NY screws up handling Vicodin etc, urges rest of nation to do the same.

[Hayabusa Rider]

People are going to be so pissed come Feb 23.

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/New-limits-on-addictive-pain-pill-4237621.php

Better ways to have done things, but that's never been a concern for Lord Cuomo and his court.

 

[Bowfinger]

How so? I'm largely ignorant on this issue. Educate us, or at least me. What's wrong with controlling it more tightly and what do you think would be a better approach?

 

[Genx87]

How so? I'm largely ignorant on this issue. Educate us, or at least me. What's wrong with controlling it more tightly and what do you think would be a better approach?

People will have a harder time getting pain killers for legitimate use. All because there were 703 reported cases of abuse out of thousands.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

How so? I'm largely ignorant on this issue. Educate us, or at least me. What's wrong with controlling it more tightly and what do you think would be a better approach?

It's an easy fix. All NY official prescriptions are barcoded and scanned. Controlled substances are added to a database so prescribers and LEO can see if there is abuse. Just add pharmacies and have the software check before dispensing. Now we're stuck with onerous additional regs, create difficulties for legitimate patients and do nothing practically except to prevent refills being given.

 

[BoberFett]

Oh teh noes!!!!1!!!1 Drugs!!!!!!!!

We must stop people from doing things to their own bodies!!!!!!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm glad all I need is Tramadol for my pain and use less than my Doctor prescribes for a 30 day supply.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm glad all I need is Tramadol for my pain and use less than my Doctor prescribes for a 30 day supply.

Thats also going controlled on NY.

 

[Bowfinger]

It's an easy fix. All NY official prescriptions are barcoded and scanned. Controlled substances are added to a database so prescribers and LEO can see if there is abuse. Just add pharmacies and have the software check before dispensing. Now we're stuck with onerous additional regs, create difficulties for legitimate patients and do nothing practically except to prevent refills being given.

So are people abusing it by getting multiple prescriptions, something pharmacies cannot detect since they don't have access to share data?

 

[IBMer]

A lot of legitimate use isn't. I am glad they are making it harder. My father has a hard time filling them here and in am glad because I know for a fact he doesn't need all he gets. He just is an addict and knows exactly what to tell the doctors in order ton get the prescriptions.

The real issue is doctors have no real way to test pain, so they will always have to rely on if they believe the patient or not. Its easy to know there is an issue when we as a country consume 80 percent of the pain medication while only having 4.6 percent of the population.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Thats also going controlled on NY.

It's not a scheduled drug in Texas at this time.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So are people abusing it by getting multiple prescriptions, something pharmacies cannot detect since they don't have access to share data?

Correct. We've been asking for that ability for a decade. The state says they'd think about it, which means it wasn't important. This is their solution.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

FDA is likely going to be classing hydrocodone as schedule 2. Their recommendations board already approved it and the recommendations are almost always upheld. That's worse than anything NY is doing.

 

[IBMer]

I would really like to see the effects these prescriptions have on insurance premiums. 500-1000 dollars in medication a month while paying a fraction of that in premiums has to be causing costs to go up for the rest of us.

 

[xj0hnx]

"Scientifically, it's pretty open and shut. Hydrocodone is more potent than morphine, yet it's more accessible. That's never made much sense to a lot of us in the pain management world."

This is so disingenuous. Maybe mg to mg it is, but considering hydrocodone is maxed at 10mg and mixed with APAP, while Morphine is available up to 200mg ER, that just made me laugh. New York is the new joke of the United States, good for Cali I guess.

 

[xj0hnx]

FDA is likely going to be classing hydrocodone as schedule 2. Their recommendations board already approved it and the recommendations are almost always upheld. That's worse than anything NY is doing.

Yea, but it isn't because of any medical reason, just like the rest of the retarded scheduling, it's for social reasons. The DEA, and their schedule need to be abolished.

 

[Darwin333]

A lot of legitimate use isn't. I am glad they are making it harder. My father has a hard time filling them here and in am glad because I know for a fact he doesn't need all he gets. He just is an addict and knows exactly what to tell the doctors in order ton get the prescriptions.

The real issue is doctors have no real way to test pain, so they will always have to rely on if they believe the patient or not. Its easy to know there is an issue when we as a country consume 80 percent of the pain medication while only having 4.6 percent of the population.

Yeah but most other countries that I have visited don't require a doctors visit if you are in a bit more pain than tylenol will help. They sell codeine over the counter most places I have gone.

 

[xj0hnx]

A lot of legitimate use isn't. I am glad they are making it harder. My father has a hard time filling them here and in am glad because I know for a fact he doesn't need all he gets. He just is an addict and knows exactly what to tell the doctors in order ton get the prescriptions.

The real issue is doctors have no real way to test pain, so they will always have to rely on if they believe the patient or not. Its easy to know there is an issue when we as a country consume 80 percent of the pain medication while only having 4.6 percent of the population.

Yea, that's how we should do it, because YOUR father can't control himself, fuck over millions of other people, great idea.

 

[Darwin333]

FDA is likely going to be classing hydrocodone as schedule 2. Their recommendations board already approved it and the recommendations are almost always upheld. That's worse than anything NY is doing.

seriously??? Hydrocodone in pills under 10mg??? Jesus christ that will be a pain in the ass for a lot of people and will likely do nothing to curb the drug problem.

 

[xj0hnx]

seriously??? Hydrocodone in pills under 10mg??? Jesus christ that will be a pain in the ass for a lot of people and will likely do nothing to curb the drug problem.

It won't do anything at all, oh, except drive even more people to illegal drugs. /.govgolfclap

 

[Jaskalas]

The war on prescription drugs is harming those with chronic pain, who are in so much pain that they have trouble getting a good night's sleep. This war is leading to sleep deprivation in some people, which in turn would reduce health and shorten life spans.

 

[Heller]

dont matter to me , vicodins for pussys anyway, go get some roxis (blues) and some opanas(yellows) with a fentyl patch with some xanax(bars) and somas(whites) ,now that's a cocktail.



I am fucking kidding.

 

[waggy]

A lot of legitimate use isn't. I am glad they are making it harder. My father has a hard time filling them here and in am glad because I know for a fact he doesn't need all he gets. He just is an addict and knows exactly what to tell the doctors in order ton get the prescriptions.

The real issue is doctors have no real way to test pain, so they will always have to rely on if they believe the patient or not. Its easy to know there is an issue when we as a country consume 80 percent of the pain medication while only having 4.6 percent of the population.

because your father is a shithead you want to fuck over people that really need it?

threads like this annoy me. poeple have no clue what someone with chronic pain go through yet will say they don't need the meds or they don't need that much.

who are you to say?

all laws like this are going to do is stop people who need them from getting them. IF you think this is going to stop a lowelife loser like his father from finding something you are insane.

 

[chucky2]

Hydrocodone didn't do shit for me when I had my kidney stone (Advil worked better), did nothing for my bud when he had his knee surgery, and did nothing for my dad when he had his (unknown to use at the time) intestinal blockage.

I can't believe they're that worried about people abusing it...

 

[waggy]

Hydrocodone didn't do shit for me when I had my kidney stone (Advil worked better), did nothing for my bud when he had his knee surgery, and did nothing for my dad when he had his (unknown to use at the time) intestinal blockage.

I can't believe they're that worried about people abusing it...

because you guys were useing it correctly. those that abuse it don't just pop it with a drink of water. while i do not know the method i know it makes it worse on you when you do it.

 

[chucky2]

I don't know...I doubled my dose and it still did nothing. Maybe at some point pain just cuts through anything...