute these cases, separate from the DOJ. there's a massive conflict of interest there.

perfect example: http://nypost.com/2014/02/21/cops-hit-my-car-then-arrested-me-to-cover-it-up-suit/
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WOW. What a couple of lying sacks of shit. They literally tried to ruin this guy's life in order to avoid responsibility for their own actions. What I don't get is this: what did they stand to lose if they claimed responsibility? A promotion? A raise? It's not like they'd pay for this out of their own pockets. What was so important that they had to frame the guy, lie about the accident, claim the passenger was actually the driver, and charge him with some pretty serious charges? These guys were literally ready and willing and conspiring to ruin a guy's life to cover for their own asses. Where were the "good" cops in this?
 
What world do you live in? Honest Cops? Really!? If you have ever been involved with law enforcement or the criminal justice system, the whole system is designed so that the best liars win. A friend just got divorced and he got 5 of his best friends to LIE about the misgivings of his now ex-wife. He got custody and she is paying child support. The courts are designed to benefit the best liar. Just bring your friends be they cop or not and lie and make sure to keep your story straight. What happens if you get caught? Nothing, there is no prosecution of perjury any longer. Just apologize like any politician and your home free.
 
DrPizza said:
If an officer is found lying under oath, I feel that's sufficient evidence to reexamine any case where the main evidence against someone now in jail was that officer's testimony. And, once an officer is found to be lying under oath, they are no longer capable of performing that incredibly important function of their job - send them to the unemployment line. Do not pass go, do not collect pension.
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It's a real pity that probably 99% of the time, it doesn't happen and the cop continues to lie.
 
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