NYC to ban trans fat foods from in restaurants

[krunchykrome]

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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

 

[dug777]

Maybe the government should run forced labour camps for fatties instead. They'd have say 6months to shape up or demonstrate that they were shaping up, or they'd have to go and build stuff/work on public asset contruction/make fake designer clothes in sweat shops, all the while getting small amounts of nutritionally balanced gruel. Also, they should beat them if they don't work hard enough.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: dug777
Maybe the government should run forced labour camps for fatties instead. They'd have say 6months to shape up or demonstrate that they were shaping up, or they'd have to go and build stuff/work on public asset contruction/make fake designer clothes in sweat shops, all the while getting small amounts of nutritionally balanced gruel. Also, they should beat them if they don't work hard enough.

Baw hahaha FAT CAMP

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

It's a bit more complicated than that. Evidence is mounting about how terrible trans fats are...borderline toxicity. The important point is that trans fats are not needed in any way, not even for fast food...its just a matter of convenience and cost. And especially at restaurants, it's not so easy to know whats going into your food. It's somewhat similar to using asbestos as a flame retardent. Saying "just don't inhale it" isn't exactly the solution.

Banning trans fats != banning fast food. Just forcing them to not completely kill us in the process, kind of like taking the lead out of paint.

 

[0roo0roo]

good, there was an article in the economist about how there are different transfat levels in fast food of the same brand in different countries..even different states. its not necessary at all.

 

[MrChad]

Ugh, heavy-handed laws like this one are some of the reasons I hate living in NYC.

EDIT: And to the OP, at this point the ban has just been proposed, not yet implemented, so your thread title is misleading.

 

[Amused]

And we must all remember that the food police PUSHED for the substituting of trans fats for saturated fats in the 70s and 80s ignorantly believing they were better for you. We were all told how much healthier margarine was than butter.

The leftist, elitist, "Center for Science in the Public Interest" food police group was the front runner in this and advocated the use of trans fats in place of saturated fats and was a main reason for the switch to trans fats in fast foods in the early 80s. They kept up this campaign as late as 1988, the same year evidence was becoming solid that trans fats could be the cause of a huge increase in coronary heart disease.

And when I say pushed, I mean lobbied hard. This is the main reason so many foods have trans fats in them today.

Yet another case of the elitists screwing up, then blaming everyone else for their mistakes.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

What? Because people shouldn't eat fast food every day, you think it should have an unnecessary and very unhealthy component? By your logic, they should go back to putting cocaine in Coca Cola because you shouldn't drink that much to begin with... or that gasoline should have lead because everyone should drive hybrids anyway.
It's not even about fast food, but about everything that contains transfat, which a lot of food. In none of those foods is transfat a necessary ingredient.

Fvck the food manufacturers... if the ban passes and they want to keep their NYC market, they'll replace transfat with unsaturated fat, and no one loses.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

What? Because people shouldn't eat fast food every day, you think it should have an unnecessary and very unhealthy component? By your logic, they should go back to putting cocaine in Coca Cola because you shouldn't drink that much to begin with... or that gasoline should have lead because everyone should drive hybrids anyway.

Fvck the food manufacturers... if the ban passes and they want to keep their NYC market, they'll replace transfat with unsaturated fat, and no one loses.

Trans fat is not replaceable with unsaturated fat. Trans fat is/was a replacement for saturated fat and was pushed on food sellers by the very food police who want to ban it today.

Most trans fats come from food manufacturers using margarine in place of butter.

So no, don't "fsck the food manufacturers." Fsck the food police who pushed for this crap in the first place.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Amused
And we must all remember that the food police PUSHED for the substituting of trans fats for saturated fats in the 70s and 80s ignorantly believing they were better for you. We were all told how much healthier margarine was than butter.

The leftist, elitist, "Center for Science in the Public Interest" food police group was the front runner in this and advocated the use of trans fats in place of saturated fats and was a main reason for the switch to trans fats in fast foods in the early 80s. They kept up this campaign as late as 1988, the same year evidence was becoming solid that trans fats could be the cause of a huge increase in coronary heart disease.

And when I say pushed, I mean lobbied hard. This is the main reason so many foods have trans fats in them today.

Yet another case of the elitists screwing up, then blaming everyone else for their mistakes.

the elitists?
*looks at Amused's usertitle*

:laugh:

 

[DaShen]

Trans fat is exactly the same as processed hydrogenated oil/fat.

Saturated fat is usually natural animal fat/oil (they can be plant fats as well, but rarer)
Unsaturated fat is usually natural plant fat/oil

Trans fat is usually plant fat/oil which is cheaper than animal fat to get, hydrogenated (adding hydrogen compound to mimic the animal fat compound), and then processed to make into things like margerine. It is a cheap substitute for the real thing and is more harmful than animal fats.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

they are "mulling" over the idea. it's just in the proposal stage, so your title is misleading.
imho, i doubt it will fly.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

the elitists?
*looks at Amused's usertitle*

:laugh:

<^>

 

[DaShen]

BTW, FYI

unsaturated fats (plant fats/oils) tend to be liquid at room temperature
saturated fats (animal fats/oils) tend to be more solid at room temperature (they also contain more "energy" but because they solidify easier, they plaque easier too <heart disease> )

trans-fats (hydrogenated plant fats) mimic saturated fats, but are harder to process in the body and they plaque much easier than both.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

they are "mulling" over the idea. it's just in the proposal stage, so your title is misleading.
imho, i doubt it will fly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/27/nyreg...26621c6a5be0d&ei=5094&partner=homepage

BTW it passed. Just like the smoking ban in NY

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
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Dont get me wrong, I love fast food, and if I could, I'd eat it everyday. I don't however; why? Because I know it's horrible for my health. It's really sad that the government has to intervene with the general American public's health. People can't keep their fat a$$es away from fast food, forcing the government to step in with force and take it away from them. It's sad that all of these citizens we have, professionals, educated, and like, dont have the common sense to know whats bad for them and whats not. Now, Im no angel. I smoked for three years, and I do occassionally have fast food. But the key word is occassionally, because I have the common sense to consciencely monitor the amount of bad food Im putting in my body.

they are "mulling" over the idea. it's just in the proposal stage, so your title is misleading.
imho, i doubt it will fly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/27/nyreg...26621c6a5be0d&ei=5094&partner=homepage

BTW it passed. Just like the smoking ban in NY

Did you read the article you posted?
It hasn't exactly passed yet.

The board, which is authorized to adopt the plan without the consent of any other agency, did not take that step yesterday, but it set in motion a period for written public comments, leading up a public hearing on Oct. 30 and a final vote in December.

 

[Vic]

One of my favorite things about the media and public responses in America is the phenomenon that everything happens to someone else. None of you here are fat, none of you here ever eat fast food with trans fats in them. You're all perfect like the congregation in church on Sunday singing Hallelujah! while the preacher condemns the debauchery that takes place the rest of the week.