NYC Left Forum of USA event: "Obama becoming puppet of Wall St Oligarchs"

[Abwx]

the right just wants to be left alone.

True..
They have the wealth, and doesn t want people to question it...

 

[Abwx]

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[Steeplerot]

You're confusing "defending themselves" with "laughing at progressives playing their one tired, ineffectual card one more time".

It's transparent to everyone but you guys. Sure we have problems with the occasional d-bag playing the race card. But like anything else you guys use isolated cases here and there shouted from conservative media to rationalize your own agendas in your head through twisted logic. I am sure you guys laugh now after all these years of brainwashing each other into being racists. But "its ok" now. You guys have told one another its all in everyone elses head. This is sociopathic tenancy people bitch about Conservatives for. Like I said, people who are not racist generally tend to not have that label thrown at them for good reason.

If you are in a situation finding multiple people pointing out that you smell, even if your close family says you dont you may still want to double check as you may not be getting the real story from those you trust. Just sayin'.

 

[chucky2]

Calling someone a bleeding heart is a Conservative term to deride Irish and Italian American Catholics for not being Protestant/Baptist "white" Christians as they were considered the immigrant dregs of society from you haters until recently. (like Catholic Mexicans nowadays) You might as well call someone a beloved patriot, greasy Italian or N****er. But then I realize you are a bit "American History" challenged. So I edited it as from your posting history you are not bright enough to know wtf you say usually anyhow.

Interesting if accurate. But, around here, Chicago area, and well, basically anywhere I've ever seen it used, including online, Bleeding Heart means someone who will perpetually find a cause to continually b1tch about, someone who is never satisfied until literally every wrong in the entire world has been righted, someone who has a sob story for every woe is me person and needs to have it mended, etc. etc.

I have no problem calling you a beloved patriot, wop, dago, mic, n1gger, whatever you'd like. If the shoe fits in the situation and context those terms mean today, then the shoe fits.

Sorry I'm not all up on the Bleeding Heart terminology as you, obviously you're an expert on it... :thumbsup:

Chuck

 

[Steeplerot]

Bleeding Heart means someone who will perpetually find a cause to continually b1tch about, someone who is never satisfied until literally every wrong in the entire world has been righted, someone who has a sob story for every woe is me person and needs to have it mended, etc. etc.

This is exactly the same attitude conservatism STILL shows to the poor. "Welfare blacks never have enough/on the take why cant they just stfu and stop being so uppity! Always complaining! Why cant people be happy that they are not slaves anymore and figure their own shit out and leave us whites alone!?"

Just another rationalization for racists to feel they are getting shafted and take it out on the "weaker" class. It's mental masturbation for those who feel left out in a society through social isolation and think climbing up on everyone else business is how to make themselves feel better.

 

[Steeplerot]

I have no problem calling you a beloved patriot, wop, dago, mic, n1gger, whatever you'd like.

Don't expect a rational person to take you serious then if thats how you relate to culture.

All you are doing is screwing yourself by mentally pulling your chair up to the kids table while the adults eat.

 

[werepossum]

Calling someone a bleeding heart is a Conservative term to deride Irish and Italian American Catholics for not being Protestant/Baptist "white" Christians as they were considered the immigrant dregs of society from you haters until recently. (like Catholic Mexicans nowadays) You might as well call someone a beloved patriot, greasy Italian or N****er. But then I realize you are a bit "American History" challenged. So I edited it as from your posting history you are not bright enough to know wtf you say usually anyhow.

I've never heard anything like that. Considering that the term goes back at least to Shakespeare, it's hard for me to see how it could be considered American history even if true. But then, it's long been apparent to me that a completely different version of American history is taught out of little red books.

 

[Steeplerot]

I've never heard anything like that.

That was directed at Chucky really. You did not call me Bleeding Heart. I can respect the fact that you try to discuss issues mostly instead of going NYAH NYAH U STOOPID because someone happens to say something not in line with mainstream corporate infotainment crap. Usually.

 

[werepossum]

It's transparent to everyone but you guys. Sure we have problems with the occasional d-bag playing the race card. But like anything else you guys use isolated cases here and there shouted from conservative media to rationalize your own agendas in your head through twisted logic. I am sure you guys laugh now after all these years of brainwashing each other into being racists. But "its ok" now. You guys have told one another its all in everyone elses head. This is sociopathic tenancy people bitch about Conservatives for. Like I said, people who are not racist generally tend to not have that label thrown at them for good reason.

If you are in a situation finding multiple people pointing out that you smell, even if your close family says you dont you may still want to double check as you may not be getting the real story from those you trust. Just sayin'.

