NYC was attacked on 9-11...why is NY voting Democratic?

SickBeast

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Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.
 
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Because Bush planned 9/11 in the first place, wtf do people think, he payed Osama to attack us so he would have a reason to invade Iraq by telling the american people that Saddam would sell WMD's to Osama and therefore be used to attack us. Remember it wasn't because Saddam himself had WMD's, its because Saddam would sell those WMD's to terrorist factions.


He had a personal agenda to fulfill because Saddam tried to kill his father and hence wanted revenge, he just used the U.S. military to do his bidding and for that makes him a war criminal and should be shot without hesitation.

Hate Dick
Hate Bush

 

tec699

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Because 9/11 took place on Bush's watch and the republicans can't deny that fact. Yadda yadda... Clinton dismantled intelligence and this and that.. yadda yadda...

The fact remainds that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. The guy is a danger to my security. I don't feel safe anymore.

:(
 

PatboyX

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everyones response has confused me.
NY historically votes democrat. most cities do.
and NY, unlike PA, doesnt have an equal amount of rural balance to push it in the other direction.

i mean, thats my understanding of it, please feel free to correct me.

 

syzygy

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guiliani is a republican. he supports bush. bloomberg, our current mayor, is a republican, and
he supports bush as well. our governor is a republican. yes, he too supports bush.

but none of the above are southern republicans. they are all pro-choice, don't pin god on their
lapels, advocate un-republican-like gun control measures, etc, etc., economically, they tow party
line. socially, they dumped liberal love for positive 'attitudes' that produce failed policies. welfare
programs were 're-thought' (read dismantled), school social promotions were nixed, among other
rollbacks.

none of the politicians mentioned above fear for their political lives because of their support for
bush.

republicans have to don the garb of democrats, up to a point, because historically, practically as
a matter of a regional phenotype, this is democratic territory. it took spectacular and consistent
soci0-economic failure to finally see a change in our city's administration. democratic policies
reduced this city to shambles. state too. mario cuomo, with all his golden rhetorical talents,
presided over steady global deterioration until pataki managed to dislodge him.

wary of a liberal who arrives bearing words of eloquence.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Bush might as well join Al Quaeda for all the damage he's done to the US.

as if for you there is any difference between them . . . oh, wait, bush shaves . . .
yeeees, now i see what is keeping you from equating them.
 

TheGameIs21

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Maybe the citizens of NY understand that the presidential race isn't about Terror alone. There are many issues to look at other than the normal 3 (Iraq, Current Economy, Abortion).

I'm a Bush supporter but not because of the normal 3. I'm a Bush supporter because out of 25 issues, I match Bush at 53% and kerry at 13%.
 

Darkhawk28

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New Yorkers are very street-smart. They have BS detectors that can spot said BS about a mile away. They are very aware of news events, are business savvy and are culturally educated. Plus, New Yorkers are very pro-labor. Republicans in New York (NYC especially) are very wary of being too extreme or they'll get the boot.
 

DoubleL

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NY votes Democrat, I don't care if they were nuked the last ones left would pull or punch that Democrat lever or chad, Just look who their senator is
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.


 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.

I'm thinking that New Yorkers should be the people who care most about the "war on terror". They're the ones who were primarily traumatized on 9-11. The fact that they're not voting for Bush is very telling IMO.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.

I'm thinking that New Yorkers should be the people who care most about the "war on terror". They're the ones who were primarily traumatized on 9-11. The fact that they're not voting for Bush is very telling IMO.

Ding! Ding! Ding!! Winnar!!!!! :gift: :beer:
 

Ferocious

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NYC people are smart enough to realize Bush's priority was never the safety of Americans....but rather Saddam and oil.

Today 90% of the people who attempt to enter our country illegally..... succeed.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.

I'm thinking that New Yorkers should be the people who care most about the "war on terror". They're the ones who were primarily traumatized on 9-11. The fact that they're not voting for Bush is very telling IMO.

They are very often voting Democratic ticket in the presidental races.
Does not hurt/help that the Clintons are also in the area.

 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.

I'm thinking that New Yorkers should be the people who care most about the "war on terror". They're the ones who were primarily traumatized on 9-11. The fact that they're not voting for Bush is very telling IMO.


Perhaps they realize that he's failed before, and think he isn't worthy of their trust? Or as others have said, they BS meters actually work.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Shouldn't the people of New York be the ones who feel the most threatened by the terrorists? If so, then why aren't they voting for Bush?

I don't quite understand the school of thought that says Bush would be better to counter terrorism. I would rather have someone with combat experience lead my country than a coward who used to have alcohol/cocaine addictions.

I'm not quite sure I follow your train of thought.

Kerry is the demoncratic candidate. Bush is republican.

They're voting for Kerry last I checked.

I'm thinking that New Yorkers should be the people who care most about the "war on terror". They're the ones who were primarily traumatized on 9-11. The fact that they're not voting for Bush is very telling IMO.


Perhaps they realize that he's failed before, and isn't worthy of their trust? Or as others have said, they BS meters actually work.


My aunt barely escaped from tower 7 on 9/11. She tells me that most New Yorkers think that Bush is a lying, weaseling P.O.S.
 

her209

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Maybe perhaps the majority of NYers think that the war in Iraq was a diversion from the man and organization that attacked them on 9/11, Osama bin Laden. Or maybe perhaps it was because of Bush's not wanting a 9/11 Commission, or perhaps its because Bush doesn't want to adopt all of the 9/11 Commission's recommendations. Take your pick.
 

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NYC is dominated by the angry leftist mob under Bill Clinton's rule. All the educated workers there come from NJ which is now switching away from the Dems thanks to our gay governor and his sins.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
NYC is dominated by the angry leftist mob under Bill Clinton's rule. All the educated workers there come from NJ which is now switching away from the Dems thanks to our gay governor and his sins.

OH STFU.
 

Vic

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Who is better for national security? The US has not won a war with a Republican president since 1898.