But no one has ever accused me in real life of being racist, although I have been called the polar opposite, ni**er lover, simply for insisting on basic equity. Yet when I am online, a huge portion of the left automatically labels me as racist if I don't toe the party line on Obama, illegal immigration, wealth redistribution . . .

That was directed at Chucky really. You did not call me Bleeding Heart. I can respect the fact that you try to discuss issues mostly instead of going NYAH NYAH U STOOPID because someone happens to say something not in line with mainstream corporate infotainment crap. Usually.

Well, I do try, although admittedly I don't always succeed. It helps that I post with my real name and city/state so anything I say can be tied back to me and is therefore not anything I wouldn't say in real life. (Although thankfully there are fewer people online offering to whip my ass for saying it.)

 

[Steeplerot]

I know I give you Cons a hard time and am not a exactly a bi-partisan sort but most of you guys are alright. One thing years of forum writing has taught me is most of the bullshit racism is just idiots showing off.

 

[Zebo]

You're confusing "defending themselves" with "laughing at progressives playing their one tired, ineffectual card one more time". Even in your defense of playing the race card, you play the race card; it's literally your only play.

Conservatives do not consider ourselves to be victims; that would be the left which has adopted perpetual victimhood with a large side of entitlement. The left are the ones always claiming to be victims entitled to receive compensation; the right just wants to be left alone.

LOL

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/matt-taibbi-the-crying-shame-of-john-boehner-20110105

What they say and really do is vastly different.

 

[manimal]

the thread title is probably true about every president since Johnson...


except maybe the peanut man..

 

[Zebo]

Becoming? lol...

Its to late for that sort of optimism. The hapless left it seems will never stop lying to themselves that Obama has betrayed them. Now if we could only get blacks to stop crying about not getting some sort of special deal from the president. If anything blacks should be thanking Obama for that the fact that a black man can sellout just as well as a white man. The corporate masters should show much favor to future blacks as they're added to the arsenal of 'shilldom'. The Great Shill Saint Reagan is surely rolling over in his grave!

Power corrupts.... Blacks did most the worst crimes on plantations and Black Police in South African bantustans under Apartheid. Reminds me a lot of Republicans I know who forget where they came from and opportunities that got them there. My dad is so right wing as in all public education should be abolished etc while he went to UCLA a public school to get his MBA back when it was basically FREE. In the 1960s (he was an immigrant too and we all know what they think about immigrants going to our schools)

 

[chucky2]

This is exactly the same attitude conservatism STILL shows to the poor. "Welfare blacks never have enough/on the take why cant they just stfu and stop being so uppity! Always complaining! Why cant people be happy that they are not slaves anymore and figure their own shit out and leave us whites alone!?"

Just another rationalization for racists to feel they are getting shafted and take it out on the "weaker" class. It's mental masturbation for those who feel left out in a society through social isolation and think climbing up on everyone else business is how to make themselves feel better.

Still playing the race card huh? Does it get worn out, or do you just open a new deck of the same when it gets tattered?

Don't expect a rational person to take you serious then if thats how you relate to culture.

All you are doing is screwing yourself by mentally pulling your chair up to the kids table while the adults eat.

It's not 'relating to culture' at all. I have zero problems with other cultures, I live surrounded by them and work with them every day. That's not the problem. You want to bring a sob story to every issue, and be a Bleeding Heart, you're going to get labeled as one. You obviously aren't reading all my posts in this thread, because I already posted in response to eski', and I don't think my stated desire screams Kill All Brown People.

We simply want different things:

I want a secure US border, with control of who's coming in (out I could give two F's about) and why. The problems they're having in their country - your endless sob stories - are exactly that: Their problems, in their country. Not ours.

You want an open border and to let Everyone that can get here in - that's obvious in your posts. Anyone who wants anything contrary to that, who doesn't share your version of White Guilt and/or Bleeding Heartism, is a racist xenophobe non-white Hater.

No need to get all uppity as you say....we have different opinions, we can all see that. I'm a cut to the chase/rational type of guy, you're wailing and screaming that every Brown Person in the world isn't here and Whitey isn't prostrating theirselves in front of them for not getting them here soon enough.

It's cool, this is America, you can self hate - just look at the Mooner... :whiste:

Chuck

 

[Zebo]

What's ironic is open borders hurts non whites most. Their are studies on this about non white natives (blacks, 3rd generation Mexicans etc) being displaced in job market by illegals. White business owners love it. Cheap labor. Keep them fighting over race and piddly stuff. None of my friends who own businesses have any problems whatsoever with illegals. Hell just read Chamber of Commerce news letters. Real Republicans (guys writing the $2000+ checks) love it

 

[werepossum]

LOL

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/matt-taibbi-the-crying-shame-of-john-boehner-20110105

What they say and really do is vastly different.

Point. Far too many conservatives want to be left alone whilst forcing everyone else to be just like them.